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TaGY2K · 5 July 2008, 07:58 AM

I just bought a M series 16610 from a AD .. but I pay through CC and he mail it to me and today I went to a Rolex Service center to adjust my band. Then my friend say the Rolex is fake so now I am having doubt about it ... I pay over $6,000 Cda for it. It came in a box with the guarantee card that is green but it's in french.. the serial match the same on the watch. Is there a way for me to tell if it's really or fake .. I can take picture and let you look a it....?

arttay10 · 5 July 2008, 08:01 AM

Interesting story - Pictures alway help.
What basis is your friend making his claims???

JJ Irani · 5 July 2008, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaGY2K

I just bought a M series 16610 from a AD .. but I pay through CC and he mail it to me and today I went to a Rolex Service center to adjust my band. Then my friend say the Rolex is fake so now I am having doubt about it ... I pay over $6,000 Cda for it. It came in a box with the guarantee card that is green but it's in french.. the serial match the same on the watch. Is there a way for me to tell if it's really or fake .. I can take picture and let you look a it....?

Hi and welcome to TRF.

If you've bought it from a Rolex AD, you have nothing to fear. It will be 100% genuine. Some pics would be nice for all of us to enjoy.

Congrats on the finest sports watch out there!!

frostie · 5 July 2008, 08:27 AM

Welcome to TRF

Please post some pics of your watch

If you bought from an AD i think that your watch will be 100% legit

Terry Newton · 5 July 2008, 08:59 AM

Plus if you went to an RSC to have your band adjusted they would have told you it was a fake, if it was, and they would not have worked on it.

Welcome to TRF. Eager to see your new watch.

Terry Newton

TaGY2K · 5 July 2008, 09:32 AM

Here you go!

frostie · 5 July 2008, 09:34 AM

The watch looks ok to me

Terry Newton · 5 July 2008, 10:07 AM

I'm sorry to have to tell you this but, your watch is................................................ .................................................. .................................................. ................GENUINE!

Terry Newton

TaGY2K · 5 July 2008, 10:23 AM

wwwhhheeeww.. dont' scared me there.. so how can you tell?

stevemulholland3 · 5 July 2008, 02:40 PM

it looks good to me as well.all the tells seem right on

Andad · 5 July 2008, 03:55 PM

Enjoy wearing it.

Terry Newton · 5 July 2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaGY2K

wwwhhheeeww.. dont' scared me there.. so how can you tell?

Mine is a little older than yours but you can compare the both of them and spot the similarities. The other thing that looks great on yours is the latest security feature of Rolex is the Rolex engraving above the dial on the inner chapter ring. It will also have the series letter which is; "M" for your watch and the actual serial number. I can see both of them real clearly in your pictures. Your watch is real.

Enjoy it and wear it in good health. Your friend was just joking with you or he is not knowledgeable about the brand or the newer security features.

Terry Newton

pwrslider · 5 July 2008, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

Mine is a little older than yours but you can compare the both of them and spot the similarities. The other thing that looks great on yours is the latest security feature of Rolex is the Rolex engraving above the dial on the inner chapter ring. It will also have the series letter which is; "M" for your watch and the actual serial number. I can see both of them real clearly in your pictures. Your watch is real.

Enjoy it and wear it in good health. Your friend was just joking with you or he is not knowledgeable about the brand or the newer security features.

Terry Newton

What he said!!!

I agree it gen! And if Steve says so too....well hell!!....no reason to question it! The 3 best fake spotters confirmed yours as real!

swatty · 5 July 2008, 07:40 PM

Cant argue with all that expert opinion , wear it in good health

2careless · 5 July 2008, 07:57 PM

If you don't want it you can always send it to me

Enjoy and wear it in good health!

Fey · 5 July 2008, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaGY2K

I just bought a M series 16610 from a AD .. but I pay through CC and he mail it to me and today I went to a Rolex Service center to adjust my band. Then my friend say the Rolex is fake so now I am having doubt about it ... I pay over $6,000 Cda for it. It came in a box with the guarantee card that is green but it's in french.. the serial match the same on the watch. Is there a way for me to tell if it's really or fake .. I can take picture and let you look a it....?

Your friend is a a jealous guy, noway is that fake.

Buying from an AD is a 100% guarantee for authenticity.

TaGY2K · 6 July 2008, 02:14 AM

Thanks all.. for your help .....

OMG .. after wear this new baby .. there is scratches on the clasp and little on the band already ...dammm. I work in a office with computer ... maybe I should carpet my desk...

