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Old 21 August 2012, 09:41 PM   #1
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Vintage Rolex 5513 check

Hi, I would like to check if this rolex 5513 authentic?

the dial, hands and insert.

I cant find any guide on the net.

thanks for looking.



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Old 22 August 2012, 05:17 AM   #2
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Look ok but you may want to look into these as i cant tell from the pictures
1 case look a bit thin
2 bezel maybe replaced, the pearl look new and thin font
3 possibly markers and hands tritium reapplied
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Old 22 August 2012, 11:04 AM   #3
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Do you know the serial number? Insert looks to be shaved to fit.
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Old 22 August 2012, 11:54 AM   #4
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1.5m serial...the lug seem good to me..but is it too thin?
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Old 22 August 2012, 09:30 PM   #5
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...two sub cases ( never polished ) for comparison.



HRP seems to be right about the insert !!

( the 5513 is 1983 mod )
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Old 23 August 2012, 01:55 AM   #6
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Shouldn't a 1.5m serial have a gilt dial?
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Old 23 August 2012, 06:18 AM   #7
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...two sub cases ( never polished ) for comparison.



HRP seems to be right about the insert !!

( the 5513 is 1983 mod )
Thank you. This side by side photograph is very helpful.
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Old 23 August 2012, 06:59 PM   #8
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1.5 m/ correct for m/f . Looks ok ,
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Old 23 August 2012, 07:43 PM   #9
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Shouldn't a 1.5m serial have a gilt dial?
Edit: At VRF dial section both matte and gilt are shown so might be correct.
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Old 23 August 2012, 08:01 PM   #10
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1.5 m/ correct for m/f . Looks ok ,
what is m/f?
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Old 23 August 2012, 09:43 PM   #11
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m is meter ,f is feet n it's short form for meter first.
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Old 23 August 2012, 09:55 PM   #12
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I don't propose that I'm an authority in any way, shape or form but the insert looks to have been cut down. The 10 and the 50 are missing most or all of the black present across the tops of the other numbers. I defer to the experts for more clarity on this.
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Old 24 August 2012, 01:09 AM   #13
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Judging from the crown guards, I think the case may be fake! Also, I've owned 2 5513 MF's and I'm not liking that dial. I'd walk away from this one!!!!!
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Old 24 August 2012, 01:43 AM   #14
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Post a pic of the serial and ref engraving and we can have a better look at the E to see whether the middle stroke of the E is a long or short stroke. If the middle stroke of the E is the same length or longer than the top and bottom strokes, them your case is a fakeee!!!
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Old 24 August 2012, 04:27 AM   #15
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My 2p's worth... dial itself looks OK from the pics i.e. font/printing etc, but it may well have had a relume, would need clearer images to be sure. Case looks OK too, the insert 'thing' could well be that the fit in the bezel is not good (aftermarket bezel?) and the outer edge of the insert is sitting below the inner edge of the bezel, therefore from some angles partially hidden from view, giving impression if being filed/cut down. Pearl is obviously lumi, can't comment on anything else, really need better images.
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Old 21 September 2012, 12:41 AM   #16
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Take it to the Rolex Service Center (RSC) and ask them to check if the watch needs maintenance. They usually take it in and do their test and will tell u if it needs maintenance, etc.

If it was fake, they will tell you: SORRY WE DONT DEAL WITH FAKE ROLEX WATCHES!

This tactic always works to get a real authentic opinion.
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Old 21 September 2012, 01:57 AM   #17
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Take it to the Rolex Service Center (RSC) and ask them to check if the watch needs maintenance. They usually take it in and do their test and will tell u if it needs maintenance, etc.

If it was fake, they will tell you: SORRY WE DONT DEAL WITH FAKE ROLEX WATCHES!

This tactic always works to get a real authentic opinion.
Don't bother. The watch is real, and RSC doesn't have a clue about "originality" in vintage watches. I wouldn't let them shine my shoes.

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Old 21 September 2012, 02:32 AM   #18
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The dial is good, the case should be examined further as another poster mentioned...Looks authentic IMO.

The hands are either getting ready to lose their lume or they have been "sealed"...IMO

The bezel AND insert are aftermarket.
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Old 21 September 2012, 08:43 AM   #19
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Pics are grainy, dial is fine, and I will would prefer to not comment on the case until some better case pics are provided.
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Old 24 September 2012, 05:27 PM   #20
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1.5 m/ correct for m/f . Looks ok ,
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