The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Old 6 December 2015, 06:33 AM   #1
tbonesteak
"TRF" Member
 
tbonesteak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: New York
Watch: me go broke!
Posts: 1,657
Submariner Differences

I know this sounds stupid to some, but I'm conflicted regardless and purchasing shortly.

Can you spot the difference between these two watches?

http://i.imgur.com/UStRWu7.jpg

The one on the right is featured in the 2015-2016 catalogue. It appears this will be the dial of Submariners most ADs get in for 2016.

I really can't decide which one I like better or if it makes a difference.

I get it, I'm OCD and this is inconsequential. However, if your only comment is to point that out, please just move on. If you have a preference between the two styles, curious as to which one and why?
tbonesteak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 06:38 AM   #2
cht
2024 Pledge Member
 
cht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Real Name: Chris
Location: San antonio, TX
Watch: 116610LV
Posts: 2,143
Minor differences in the dial font...why does it make a difference to you?

It's just preference, there will be no logical answer, it's just what you like vs. what someone else likes.


In saying this, I like the one on the right. The font looks nicer. (shrugs)
cht is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 06:40 AM   #3
magnetic
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Real Name: Matt
Location: London
Posts: 285
Prefer the left dial as the right one has a 'typo' in that there is an extra space on the 2nd Line of type where it says '100ft = 300m'. There is a double space before the '3'.
The kerning needs tightening up.
It would bug me.
magnetic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 06:41 AM   #4
slm9555
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 617
I got mine in 2013 and my dial is the one on the right. I actually prefer the one on the left but the changes in real life aren't noticeable. The size of the font and the crown in real life is so small that it's very hard to tell. Everything looks bigger and more noticeable in these close up pictures. It's not really noticeable with the naked eye
slm9555 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 06:50 AM   #5
Annan
"TRF" Member
 
Annan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Real Name: Ron
Location: Arizona, USA
Watch: 116233
Posts: 3,180
FWIW http://thegreengmthand.com/about/use...shortfeet_dial
__________________
so many Rolexes.....so little time
Annan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 06:56 AM   #6
SLS
"TRF" Member
 
SLS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Real Name: Scott
Location: GMT -7
Watch: GMT's & Sub's
Posts: 10,401
I prefer the long feet dial, looks better...the short feet, as mentioned above, has spacing issues IMO.
Scott
__________________
"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin

Member No. 922
SLS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 08:06 AM   #7
Big_Fan
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 72
What an interesting coincidence I picked up a brand new watch Friday night and when I held it next to my other one I was hoping for different fonts. Ta-daaa!

Used IG tilt shift filter to focus on lettering.uploadfromtaptalk1449353142748.jpg

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
Big_Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 08:26 AM   #8
asleep
"TRF" Member
 
asleep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 778
My very recent SubC/date has the offset '='.
asleep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 09:22 AM   #9
OmegaJJH
"TRF" Member
 
OmegaJJH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Real Name: James
Location: UK
Watch: Rolex & Omega
Posts: 6,668
I still can't see a difference.
What does it matter if they are both genuine?
OmegaJJH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 09:53 AM   #10
silverbullet818
"TRF" Member
 
silverbullet818's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 839
It's like twin sisters. One is ultimately more beautiful than the other. You are lucky if you can have them both ;)
silverbullet818 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 10:42 AM   #11
tylerad1
"TRF" Member
 
tylerad1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: MI
Posts: 812
Does this affect the 114060 as well?
tylerad1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 10:43 AM   #12
Andad
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Andad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Real Name: Eddie
Location: Australia
Watch: A few.
Posts: 37,488
There are dial variations and there will be others in the future.

Just choose one you prefer - there is no right or wrong.
__________________
E

Andad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 01:02 PM   #13
HiloBeMagical
"TRF" Member
 
HiloBeMagical's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Fort Worth
Watch: Rolex 6205
Posts: 243
Quote:
Originally Posted by magnetic View Post
Prefer the left dial as the right one has a 'typo' in that there is an extra space on the 2nd Line of type where it says '100ft = 300m'. There is a double space before the '3'.
The kerning needs tightening up.
It would bug me.
That space gets taken up by the "1" in "1220" on my ref 16600, 4000 ft SeaDweller. I wonder if there's a connection there. ;)

Hilo
HiloBeMagical is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 01:31 PM   #14
TK-710
2024 Pledge Member
 
TK-710's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Upstate
Watch: 116600
Posts: 2,156
Left. Although it is close. I prefer the left for spacing and thickness of the font. But I don't like that the zeros are circles instead of ovals as circles are usually used for the letter "O" and the oval for zero. But I still prefer that than the spacing of the = on the right dial.

But with that said even though I would choose the left over right I would still happily buy the right if that was all that had.
TK-710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 06:14 PM   #15
Jack T
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Real Name: Jack
Location: The Triangle
Watch: Several
Posts: 6,719
It looks like my late model 14060m has the Right side fonts; however = appears to be evenly spaced between ft and 300. Am I seeing things correctly?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg image.jpg (117.1 KB, 1141 views)
__________________
Sub 116613 LN; GMT 116710 LN; Sinn 104R;
Exp 214270; GS SBGM221; Omega AT
Jack T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 06:56 PM   #16
padi56
"TRF" Life Patron
 
padi56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Real Name: Peter
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng
Watch: ing you.
Posts: 53,039
Quote:
Originally Posted by OmegaJJH View Post
I still can't see a difference.
What does it matter if they are both genuine?
Have to agree over the past 50 odd years there have been hundreds possible thousands of fonts changes on all watches.Trouble today with lupe mania and high magnification these are spotted mainly by the OCD types.Trouble with being a OCD type it often takes all the enjoyment of owning and wearing a Rolex watch.
__________________

ICom Pro3

All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only.

