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Old 15 April 2015, 10:30 AM   #1
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Icon4 Help: is it "ok" for dealer to swap dials?

I finally found a 16570 with the 3186 movement and the letter series I'm looking for, but the dial is in black instead of the white color that I want. When I asked the (reputable) dealer if they had one in white she said, "we can just swap the dials for you."

This will be my first Rolex and I'm new when it comes to buying pre-owned, but it seems kind of sacrilege to change the original dial.

I don't know how I feel about this. What do you guys think? Does it ruin its value/collectibility?
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Old 15 April 2015, 10:44 AM   #2
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Old 15 April 2015, 10:45 AM   #3
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would not really matter to most as long as its authentic and period correct, however, if they are old usa papers it will not match the code numbers on them
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Old 15 April 2015, 11:01 AM   #4
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Dial won't match the records but if you keep both dials, you can switch them out annually. Won't hurt a thing
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Old 15 April 2015, 11:16 AM   #5
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As mentioned for any future valuation the complete set won't match, but it will certainly work. Best of both worlds is to buy the dial and have both.
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Old 15 April 2015, 11:27 AM   #6
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I finally found a 16570 with the 3186 movement and the letter series I'm looking for, but the dial is in black instead of the white color that I want. When I asked the (reputable) dealer if they had one in white she said, "we can just swap the dials for you."

This will be my first Rolex and I'm new when it comes to buying pre-owned, but it seems kind of sacrilege to change the original dial.

I don't know how I feel about this. What do you guys think? Does it ruin its value/collectibility?
sure.

not sure where they're getting the polar dial from but, sure.

as for collectibility, just state what you did with the dial. shouldn't make a difference.

or as mike suggested, get both and rotate yourself. the dial will always be worth something.
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Old 15 April 2015, 11:37 AM   #7
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Yes. This is absolutely fine.

For some of the anal (most likely the minority) folk here, omg, swapping a dial can be blasphemy.

But you are doing this through an AD with authentic parts.

Don't sweat it. Get the watch you want, the way you want.

And then enjoy the hell out if it.
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Old 15 April 2015, 11:44 AM   #8
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The hands will have to be swapped as well, as the white gold hands that come with the black dial watch won't match the black hour markers of the white dial.

Personally, I would hold out for a white dial watch.

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Old 15 April 2015, 11:46 AM   #9
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I would just have both.
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Old 15 April 2015, 12:43 PM   #10
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There are Z and M serials for sale here on the forum now.
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Old 15 April 2015, 12:51 PM   #11
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Grant explained it best. Not worth changing dial and hands since these models are plentiful.

I've had both versions of that watch (but not at same time) and each was fine. But you should look for the one you really want.


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Old 15 April 2015, 12:53 PM   #12
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Just wait till you find the right one.
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Old 15 April 2015, 01:18 PM   #13
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Below is a link to a thread I posted with the same exact dilemma in 2012, it's worth the read.
For what it's worth, I just ended up buying a New Old Stock Polar 16570 from my AD. I lucked out as he had this M serial with 3186 movement.
Good luck and let us know how it works out.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=258013
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Old 15 April 2015, 02:23 PM   #14
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Just buy the extra dial. Knowing that you have the other stored with the box/papers will make you want to swap it out every once in a while, and it may provide enough variety to keep you from wanting another watch. There are a lot of TRF members here that could benefit from doing the same!
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Old 15 April 2015, 09:11 PM   #15
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Sure...it's OK. But if I could find a comparable one here or elsewhere in the color I wanted, I think I would go that route.
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Old 15 April 2015, 09:20 PM   #16
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The hands will have to be swapped as well, as the white gold hands that come with the black dial watch won't match the black hour markers of the white dial.

Personally, I would hold out for a white dial watch.

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Old 16 April 2015, 02:51 PM   #17
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Below is a link to a thread I posted with the same exact dilemma in 2012, it's worth the read.
For what it's worth, I just ended up buying a New Old Stock Polar 16570 from my AD. I lucked out as he had this M serial with 3186 movement.
Good luck and let us know how it works out.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=258013
This read made a big enough impression on me. I don't want headaches to spoil the enjoyment of owning one. Thanks for the post.
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Old 16 April 2015, 02:52 PM   #18
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Thank you to everyone for all the advice. I have decided to pass on it and see if I can get one exactly the way I want it.

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I agree with that direction you're taking.

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