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Dickie Watty · 10 October 2015, 11:05 PM

I am a little paranoid because I got sent a very good fake submariner clasp a while back. I just got this one to use with my RubberB. The link screw I am using to attach to the RubberB did not come with the clasp, it is an authentic Rolex link screw from a Rolex I sold a while back, it doesn't fit flush with the side of the link but this may be normal? Anyone have a mid-2000's Sub care to tell me if the connecting half link on their Sub has link screws that sit flush?
The clasp looks good to me Anyone see a reason to believe it isn't authentic?

cop414 · 10 October 2015, 11:12 PM

Not sure but I always thought that the screw heads were polished or brushed while in place causing them to fit perfectly flush? Not that a replacement screw couldn't be used in a genuine clasp, mine fit flush.

Dickie Watty · 10 October 2015, 11:21 PM

The screw is not from the clasp but is a Rolex screw I had. The clasp was said to be refurbished.

Verdi · 10 October 2015, 11:23 PM

Looks wrong on that rubber band! Are using this combo on a Sub?

Dickie Watty · 10 October 2015, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verdi

Looks wrong on that rubber band!

Ha! I understand......but I like it

Dickie Watty · 11 October 2015, 05:55 AM

If no one thinks it is fake I suppose I will be keeping it.

SLS · 11 October 2015, 06:17 AM

They are supposed to be flush. Is the screw from another link that may have been polished?

Dickie Watty · 11 October 2015, 06:35 AM

Yes, it is a screw from a datejust II I think. One of my previous watches.
Guess I could source a screw somewhere or get one from my AD

SLS · 11 October 2015, 06:40 AM

As long as it's tight, you are fine...unless it bothers you. A bit of loc-tite is also recommended.
Scott

Dickie Watty · 11 October 2015, 06:41 AM

It's tight, but I would prefer it is flush

TimeToGo · 11 October 2015, 07:00 AM

93250s are some of the best faked clasps out there. Anything without the endlinks, you can pretty much count on it being fake. This one is most likely fake... You get what you paid for...

Dickie Watty · 11 October 2015, 07:02 AM

MA would be a 2005 clasp

TimeToGo · 11 October 2015, 07:05 AM

Yes, you are correct. I edited my response from 2011.

Yes, there are also known CL1 codes out there as fakes..

Dickie Watty · 11 October 2015, 07:07 AM

I will take it to my AD then to check. I have 14 days to return. Seller said he would stand behind the authenticity

TimeToGo · 11 October 2015, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dickie Watty

I will take it to my AD then to check. I have 14 days to return. Seller said he would stand behind the authenticity

Sorry, but I can't help it..

Your AD will let you know... Right...

They can't tell their right foot from the left.. Good Luck~

Dickie Watty · 11 October 2015, 07:13 AM

So you say it is fake?

TimeToGo · 11 October 2015, 07:15 AM

May I ask where you got it and what you paid?

Dickie Watty · 11 October 2015, 07:19 AM

eBay seller with thousand of positive transactions, 100% feedback and money back if I don't want it.

TimeToGo · 11 October 2015, 07:23 AM

Ok, that was easy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-SUBMAR...p2047675.l2557

Let me look at this..

TimeToGo · 11 October 2015, 07:30 AM

Here is one (CL1 - found it!) that I have opined in the past..

wwsparts

TimeToGo · 11 October 2015, 07:37 AM

I really do not like the crown on your clasp. If you like, take a better picture of the clasp with the clasp code side. I do not mind saying I am wrong but the likelyhood that is fake, is more likely than not..

Clasps sell for about $200. If you look at the Ebay seller, it appears he sold this clasp twice... Makes you wonder why a second time (a return?!)

Just trying to help....

TimeToGo · 11 October 2015, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Here is one (CL1 - found it!) that I have opined in the past..

wwsparts

Sorry, missed the link..

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=173532

Dickie Watty · 11 October 2015, 08:00 AM

Crown looks real fake on that CL1

Alpino · 11 October 2015, 08:06 AM

.

for most Rolex bracelet there's 2 types (and 2 sizes) of screw, depending if the screw is "traversante (*)" or not (hole or no hole on the link).

(*) I can't find the translation for this french word, sorry.

kirksingleton · 11 October 2015, 08:07 AM

I am not sure if it is real or not, I do like the look of the band clasp setup!

Dickie Watty · 11 October 2015, 10:03 AM

More pics

alexthegreat123 · 11 October 2015, 10:14 AM

Looks fake to me

alexthegreat123 · 11 October 2015, 10:16 AM

Take a look at Rolex clasps, MA11 and 93250 should be punched in lighter than STEELNOX...

Dickie Watty · 11 October 2015, 10:18 AM

Ok, sending it back then.
Thanks

TimeToGo · 11 October 2015, 10:23 AM

Look at the crown of this clasp:

http://www.chrono-shop.net/en/1945-e...ma11-20mm.html

Here is another one on TRF:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=168345

Flat at the bottom as compared to yours.

Also look at the scroll as it come up to the R on Rolex and the X..

10 October 2015, 11:05 PM	#1
Dickie Watty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Virginia Watch: 16600 Posts: 398	Clasp Authentication Please Submariner 2005 I am a little paranoid because I got sent a very good fake submariner clasp a while back. I just got this one to use with my RubberB. The link screw I am using to attach to the RubberB did not come with the clasp, it is an authentic Rolex link screw from a Rolex I sold a while back, it doesn't fit flush with the side of the link but this may be normal? Anyone have a mid-2000's Sub care to tell me if the connecting half link on their Sub has link screws that sit flush? The clasp looks good to me Anyone see a reason to believe it isn't authentic? __________________ Life is too short to wear a crummy watch.

