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20 January 2012, 12:45 PM
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Unmolested GMT model 1675
While there seems to be much discussion here and on other forums lately regarding unpolished vs polished vintage watches, and while opinions vary on whether the old, worn-out watches that have been left unmolested thru the years deserve a decent restoration, I present a 1971 GMT that I recently acquired. This is a one-owner watch that was purchased while the owner was in the military during the early 1970's. What peeked my interest with this GMT was that the watch was described as all original, never serviced and keeping "decent" time. I had some photos emailed to me, and it appeared as described, albeit worn but not abused, so a deal was struck with seller and the watch arrived here in Dallas a couple of weeks ago.
My initial observations of the GMT, after removing the bezel, was that it was very soiled and appeared that it had never been serviced or polished. While it did have some scratches here and there, the chamfers on the lugs were all there, and it wore the original band, crystal, bezel insert dial and hands. The dial had a slight patina and the hands did as well - almost matching the dial patina. While the hands look much whiter in some of the pics below, they are original and are not as white as they appear. Today I brought the watch to Chamosa Watch Repair and had it examined by Manny. Manny confirmed my suspicions and stated that the watch appeared to be an untouched, 100% original GMT! As we opened the back of the watch, he was amazed at how clean the movement was but said that the oils appeared to be drying up around the jewels. I explained to Manny that I have been wearing the watch for over a week now and it is running about 3 seconds off per day. After conferring with Manny further, I decided to leave the watch and have the movement serviced due to most of the oils being dried up. Below are some before and after pics of the watch after a little cleaning and polishing the crystal.
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20 January 2012, 12:50 PM
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That is spectacular.
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20 January 2012, 12:57 PM
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I want one!
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20 January 2012, 01:00 PM
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Dream come true! Great score.
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20 January 2012, 01:09 PM
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That is, truly, my grail story! Congratulations! I'm envious!
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20 January 2012, 01:18 PM
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Oh John what a magnificent find. I'm almost envious!
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20 January 2012, 01:32 PM
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When I wrote the "Fork In The Road" thread, it was watches like this and the one that Jed referred to in his thread that I had in mind. You are lucky to have had this watch find you. Congrats.
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20 January 2012, 02:24 PM
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looks great after some light cleaning.
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20 January 2012, 02:35 PM
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Thats a marvelous example, enjoy to the full that one !
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20 January 2012, 05:04 PM
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...looking good Johnny...
...good job...!
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20 January 2012, 06:55 PM
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belter !!!!
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20 January 2012, 07:57 PM
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Lucky you to have found such a preserved example! Enjoy it!
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20 January 2012, 08:03 PM
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How did you get the crystal so good? Just cool
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20 January 2012, 08:21 PM
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Congrats, a worthy barn find!
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20 January 2012, 08:57 PM
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Now there's a watch! Nice one John.
I love the original condition, and that insert is to die for. It's so nice to see these original pieces, in unmolested shape. Keep her just the way she is. Congrats. |
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20 January 2012, 09:32 PM
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Great watch and very motivating story. It's nice to see that they are out there if you know what to look for and you are actively looking! Thank you.
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20 January 2012, 10:14 PM
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Very nice, it's amazing how much better it looks after a little bit of cleaning.
From your pictures the movement looks outstanding considering it has never been serviced.
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20 January 2012, 10:41 PM
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John, that watch is
 . I hope that one day I come across something similar. I'm in no hurry. Interesting provenance and great before and after shots. Congratulation on your find. |
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20 January 2012, 10:51 PM
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she enjoyed the TLC...great watch !!!
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20 January 2012, 11:00 PM
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Wow, that is quite something.
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20 January 2012, 11:29 PM
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very very cool! great find mate!
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20 January 2012, 11:59 PM
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dP
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21 January 2012, 12:25 AM
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I was waiting for this post!
Excellent!! |
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21 January 2012, 12:31 AM
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Great find! Looks amazing, congrats!
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21 January 2012, 01:40 AM
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Super !!!!!!
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21 January 2012, 01:55 AM
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Err Buddy Springer...that's a spectacular specimen of 1675 GMT Mk.2...
Simply stunning example of an unabused...unspoiled... unmolested as you may pleased to use these words... n undoubtedly for Orchi.. it was worn n used in fair wear n tear conditions... from factory conditions...since! Here are just a few of close siblings examples...                          n there are...MORE of these that come with... Orchi's preference of buying...collecting...flipping...trading n selling... Unabused....Unmolested...Unspoiled n Undoubtedly... NEVER been re-polished or rebuffed...or reconditioned... or restored...which were worn or used in fair wear n tear conditions... since factory watches... Don't ever listen to The so called Expert(s) who would otherwise... lead others to believe blindly that there aren't any of such Original watch... worn n used since from factory piece...or NOS piece...or ONE owner piece... that had never been either re-polished...or rebuffed or reconditioned... or restored...or serviced. Just because THE ones have never bought or owned or dealt with... such nice watches before in their lifetime... certainly does NOT equate to...there aren't any such watches elsewhere... whilst in actual fact there are such nicer watches around... contrary to THE Expert(s) sole narrow minded n inexperienced opinion...   Orchi read recently in here n the other forum... with utter disbelief that such Expert(s) could have... cast doubts to the existence of any of these nicer original watches... used n worn since factory...   How did they ever get to think like they do... in the 1st place... is far beyond...for the life of Orchi... 
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21 January 2012, 02:21 AM
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Nice find.
I don't care much for polished or unpolished, it mainly caters for so-called collectors. As far as I'm concerned, Its your watch so you look after it how you see fit and what makes you happy. Yours looks stunning. I've added an image of a couple of my GMTs for a GMT group hug!!! HAGW. |
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21 January 2012, 02:49 AM
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Spunga, Orchi and some of the other comments here share my sentiments also. I have many Rolexes in the collection that have been polished and serviced. I then have four other Rolexes that are untouched originals. I do not have a preference for either, although it is nice to find an untouched original "barn find" every now-and then. Like Orchi commented, the untouched originals are out there, but not everywhere.
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21 January 2012, 03:22 AM
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Great find and story John. Thanks for sharing!
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