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SpunkyQ8 · 13 January 2013, 06:07 AM

Hey guys,

I've been lurking around for some time and currently set my mind to finaly hit the buck with either the nautilus 5980 black dial or the ap legacy
I am open to hear your thoughts on these two watches specially in terms of value retaining.

Bear in mind i am an owner of an e serial ROO

Thank u in advance

brian8121 · 13 January 2013, 06:17 AM

I don't think any brand outside of Rolex retains value like Patek. AP does ok, but Patek and Rolex are on another level when it comes to value retention.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpunkyQ8

Hey guys,

I've been lurking around for some time and currently set my mind to finaly hit the buck with either the nautilus 5980 black dial or the ap legacy
I am open to hear your thoughts on these two watches specially in terms of value retaining.

Bear in mind i am an owner of an e serial ROO

Thank u in advance

h999r · 13 January 2013, 07:15 AM

If you have a big wrist ill go with AP. if smaller then Patek. Both are superb watches.

Le Chef · 13 January 2013, 08:48 AM

If you're worried about value retention, buy a used version of whatever you like most.

travisb · 13 January 2013, 10:03 AM

I love AP, but of your 2 options I'd go 5980.

kilyung · 13 January 2013, 12:09 PM

Based on size, I'd pick 5980.

iLLGT2 · 13 January 2013, 01:10 PM

Legacy for me ! 5712 Patek for me :)

Submarino · 13 January 2013, 02:27 PM

Legacy all the way.

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SpunkyQ8 · 13 January 2013, 05:00 PM

I have a 7.5 inch wrist

Quote:

Originally Posted by h999r

If you have a big wrist ill go with AP. if smaller then Patek. Both are superb watches.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le Chef

If you're worried about value retention, buy a used version of whatever you like most.

I am looking into second hand on both options
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Guys have u got any idea whether or not the legacy wears like the o'neal?
I've tried that on and i didnt like it. Felt so bulky, i ask because i see they share similar buckles and case a bit

Viv Savage · 13 January 2013, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian8121

I don't think any brand outside of Rolex retains value like Patek. AP does ok, but Patek and Rolex are on another level when it comes to value retention.

I couldn't agree more.

BawlaDK · 13 January 2013, 10:59 PM

In terms of retaining value I'd say Patek... Based on looks alone.... either one :-)

Submarino · 14 January 2013, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpunkyQ8

I have a 7.5 inch wrist

I am looking into second hand on both options
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Guys have u got any idea whether or not the legacy wears like the o'neal?
I've tried that on and i didnt like it. Felt so bulky, i ask because i see they share similar buckles and case a bit

I've tried one on before and it wears very comfy and and different to the Shaq because of the difference in materials.

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TSW · 14 January 2013, 12:08 AM

As much as i love AP's the 5980 wins of these two!

Sam Philip · 14 January 2013, 12:18 AM

Generally AP ROO's don't hold its initial value well with the exception of very few limited edition pieces. AP Legacy, limited to 1500 pieces worldwide should hold its value well compared to "regular" ROO models.
However I would still get the 5980

psv · 14 January 2013, 12:22 AM

5980 over a Legacy for me.

Stonedcl · 14 January 2013, 12:47 AM

The patek keep going up in price no matter what model where the ap's drop and stay there.. I had a customer that had a pp On and he said he bought 4 from 1990-2000 and everyone went up in value from what he paid at least 33% on the pre-owned side.

orangedial · 14 January 2013, 12:47 AM

Of these 2 choices, I would pick 5980 (with a grey anthracite dial). However, your 7.5" wrist can definitely take on the Legacy well despite its sheer size.

SpunkyQ8 · 14 January 2013, 02:57 AM

Your thoughts are appreciated thanx alot guys

Submarino · 14 January 2013, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Stonedcl

The patek keep going up in price no matter what model where the ap's drop and stay there.. I had a customer that had a pp On and he said he bought 4 from 1990-2000 and everyone went up in value from what he paid at least 33% on the pre-owned side.

I've never seen AP prices drop!!!

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AK797 · 14 January 2013, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psv

5980 over a Legacy for me.

Agree tho I prefer the simpler dials of AP and PP.

Stonedcl · 14 January 2013, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Submarino

I've never seen AP prices drop!!!

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The next watch I want is a 26300 which has the retail price of 22k and I am finding new ones all over for 15k or under for new and a aquanaut which has the same msrp is impossible to find for under 15k even a pre-owned one.. I have a ap that cost 13k new in 2003 and bought it for 6500.. In 2003 a aquanaut was prob around 13k also and you will NEVER find one for under 7k

ticketmaster123 · 14 January 2013, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Stonedcl

The next watch I want is a 26300 which has the retail price of 22k and I am finding new ones all over for 15k or under for new and a aquanaut which has the same msrp is impossible to find for under 15k even a pre-owned one.. I have a ap that cost 13k new in 2003 and bought it for 6500.. In 2003 a aquanaut was prob around 13k also and you will NEVER find one for under 7k