Hamilton Carvalho · 6 July 2008, 03:17 AM

Terry, I'm so sorry to be the one to say this to you but, your watch is a fake my friend. I know because the letter "R" is missing and you can only see part of the letter "E". To make things easier for you you may ship the watch to me and don't worry, I'll pay for the shipment. P.S. You don't have to thank me my friend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

Mine is a little older than yours but you can compare the both of them and spot the similarities. The other thing that looks great on yours is the latest security feature of Rolex is the Rolex engraving above the dial on the inner chapter ring. It will also have the series letter which is; "M" for your watch and the actual serial number. I can see both of them real clearly in your pictures. Your watch is real.

Enjoy it and wear it in good health. Your friend was just joking with you or he is not knowledgeable about the brand or the newer security features.

Terry Newton

SUPERDOC · 6 July 2008, 05:03 AM

No doubt about it..genuine article.

The first photo tells it all.

Remember...no matter how close the exterior...it's the movement that mkes it a Rolex..
The fakes with their ETA movements don't fit the case the way the rolex movement will....so the Winding crown on a gen Rolex will always overlap the bezel when viewed from the side.

The fake's crown will sit lower on the case.

Terry Newton · 6 July 2008, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaGY2K

Thanks all.. for your help .....

OMG .. after wear this new baby .. there is scratches on the clasp and little on the band already ...dammm. I work in a office with computer ... maybe I should carpet my desk...

You can get 3M Scotchbrite green pads, rub in the direction of the grain of the watch ever so lightly and you will remove all of the scratches. I do this about once a month or less as you don't want to remove any metal; just scratches. It will keep your watch looking new.

Terry Newton

Terry Newton · 6 July 2008, 07:50 AM

Hamilton:

I am so sad

that my watch is a fake. I, however, couldn't even begin to think to pass it off to one of my better friends on the Rolex Forum though (yourself). I wish to spare you the dreadfulness of also owning a fake watch as well.

Your Good Friend (Always Looking Out For You)

Terry Newton

JJ Irani · 6 July 2008, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaGY2K

I just bought a M series 16610 from a AD .. but I pay through CC and he mail it to me and today I went to a Rolex Service center to adjust my band. Then my friend say the Rolex is fake so now I am having doubt about it ... I pay over $6,000 Cda for it. It came in a box with the guarantee card that is green but it's in french.. the serial match the same on the watch. Is there a way for me to tell if it's really or fake .. I can take picture and let you look a it....?

What I completely fail to understand about this thread is......if you know for a fact that you've bought the watch from a genuine Rolex AD, why worry about it? And why start to panic just 'cause someone called it a fake?

You know it's from an AD.....so you should know that it can only be genuine!!

Cheers - JJ

Hamilton Carvalho · 6 July 2008, 08:19 AM

ok, ok you got me Terry.

But, whenever you need a babysitter to care for your baby I'm here to serve my friend. I'll pay for the delivery cost.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

Hamilton:

I am so sad

that my watch is a fake. I, however, couldn't even begin to think to pass it off to one of my better friends on the Rolex Forum though (yourself). I wish to spare you the dreadfulness of also owning a fake watch as well.

Your Good Friend (Always Looking Out For You)

Terry Newton

Wolfgang427 · 6 July 2008, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

What I completely fail to understand about this thread is......if you know for a fact that you've bought the watch from a genuine Rolex AD, why worry about it? And why start to panic just 'cause someone called it a fake?

You know it's from an AD.....so you should know that it can only be genuine!!

Cheers - JJ

Agree 100%

Also RSC would of confiscated it if it were fake.

TaGY2K · 7 July 2008, 12:52 PM

wow .. look at this Replica

http://www.maldwatch.com/Submariner-...ries-6378.html

Terry Newton · 7 July 2008, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaGY2K

wow .. look at this Replica

http://www.maldwatch.com/Submariner-...ries-6378.html

That is a horrible looking fake and most anyone should be able to tell the difference on that one. The hour markers have too much metal surrounding them, the band buckle is not germaine to the watch, the crown is all wrong, the coronet on the crown looks horrible, you can see the laser etched coronet on the crystal too clearly, it's an f series watch on the chapter ring branding which is not accurate, Rolex written on the inner ring looks horrible, the bezel looks engraved and wrong color, hands are too wide, seconds hand looks too big of circle in the center and looks cheap and too long, the white circle on the seconds hand is too big, the lume is uneven, the triangle is too big and not elongated, the band is totally off from the real McCoy, the center links on a real Submariner are not polished, it looks like a GMT IIc band instead of a Submariner, the crown guards are too wide, the hologram looks like a joke, where the spring bar is inserted in the band the open holes are not long enough and aren't round enough at the end, the bezel edge is too big and wide, and on and on.

