how to remove bracelets?

[bubi]

hi,
i would like to know exactly what could i buy to remove a 2007 Rolex Datejust bracelet.
Someone advices to use a BERGEON 6111 STRAP REMOVAL TOOL.
What do you think about it?
Thanx in advance

[seantk]

Originally Posted by bubi

hi,
i would like to know exactly what could i buy to remove a 2007 Rolex Datejust bracelet.
Someone advices to use a BERGEON 6111 STRAP REMOVAL TOOL.
What do you think about it?
Thanx in advance

This is the tool that I have and I use it on my Sea Dweller bracelet.

Sean

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Welcome to TRF!

Just be sure to tape up the underside of the lugs with masking tape to avoid stratching them.

Best of luck!

[frostie]

This is a good tool if you are afraid of scratching the lugs

I ordered one from the intrenet the price is 40 euros

[jac67]

Originally Posted by frostie

This is a good tool if you are afraid of scratching the lugs

I ordered one from the intrenet the price is 40 euros

Hello Velitsko

Have you used this yet?

Does it work well on the no lug hole models. I ask this because I have heard that these do not work on Rolex??


John.

[frostie]

Originally Posted by jac67

Hello Velitsko

Have you used this yet?

Does it work well on the no lug hole models. I ask this because I have heard that these do not work on Rolex??


John.

Ι haven't used it yet but the product overview says that it can be used for lugs that range from 16mm - 20mm

A friend of mine has the same tool and he is really satisfied. I am going to receive mine in 5 days if things don't go wrong

In the worst case scenario i have just wasted 40 euros and then i'll try to sell it to some greek members from the greek rolex forum

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Just be a bit careful with this "tweezer" style tool, Velitsko.

I found an old thread of mine (Click here to read it) from where I quote:

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

(...)But I had to have some small "mishaps" corrected before going home with the watches:

[LIST][*]On BOTH watches he had made a small mark on the lugs from when he took off the bracelet. But strangely enough, NOT on the underside of the lugs, but on the OVERside, just on the edge to the SEL!
The marks on both the 6 and 12 o' clock side (right lug, overside) are still faintly visible, even though he satinised the spot. I did some further fine satination with fine sandpaper when I got home and am fairly satisfied with the result now.
The strange thing is that he used a special "tweezer" looking tool to remove the pins of the SEL's, and he was also very surprised himself by seeing the marks left since it was a tool that Rolex issues to AD watch makers.(...)

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

I guess the nack is to make sure the SEL is NOT taken out on the dial side when the pin is released by the tool but on the CASEBACK side, am I right??

Originally Posted by Ironstark

Yes. The best way to do it is to open up the bracelet (pop the springbar in the clasp)
Lay the watch and bracelet dial down on a cloth with the two sides of the bracelet laying flat on either side of the watch head.
Use the "tweezer" tool to disengage the springbar from the case and move the watch head away from the bracelet while resting on the cloth. In that way you have more control and you can`t come out on top of the case lugs and mark them.
To put it back on do the reverse.

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by jac67

Hello Velitsko

Have you used this yet?

Does it work well on the no lug hole models. I ask this because I have heard that these do not work on Rolex??


John.

The Bergeon 6825 works with the small forks (not included) on Rolex.

http://www.watchwallpapers.com/berg.htm

Or you can use the Bergeon watchmaker knife.

http://www.watchwallpapers.com/brrem.htm

Jocke

[frostie]

Thanks a lot for the info Bo

I'll be extra careful when i am going to use it

[dkpw]

Originally Posted by Jocke

Or you can use the Bergeon watchmaker knife.

http://www.watchwallpapers.com/brrem.htm

Jocke

Thanks for that very useful link.

[mickeydainish]

I checked all the links out... gr8 info. Tx guys. :-)

[jac67]

Thank you guys.

Originally Posted by Jocke

Or you can use the Bergeon watchmaker knife.

Yes, I have this, but find it a little awkward to use. As you get one end off and begin on the second, the first seams to pop back in. Eventually, it comes off, but a bit of a hassle.

Originally Posted by Jocke

The Bergeon 6825 works with the small forks (not included) on Rolex.

That looks like an easy way to take off the bracelet.

Where do you get the small forks from?


John.

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by jac67

Thank you guys.

Yes, I have this, but find it a little awkward to use. As you get one end off and begin on the second, the first seams to pop back in. Eventually, it comes off, but a bit of a hassle.
John.

When you have push the springbar in at one side you have to drag a little
at the endlink so the springbar don´t get into the hole again.

Originally Posted by jac67

That looks like an easy way to take off the bracelet.

Where do you get the small forks from?

Bergeon sell them as a option.

Jocke

[jasonbellevue]

Great info guys.

[bubi]

Thank you guys! I always find good advices on this forum!

[Jedi]

Another vote here for the watchmaker knife.

I've used it on Rolex, Patek... no pain so far...

[frostie]

Originally Posted by Jedi

Another vote here for the watchmaker knife.

I've used it on Rolex, Patek... no pain so far...

Is this what you are talking about?

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by frostie

Is this what you are talking about?

This one is the one I use.



Jocke

[frostie]

Originally Posted by Jocke

This one is the one I use.



Jocke

That's a nice one Jocke

I have a similar one but it has a slightly different shape and it's coloured grey. It doesn't have so many toys as yours though

It's much more simpler.

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Originally Posted by Jocke

This one is the one I use.



Jocke

Is the reason for your scratched lugs that you use the corcscrew to remove the endpieces??

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

Is the reason for your scratched lugs that you use the corcscrew to remove the endpieces??

The corcscrew did I use when I change bezel.



Jocke

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Originally Posted by Jocke

The corcscrew did I use when I change bezel.



Jocke

Aha!

So basically, you screwed it up (pun intended)?

You just need to give the bezel a good twist with the corcscrew, and off the bezel goes:

[gigahertz]

Originally Posted by frostie

This is a good tool if you are afraid of scratching the lugs

I ordered one from the intrenet the price is 40 euros

Sorry for digging up an old thread but can someone who knows where this tool is availble from please post the link to it?

It seems like a nice alternative to the Bergeon 6825 which cost $140 and for a occassional user like me that is a lot.


Thanks!!!

[xjeeunitx]

All I use is a very small flat head screw driver, but make sure everything is taped up. It's a bitch to put it back on with only one screw driver but I've done it before without any problems.

[gigahertz]

Originally Posted by xjeeunitx

All I use is a very small flat head screw driver, but make sure everything is taped up. It's a bitch to put it back on with only one screw driver but I've done it before without any problems.

The reason that I want to get this tool is because I hate scratching up the lugs when I try to put the springbars back in.

Like you said I can put tape on the lugs prior to working on the watch but having a tool that pre-compresses the spring bar is such a cleaner way to do this that I wouldn't mind getting a tool specially for it but $144 is a bit much to spend for a hobbist like me.

Oh yean, one time the tape that I used shifted while I was putting the bracelet back on and I ALMOST make a scratch so the tape method is not 100% safe (may be I'm just clumsy).

I found a pair of springbar tweezers by Horotec but getting it home yesterday I discovered that it is too 'fat' to reach into the springbar release 'window' of Rolex bracelets.

And the search continues.....help, anyone?