No one pays RRP though on AP whereas people do for PP

Stonedcl · 14 January 2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ticketmaster123

No one pays RRP though on AP whereas people do for PP

I understand that but even with paying retail for a pp and hold it for 10years then you will make out .. With ap even it will not keep going up like a pp.. And I love ap..

dddrees · 14 January 2013, 12:40 PM

5980 gets my vote as well.

boursachi · 16 January 2013, 07:40 PM

wow! Ahmad, right? it's Ali .. what a small e-world! we need to meet asap
first: what is the ROO in your rotation?

as for your dilemma: 5980 is a very, very special watch imho
it is the kind of watch i would treat myself to to mark a very, very special occasion
i actually looked at PPs when my daughter was born (June 2011) but went with the GPC
i think the 5980 and 5726 both can work as "daily" watches and can go with almost everything .. dressed up or down, and at the end of the day, running in our circles you and i, it will be a VERY personal watch since 1% of people will know what it is

the Legacy is very large to state the obvious, but it also will be worn totally different and if you are anything like me with your watches, it will put you in a different mood and mode

my vote in this particular case is PP

13 January 2013, 06:07 AM	#1
SpunkyQ8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Aj Location: Kuwait Watch: RM,AP,PP,RLX,PAM Posts: 1,056	Acquiring an AP Hey guys, I've been lurking around for some time and currently set my mind to finaly hit the buck with either the nautilus 5980 black dial or the ap legacy I am open to hear your thoughts on these two watches specially in terms of value retaining. Bear in mind i am an owner of an e serial ROO Thank u in advance

13 January 2013, 02:27 PM	#8
Submarino "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Mr. H Location: Dallas Watch: them for me! Posts: 7,180	Legacy all the way. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Watches are the new currency! __________________ WATCHES ARE THE NEW CURRENCY!/ MEMBER 27491/OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED OLD TIMER /AP OWNERS CLUB MEMBER Instagram @watchcollectinglifestyle

14 January 2013, 12:08 AM	#13
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	As much as i love AP's the 5980 wins of these two! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

14 January 2013, 12:40 PM	#24
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,258	5980 gets my vote as well. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

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13 January 2013, 07:15 AM	#3
h999r Banned Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: HR Location: Planet Earth Watch: -ing Barts. Posts: 4,244	If you have a big wrist ill go with AP. if smaller then Patek. Both are superb watches.

13 January 2013, 08:48 AM	#4
Le Chef "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,005	If you're worried about value retention, buy a used version of whatever you like most.

13 January 2013, 10:03 AM	#5
travisb "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,775	I love AP, but of your 2 options I'd go 5980.

13 January 2013, 12:09 PM	#6
kilyung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,946	Based on size, I'd pick 5980.

13 January 2013, 01:10 PM	#7
iLLGT2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Martin Location: NY And FLA Watch: AP ROO Blue Scuba Posts: 2,695	Legacy for me ! 5712 Patek for me :)

13 January 2013, 10:59 PM	#11
BawlaDK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Morten Location: Denmark Watch: 16800 Submariner Posts: 265	In terms of retaining value I'd say Patek... Based on looks alone.... either one :-)

14 January 2013, 12:18 AM	#14
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	Generally AP ROO's don't hold its initial value well with the exception of very few limited edition pieces. AP Legacy, limited to 1500 pieces worldwide should hold its value well compared to "regular" ROO models. However I would still get the 5980

14 January 2013, 12:22 AM	#15
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,077	5980 over a Legacy for me.

14 January 2013, 12:47 AM	#16
Stonedcl "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Nj Watch: 116200, 116610 Posts: 1,191	The patek keep going up in price no matter what model where the ap's drop and stay there.. I had a customer that had a pp On and he said he bought 4 from 1990-2000 and everyone went up in value from what he paid at least 33% on the pre-owned side.

14 January 2013, 12:47 AM	#17
orangedial "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Wayne Location: Singapore Watch: AP, PP, Rolex Posts: 1,791	Of these 2 choices, I would pick 5980 (with a grey anthracite dial). However, your 7.5" wrist can definitely take on the Legacy well despite its sheer size.

14 January 2013, 02:57 AM	#18
SpunkyQ8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Aj Location: Kuwait Watch: RM,AP,PP,RLX,PAM Posts: 1,056	Your thoughts are appreciated thanx alot guys

16 January 2013, 07:40 PM	#25
boursachi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ME Posts: 321	wow! Ahmad, right? it's Ali .. what a small e-world! we need to meet asap first: what is the ROO in your rotation? as for your dilemma: 5980 is a very, very special watch imho it is the kind of watch i would treat myself to to mark a very, very special occasion i actually looked at PPs when my daughter was born (June 2011) but went with the GPC i think the 5980 and 5726 both can work as "daily" watches and can go with almost everything .. dressed up or down, and at the end of the day, running in our circles you and i, it will be a VERY personal watch since 1% of people will know what it is the Legacy is very large to state the obvious, but it also will be worn totally different and if you are anything like me with your watches, it will put you in a different mood and mode my vote in this particular case is PP

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