10 October 2015, 11:12 PM	#2
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 72,713	Not sure but I always thought that the screw heads were polished or brushed while in place causing them to fit perfectly flush? Not that a replacement screw couldn't be used in a genuine clasp, mine fit flush. __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

10 October 2015, 11:21 PM	#3
Dickie Watty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Virginia Watch: 16600 Posts: 398	The screw is not from the clasp but is a Rolex screw I had. The clasp was said to be refurbished. __________________ Life is too short to wear a crummy watch.

10 October 2015, 11:23 PM	#4
Verdi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mitch Location: UAE Watch: Big Ben Posts: 2,451	Looks wrong on that rubber band! Are using this combo on a Sub? __________________ IG: @watch_idiot_savant

11 October 2015, 05:55 AM	#6
Dickie Watty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Virginia Watch: 16600 Posts: 398	If no one thinks it is fake I suppose I will be keeping it. __________________ Life is too short to wear a crummy watch.

11 October 2015, 06:17 AM	#7
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	They are supposed to be flush. Is the screw from another link that may have been polished? __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

11 October 2015, 06:35 AM	#8
Dickie Watty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Virginia Watch: 16600 Posts: 398	Yes, it is a screw from a datejust II I think. One of my previous watches. Guess I could source a screw somewhere or get one from my AD __________________ Life is too short to wear a crummy watch.

11 October 2015, 06:40 AM	#9
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	As long as it's tight, you are fine...unless it bothers you. A bit of loc-tite is also recommended. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

11 October 2015, 06:41 AM	#10
Dickie Watty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Virginia Watch: 16600 Posts: 398	It's tight, but I would prefer it is flush __________________ Life is too short to wear a crummy watch.

11 October 2015, 07:00 AM	#11
TimeToGo 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,769	93250s are some of the best faked clasps out there. Anything without the endlinks, you can pretty much count on it being fake. This one is most likely fake... You get what you paid for...

11 October 2015, 07:02 AM	#12
Dickie Watty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Virginia Watch: 16600 Posts: 398	MA would be a 2005 clasp __________________ Life is too short to wear a crummy watch.

11 October 2015, 07:05 AM	#13
TimeToGo 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,769	Yes, you are correct. I edited my response from 2011. Yes, there are also known CL1 codes out there as fakes..

11 October 2015, 07:07 AM	#14
Dickie Watty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Virginia Watch: 16600 Posts: 398	I will take it to my AD then to check. I have 14 days to return. Seller said he would stand behind the authenticity __________________ Life is too short to wear a crummy watch.

11 October 2015, 07:13 AM	#16
Dickie Watty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Virginia Watch: 16600 Posts: 398	So you say it is fake? __________________ Life is too short to wear a crummy watch.

11 October 2015, 07:15 AM	#17
TimeToGo 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,769	May I ask where you got it and what you paid?

11 October 2015, 07:19 AM	#18
Dickie Watty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Virginia Watch: 16600 Posts: 398	eBay seller with thousand of positive transactions, 100% feedback and money back if I don't want it. __________________ Life is too short to wear a crummy watch.

11 October 2015, 07:23 AM	#19
TimeToGo 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,769	Ok, that was easy. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-SUBMAR...p2047675.l2557 Let me look at this..

11 October 2015, 07:30 AM	#20
TimeToGo 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,769	Here is one (CL1 - found it!) that I have opined in the past.. wwsparts

11 October 2015, 07:37 AM	#21
TimeToGo 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,769	I really do not like the crown on your clasp. If you like, take a better picture of the clasp with the clasp code side. I do not mind saying I am wrong but the likelyhood that is fake, is more likely than not.. Clasps sell for about $200. If you look at the Ebay seller, it appears he sold this clasp twice... Makes you wonder why a second time (a return?!) Just trying to help....

11 October 2015, 08:00 AM	#23
Dickie Watty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Virginia Watch: 16600 Posts: 398	Crown looks real fake on that CL1 __________________ Life is too short to wear a crummy watch.

11 October 2015, 08:06 AM	#24
Alpino "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Paris Posts: 2,578	. for most Rolex bracelet there's 2 types (and 2 sizes) of screw, depending if the screw is "traversante ()" or not (hole or no hole on the link). () I can't find the translation for this french word, sorry.

11 October 2015, 08:07 AM	#25
kirksingleton "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,759	I am not sure if it is real or not, I do like the look of the band clasp setup!

11 October 2015, 10:03 AM	#26
Dickie Watty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Virginia Watch: 16600 Posts: 398	More pics __________________ Life is too short to wear a crummy watch.

11 October 2015, 10:14 AM	#27
alexthegreat123 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Alex Location: Cincinnati, OH Watch: GMT 16710 w/ 3186 Posts: 8,451	Looks fake to me __________________ GMT Master II 16710 w/3186 "M" Coke SeaDweller 16600 "M"

11 October 2015, 10:16 AM	#28
alexthegreat123 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Alex Location: Cincinnati, OH Watch: GMT 16710 w/ 3186 Posts: 8,451	Take a look at Rolex clasps, MA11 and 93250 should be punched in lighter than STEELNOX... __________________ GMT Master II 16710 w/3186 "M" Coke SeaDweller 16600 "M"

11 October 2015, 10:18 AM	#29
Dickie Watty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Virginia Watch: 16600 Posts: 398	Ok, sending it back then. Thanks __________________ Life is too short to wear a crummy watch.

11 October 2015, 10:23 AM	#30
TimeToGo 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,769	Look at the crown of this clasp: http://www.chrono-shop.net/en/1945-e...ma11-20mm.html Here is another one on TRF: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=168345 Flat at the bottom as compared to yours. Also look at the scroll as it come up to the R on Rolex and the X..

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