Thoughts on this buckley Datejust I happen to like

[fizz]

I've had a few back and forth discussions with the seller and he's settled on a price of 2.8k USD.

This comes with box and papers. Model is 16030 dated to 1983.

Does the price seem fair?

What about the pics? Looks ok and not too overly polished. Dial is clean and aging is consistent.

Seller unfortunately can't provide caseback pictures but says there is a 30 day return period if anything is amiss.

Thoughts?

[MonBK]

Looking at the condition of the clasp I would insist on seeing the caseback.

[fizz]

Like I said, I've asked and he's declined saying he doesn't have the tools so we are at a deadlock. This is the only other pic that shows what the closed caseback looks like...

[JP Chestnut]

Are you OK with the price? If so, ask the seller to either get a watchmaker to get the back off, or accept PayPal - they are really good (too good) with buyer protection.

[fizz]

Price seems ok from the research that I've done, all things considered (comes with box and papers, not that I'm specifically after those things).

I will try the watch maker option. What do others think of the condition overall?

[crowncollection]

Looks all good from here, clasp is a bit heavily polished bit the case appears ok


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[springer]

Nice watch and gorgeous Buckley dial. I don't see any over-polishing issues at all. Nice condition for its age and the the coronet on the clasp is very visible so I would not call it over-polished either. The bracelet is correct with all 22 links and the correct end links. The clasp date code should be G, H or possibly I based on the serial number.

It seems to be a reasonable price for a complete set.

[panerai123]

Congratulations for the catch, watch looks great in pictures, I do not know about the price but I can tell you that based on the boxes and documents the watch was probably bought in a local (Caracas) store called Arte Katyno that used to be a good Rolex AD until the late eighties, the store closed on the early 90s. The buckle seems to be dirty with dust and grime but it is not rusted, at list from the picture shown.

Let us know the outcome. Rafael from Caracas

[Richard Carver]

Nice watch, any service history? There's a 1601 no BP or bracelet for about the same price on VRF. With a 30 day inspection I would probably give it a go.

I'm a fan of the painted Roman myself. This is a 1984 16030 with a gold crown dial from a gold model. I like the bit of warmth it gives the watch. I also have a spare dial tucked away awaiting a donor. :)

[Onx]

Wow that looks amazing richard! May I know where do you source the strap and buckle from?

[Richard Carver]

Thanks! I've had the strap over 15 years, the brand is Aero. It's a middling French brand. The deployant was made by a guy who used to hang out in the forums named Igor from Las Vegas, haven't seen him in a while.

[zapokee]

Looks good.

However, I bought a Tudor (not from this seller) that went kaput after about five weeks and needed a whole new movement, so I don't put much value on an X-day return period. If there's a year's movement guarantee, now you're talking.

You pays your money and you takes your chance with vintage. Achetez le vendeur...

[fizz]

Originally Posted by springer

Nice watch and gorgeous Buckley dial. I don't see any over-polishing issues at all. Nice condition for its age and the the coronet on the clasp is very visible so I would not call it over-polished either. The bracelet is correct with all 22 links and the correct end links. The clasp date code should be G, H or possibly I based on the serial number.

It seems to be a reasonable price for a complete set.

Thanks Springer...that's a very thorough assessment, especially coming from a pro like you.

Originally Posted by panerai123

Congratulations for the catch, watch looks great in pictures, I do not know about the price but I can tell you that based on the boxes and documents the watch was probably bought in a local (Caracas) store called Arte Katyno that used to be a good Rolex AD until the late eighties, the store closed on the early 90s. The buckle seems to be dirty with dust and grime but it is not rusted, at list from the picture shown.

Let us know the outcome. Rafael from Caracas

I'm amazed...you have a very keen eye. Impressive.

Thanks for the feedback. Yes I think the pics show dust not rust and it looks ok to me. I understand that inspection periods don't mean much so buying from a trusted or reputed sellers is key which is what I'm relying on with this.

I will go back to the seller and ask if he can take it to a watchmaker and open it up. Let's see how it goes.

[fizz]

And while we're at it...came across another seller offering a 1981 buckley. This one looks cleaner and in better condition but the patina isn't as eye popping compared to the first one. Price is about the same and it comes with service papers.

What do you guys think of this one?

[d.edwards]

Question: With the Buckley dials, I thought the hands should match the numbers. Black numbers, black hands. White numbers, white hands. Is this not true?