Day Date questions.

[Bigsykedaddy]

Hey guys I wanted to ask a few questions. I have been researching the Day Date recently and going through a ton of listings and reading some articles on it. I was pretty sure I was going to go for the DD 40 after trying it on but then yesterday I tried on the new 36 mm and I just loved the way it sat and looked on my wrist.

My questions:

- would you guys recommend going for the 2015 and newer model for the ceramic pins so that the bracelet stays nice and tight for a long time?

- Any of you that have the model prior to 2015, how do you find the bracelet to be holding up?

- If I decide to go for the 18238 (I assume that's the one that is a double quick set , which is a requirement IMO. I've read a lot lately and I am pretty sure that's the correct model.) what should I be looking for when trying to find one in good condition? I assume I should be looking for pictures where someone is holding the case in their hands and letting the bracelet hang to determine how much stretch the bracelet has? Is there anything else besides the obvious (dents in the case, asking the seller how it runs etc.)

- If I am looking for one in pretty decent condition that I can enjoy, should I be looking to pay around $10,000 or more?

Thank you all for your help, there is a lot more to researching this model than when I was in the market to buy a sub lol.

I appreciate any and all assistance in advance.

-Anthony

[Bigsykedaddy]

Let me simplify this a little more (sorry for the wall of text, I've just been doing a lot of reading lately and want to make sure I am heading in the right direction.)

- Is it worth going with the 2015+ model for the ceramic pins in the bracelet?
- Am I correct in assuming I can find a decent condition double quick set for around $10,000?
- Anything besides bracelet stretch that is specific to the Day Date I should be looking for while trying to buy one?

Thanks again I'm not trying to have all the work done for me, but I've read a lot of threads and I just want to be certain what boxes I need to tick when looking to buy. Thank you in advance I appreciate it

[zjd168]

people choose dd40 for many reasons e.g size, new movement or the 70 hours power reserve. Not sure if the pin inside the bracelet is one of them.

I myself still prefer and brought the 36mm 118238 mode after DD 40 was introduced. I don't think 18238 supports double quick set.

[Bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by zjd168

people choose dd40 for many reasons e.g size, new movement or the 70 hours power reserve. Not sure if the pin inside the bracelet is one of them.

I myself still prefer and brought the 36mm 118238 mode after DD 40 was introduced. I don't think 18238 supports double quick set.

Thanks for the info, yeah I was still going for the 36 mm for the new movement and the pins in the bracelet. Okay back to the drawing board I've been looking up different model numbers the past week and must of posted the wrong one. I just checked again and I am seeing 18238 cal 3155 supports double quick set. That's the reason I made this post because I find conflicting information on what to look for, but I think I'll be alright, I'll just continue to read up. It's half the fun anyway lol Thank you.

[Tudor841]

I've been thinking along the same lines and I think - for me - that the 18238 is just fine. It's not the latest but it is a double quick set model that looks just fine and fits my budget. I think 10k is a good figure for a budget as long as you are patient.

[Bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by Tudor841

I've been thinking along the same lines and I think - for me - that the 18238 is just fine. It's not the latest but it is a double quick set model that looks just fine and fits my budget. I think 10k is a good figure for a budget as long as you are patient.

Awesome, okay cool I'm on the right track then. Yeah I tried one on and I really just love everything about it and how it looks / fits on my wrist. It's a timeless look and a great piece

I have some time to decide and I am patient so I think I will enjoy hunting for a nice one. I am thinking either champagne dial to make everything match or maybe a white dial with romans, or even a silver stick. Fun times ahead

[mikeps2006]

May Be hard to find one around 10k unless it's an older one

[Bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by mikeps2006

May Be hard to find one around 10k unless it's an older one

Yeah that's fine, I am looking around 10-15k. I've read through pages of listings on the forums and the older ones are fine as long as it's in great shape and the bracelet isn't stretched out I think i'm golden.

I've also went through all of the Day Date owners thread and am really enjoying all the pictures. After trying on the 36 mm right after the 40 mm yesterday the 36 mm grabbed me and won't let go lol.

Thanks for the response.

