Which of these 16800s is preferred?

[hanswstiftung]

Hi guys,

after my GMT fiasco, I am in the market for a submariner with patina.
The following are my options, looking to make a decision soon. I am totally unsure about which of these I should be buying.

Option 1 - luminous markers at 10 and 11 are said to be slightly chipped


Option 2 - serviced


Option 3 - not serviced, somewhere between plus/minus 15sec/day


Option 4 - the least patina but perhaps the most honest watch?
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=474856

So looking forward to your thoughts!

[Kingface66]

Number 4. No question

[J!m]

1 and 2 are out for me- I don't like the white gold surrounds.

Therefore 3 or 4 are the winners. I'd need side by side comparisons to make a final call.

[hanswstiftung]

Originally Posted by Kingface66

Number 4. No question

Why 4 over 3 if I may ask?

[Lgear080]

4 bc the seller is just awesome and it's the strongest watch without a story out
Of the four. I'd personally wait for one more interesting, but I prefer a spider dial
Personally.

[hanswstiftung]

The seller has been great so far, indeed.

I do like the more creamy look of option 3, though. Wondering why the date wheel is so much whiter than on option 4, considering the difference in patina on the dial...

The seller of option 4 suggested the possibility that option 3 could have re-lumed hands to match the dial. In any case, option 3 is not well priced.

[joli160]

I can't tell you if all is correct. But for me the patina on No.3 is the best looking and also not a fan of WG surrounds

[crowncollection]

3 or 4


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[R.W.T.]

3 is a much more appealing watch from what I can see for me.

[Pharmlou]

3 looks the best. If the hands have been matched they have done a great job!


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[harry in montreal]

4. Great band too

[tomilg]

Either 3 or 4, but just from the pics alone, I like 3 with 4 following a close second.

[Phllox]

3 'cause its patina is fantastic / dead sexy. +15 secs a day is just a matter of regulation / servicing

[springer]

Number 3.

[Vincent65]

3

[Gina Marie]

3....i am hoping the case is stronger than 4. Nothing like a nice pumpkin patina.....option 3 has a nice mark 3 dial.....i am for option 3. love the patina!

[Wing Zero]

3 is my choice.
Don't like the hands on the 4.

Also the dark patina on 3 will fade with continued exposure to the sun.

[Kingface66]

Originally Posted by lastgoulet

Why 4 over 3 if I may ask?

Just personally speaking, I think the patina on 3 is too yellow to believe. Or, another way of putting it, it just looks fabricated to me.
But, more than that, and practically speaking, I don't know anything about the store that is selling 3. The seller who is selling 4, Kirill, however, has a top-notch reputation here and sells a lot of fantastic pieces.
And as the old adage goes, one should "buy the seller"

*and to be sure, I LOVE patina'd watches, but occasionally I'm finding "too yellow" too much

[azguy]

4 for me, 3 is too yellow IMHO

[hanswstiftung]

There is a $1200 pricing difference between 3 and 4.
I am going for the lower priced option 4 most likely.

[John in MA]

Just on looks alone I would go with 4 as the patina on 3 looks too good to be true.

Going by seller I'd go with #4.

Looks like a bronze datewheel in the #4. Those can easily be replaced.

[R.W.T.]

There is nothing manufactured about the patina on 3. That is how many of those dials from that era ended up. I had 2 16750 take off dial and hand sets from an AD that were replaced in service for that yellowing effect.

Yes there are manufactured patinas...that is not one imho.

I think there are better matte dial 16800's for less money out there.

[springer]

Originally Posted by R.W.T.

There is nothing manufactured about the patina on 3. That is how many of those dials from that era ended up. I had 2 16750 take off dial and hand sets from an AD that were replaced in service for that yellowing effect.

Yes there are manufactured patinas...that is not one imho.

I think there are better matte dial 16800's for less money out there.

Totally agree with RWT. It looks genuine and like hundreds of others.

Come on John.

[John in MA]

Originally Posted by R.W.T.

There is nothing manufactured about the patina on 3. That is how many of those dials from that era ended up. I had 2 16750 take off dial and hand sets from an AD that were replaced in service for that yellowing effect.

Yes there are manufactured patinas...that is not one imho.

I think there are better matte dial 16800's for less money out there.

I agree that the dial looks true. The hands just look too good to my eyes. Personally when I have an inkling of doubt I won't consider it.

[Karbo]

I like #1 ... If you dont take it let me know
Thx

[hanswstiftung]

Originally Posted by R.W.T.

I think there are better matte dial 16800's for less money out there.

I wonder where... Any tips?

For those of you who don't mind WG surrounds, how does this one look?

[colpol]

Defo 3 or 4 with more pics & info before making final decision

[zapokee]

Originally Posted by Lgear080

4 bc the seller is just awesome

This. I've bought a couple of nice pieces from Kirill, and he's gone the extra mile each time. Definitely a highly trusted seller. Deal with confidence

[hanswstiftung]

Originally Posted by Karbo

I like #1 ... If you dont take it let me know
Thx

#1 is available here. Hope that helps!

[hanswstiftung]

Ok, quick update. I wanted to go for #4, mostly based on the recommendations for the seller. Unfortunately, international payment with these amounts did not go well with my bank, I ran into quite some hassle that I could not solve in time. Although the seller let me know he was disappointed with me as he had made arrangements for delivery through a friend, he acted helpful overall and my experience was a positive one in general.

Due to these payment difficulties, I went for #3. Despite the seller being less reputable, the watch looks just as good, if not better in my eyes. If anyone's interested, I'll post better pictures once I have it in my hands. Thanks for everyone's input!