"The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever."
Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again.

www.mc0yad.club

Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder
padi56 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 07:20 PM   #17
Passionata
"TRF" Member
 
Passionata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: N/A
Watch: the girls
Posts: 7,095
Quote:
Originally Posted by padi56 View Post
Have to agree over the past 50 odd years there have been hundreds possible thousands of fonts changes on all watches.Trouble today with lupe mania and high magnification these are spotted mainly by the OCD types.Trouble with being a OCD type it often takes all the enjoyment of owning and wearing a Rolex watch.

Very well said👍🏻
__________________
Best
George

"Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston
---------------------
*new*https://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE *new *

http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ
IG @passionata1
Passionata is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 09:11 PM   #18
Spoonage
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: California
Posts: 3,132
Mine is an 114060 and has font type like the one on the right. Purchased September this year. I was more concerned that the case had no scratches since I specified it must be new from the coffin from the vault.

With that being said if they had both new from the vault I would have taken the one on the left. If they had the one on the left in the display case and the one on the right new in the vault I would go with the one from the vault.
Spoonage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 December 2015, 11:57 PM   #19
maxbaris
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Real Name: Baris
Location: Toronto
Watch: Rolex Explorer I
Posts: 477
Quote:
Originally Posted by magnetic View Post
Prefer the left dial as the right one has a 'typo' in that there is an extra space on the 2nd Line of type where it says '100ft = 300m'. There is a double space before the '3'.
The kerning needs tightening up.
It would bug me.
The double space would bug me too.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
maxbaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 December 2015, 01:09 AM   #20
brandrea
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
brandrea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Real Name: Brian (TBone)
Location: canada
Watch: es make me smile
Posts: 77,829
This will be great fodder for vintage collectors in 30 or 40 years from now ......
brandrea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 December 2015, 01:13 AM   #21
cop414
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
 
cop414's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Real Name: Tim
Location: Pennsylvania
Watch: 14060M
Posts: 72,137
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack T View Post
It looks like my late model 14060m has the Right side fonts; however = appears to be evenly spaced between ft and 300. Am I seeing things correctly?
Mine looks exactly like yours Jack, I know of at least three variations in font and spacing on the 14060M, I believe "ours" are a later version, mine is a G serial. These subtle differences occur often, pick what you like if you have a choice.
__________________

Rolex Submariner 14060M
Omega Seamaster 2254.50
DOXA Professional 1200T

Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons
TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron
P Club Member #17
2 FA ENABLED
cop414 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 December 2015, 01:34 AM   #22
Mickyfin
"TRF" Member
 
Mickyfin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Real Name: Michael
Location: Suomi
Watch: Planet Ocean
Posts: 334
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annan View Post
Really good link, thanks for sharing.
Mickyfin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 December 2015, 01:38 AM   #23
Luap1976
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: London Uk
Watch: 116610lnBBetaBBhar
Posts: 1,005
I noticed that 116610s and 114060s produced since 4 months ago has different rehaut engraving like these two subs in the op. the old sub c has deeply engraved rehaut that's outlined.another small change that rolex added
Luap1976 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 December 2015, 02:10 AM   #24
asleep
"TRF" Member
 
asleep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 778
Quote:
Originally Posted by brandrea View Post
This will be great fodder for vintage collectors in 30 or 40 years from now ......
2045 WTB: Short feet, offset = ceramic Submariner no date with unpolished bezel scallops
asleep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 December 2015, 02:34 AM   #25
jeffgo888
2024 Pledge Member
 
jeffgo888's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Real Name: Jeff
Location: CA
Watch: me disappear into
Posts: 1,935
wow...are we all getting OCSD? LOLOL....
but its a academic discussion..why is it difft?
Irregardless...they are BOTH superb /flawless timepieces..so enjoy!!!
__________________
***
Be inner, be peaceful

***
jeffgo888 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 December 2015, 02:49 AM   #26
greggsiam
"TRF" Member
 
greggsiam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Real Name: Gregg
Location: Bangkok
Posts: 694
As long as it's a genuine Rolex, I would buy it and be happy to have something a bit different. I'm not OCD, nor is it a defect, so I wouldn't care.
greggsiam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 December 2015, 05:55 AM   #27
Big_Fan
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 72
I forgot to mention the circles in the crown are different sizes. My green one us smaller than black. Look at your pic. Right watch is smaller.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
Big_Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 December 2015, 06:44 AM   #28
TK-710
2024 Pledge Member
 
TK-710's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Upstate
Watch: 116600
Posts: 2,156
I think on this forum the terms "OCD" and "attention to detail" are often confused or used interchangeable when they shouldn't be.
TK-710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 December 2015, 06:52 AM   #29
Tools
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
 
Tools's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Real Name: Larry
Location: Mojave Desert
Watch: GMT's
Posts: 43,494
Pictures in a catalog do not represent exactly what Rolex will be selling through their Dealers..

They do not "apparently represent" what Dealers will be offering, they are just stock photos.
__________________
(Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....)
NAWCC Member
Tools is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 December 2015, 07:22 AM   #30
presario
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Real Name: Andrew
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,428
Who notices the feet every time they look at the watch anyway? Must have hawk eyes. Both are awesome and I'd be proud to own either one. In cases like this, I take the one they have in stock and fall in love with it. I don't waste too much time over it.
__________________
presario is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

OCWatches

Asset Appeal

Wrist Aficionado

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

My Watch LLC


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.