Terry Newton

TaGY2K · 7 July 2008, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUPERDOC

No doubt about it..genuine article.

The first photo tells it all.

Remember...no matter how close the exterior...it's the movement that mkes it a Rolex..
The fakes with their ETA movements don't fit the case the way the rolex movement will....so the Winding crown on a gen Rolex will always overlap the bezel when viewed from the side.

The fake's crown will sit lower on the case.

Sorry... what is ETA stands for?

"so the Winding crown on a gen Rolex will always overlap the bezel when viewed from the side."

the crown is the part where you change the time on your watch?

Terry Newton · 7 July 2008, 01:34 PM

ETA is a movement company which is part of the Swatch group. They are the largest manufacturer of movements in the world grossing about 5 million movements per year.

Terry Newton

TaGY2K · 7 July 2008, 01:39 PM

Terry Newton .....Wow .. your good spotting the the difference..... I can see some but, not as much as you can see.... :)

astcell · 7 July 2008, 02:57 PM

One more thing I love about TRF, I have been here for so long that I can spot the fake watches easily now! Thanks!

5 July 2008, 07:58 AM	#1
TaGY2K Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 60	Rolex Submariner "M" 16610 I just bought a M series 16610 from a AD .. but I pay through CC and he mail it to me and today I went to a Rolex Service center to adjust my band. Then my friend say the Rolex is fake so now I am having doubt about it ... I pay over $6,000 Cda for it. It came in a box with the guarantee card that is green but it's in french.. the serial match the same on the watch. Is there a way for me to tell if it's really or fake .. I can take picture and let you look a it....?

5 July 2008, 08:27 AM	#4
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	Welcome to TRF Please post some pics of your watch If you bought from an AD i think that your watch will be 100% legit __________________ GMT - Master II C - 116710 LN

5 July 2008, 08:59 AM	#5
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	Plus if you went to an RSC to have your band adjusted they would have told you it was a fake, if it was, and they would not have worked on it. Welcome to TRF. Eager to see your new watch. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

5 July 2008, 09:34 AM	#7
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	The watch looks ok to me __________________ GMT - Master II C - 116710 LN

5 July 2008, 10:07 AM	#8
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	I'm sorry to have to tell you this but, your watch is................................................ .................................................. .................................................. ................GENUINE! Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

5 July 2008, 08:01 AM	#2
arttay10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancashire, UK Watch: ???????? Posts: 2,187	Interesting story - Pictures alway help. What basis is your friend making his claims???

5 July 2008, 10:23 AM	#9
TaGY2K Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 60	wwwhhheeeww.. dont' scared me there.. so how can you tell?

5 July 2008, 02:40 PM	#10
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	it looks good to me as well.all the tells seem right on

5 July 2008, 03:55 PM	#11
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,504	Enjoy wearing it. __________________ E

5 July 2008, 07:40 PM	#14
swatty 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,415	Cant argue with all that expert opinion , wear it in good health

5 July 2008, 07:57 PM	#15
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	If you don't want it you can always send it to me Enjoy and wear it in good health!

6 July 2008, 05:03 AM	#19
SUPERDOC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: R.J. Location: Canada Posts: 1,546	No doubt about it..genuine article. The first photo tells it all. Remember...no matter how close the exterior...it's the movement that mkes it a Rolex.. The fakes with their ETA movements don't fit the case the way the rolex movement will....so the Winding crown on a gen Rolex will always overlap the bezel when viewed from the side. The fake's crown will sit lower on the case.

6 July 2008, 07:50 AM	#21
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	Hamilton: I am so sad that my watch is a fake. I, however, couldn't even begin to think to pass it off to one of my better friends on the Rolex Forum though (yourself). I wish to spare you the dreadfulness of also owning a fake watch as well. Your Good Friend (Always Looking Out For You) Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

7 July 2008, 12:52 PM	#25
TaGY2K Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 60	wow .. look at this Replica http://www.maldwatch.com/Submariner-...ries-6378.html

7 July 2008, 01:34 PM	#28
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	ETA is a movement company which is part of the Swatch group. They are the largest manufacturer of movements in the world grossing about 5 million movements per year. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

7 July 2008, 01:39 PM	#29
TaGY2K Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 60	Terry Newton .....Wow .. your good spotting the the difference..... I can see some but, not as much as you can see.... :)

7 July 2008, 02:57 PM	#30
astcell "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Angelus Oaks, CA Watch: 116713 Posts: 6,828	One more thing I love about TRF, I have been here for so long that I can spot the fake watches easily now! Thanks!

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