[gossbeau]

Originally Posted by Bigsykedaddy

Let me simplify this a little more (sorry for the wall of text, I've just been doing a lot of reading lately and want to make sure I am heading in the right direction.)

- Is it worth going with the 2015+ model for the ceramic pins in the bracelet?
- Am I correct in assuming I can find a decent condition double quick set for around $10,000?
- Anything besides bracelet stretch that is specific to the Day Date I should be looking for while trying to buy one?

Thanks again I'm not trying to have all the work done for me, but I've read a lot of threads and I just want to be certain what boxes I need to tick when looking to buy. Thank you in advance I appreciate it

Hi Anthony,
You are right to go the Day-Date route. You will love it I can guarantee you that.
To try and answer your questions:

1) I believe the ceramic sleeves are only found on the 228238 model which is the day date 40mm that came out in 2015. As for the 36mm 118238 that came out after Basel 2015 I doubt they use ceramic sleeves for the bracelet. Then again I might be wrong. They might have implemented that post 2015 on all Day Dates.

2) 18238 and 118238 are both double quick set. The previous model 10838 is single quick set. The difference between 18238 and 118238 is the solid links which add around 25 to 30% more weight. Since it is gold, it is more dough lol! Also the 118238 seems to have the end-links that come flushed against the case as opposed to the 18238 where slight gaps sometimes "could" be found. This gives it a neater finish. You could find a decent 18238 for high 10 but definitely not a decent 118238 that will set you at minimum low 13. But hey, both are double quick set minus the heft.
I would definitely save up more and get the 118238 as they still make it today. For 13'gs you can ball like if you spent 35 for the newer models which are identical and that no one would ever be able to tell them apart.

3) Besides the stretch, make sure the bezel is not over polished as well as the lugs. The fluted bezel has edges too a little bit like waves and those must be sharp enough to reflect the light nicely. With gold you must be more careful as there is only so many polishes you can do before it loses the lines and angles. But as you said, the most important is the president bracelet. Find one with the minimum stretch and also make sure the center links don't have big gaps between them. I have seen examples where the bracelet held horizontal when held by the case but then had big gaps between the center links. You don t want that as it will show too much of your skin/hair.

Happy hunting!!

[gossbeau]

One more thing, if you were to purchase a Day Date in mint condition and want to keep it that way, I would suggest you to clean it every day with a little bit of soap and water. Especially the bracelet that you want to keep fresh and clean. The stretch occurs when dirt, perspiration and grime get into the links and act like sand paper which,after a while will enlarge the pin holes and wear the pins which, in consequence, will make the bracelet floppy. A president bracelet is far from cheap so look after it before it is too late.

[Bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by gossbeau

Hi Anthony,
You are right to go the Day-Date route. You will love it I can guarantee you that.
To try and answer your questions:

1) I believe the ceramic sleeves are only found on the 228238 model which is the day date 40mm that came out in 2015. As for the 36mm 118238 that came out after Basel 2015 I doubt they use ceramic sleeves for the bracelet. Then again I might be wrong. They might have implemented that post 2015 on all Day Dates.

2) 18238 and 118238 are both double quick set. The previous model 10838 is single quick set. The difference between 18238 and 118238 is the solid links which add around 25 to 30% more weight. Since it is gold, it is more dough lol! Also the 118238 seems to have the end-links that come flushed against the case as opposed to the 18238 where slight gaps sometimes "could" be found. This gives it a neater finish. You could find a decent 18238 for high 10 but definitely not a decent 118238 that will set you at minimum low 13. But hey, both are double quick set minus the heft.
I would definitely save up more and get the 118238 as they still make it today. For 13'gs you can ball like if you spent 35 for the newer models which are identical and that no one would ever be able to tell them apart.

3) Besides the stretch, make sure the bezel is not over polished as well as the lugs. The fluted bezel has edges too a little bit like waves and those must be sharp enough to reflect the light nicely. With gold you must be more careful as there is only so many polishes you can do before it loses the lines and angles. But as you said, the most important is the president bracelet. Find one with the minimum stretch and also make sure the center links don't have big gaps between them. I have seen examples where the bracelet held horizontal when held by the case but then had big gaps between the center links. You don t want that as it will show too much of your skin/hair.

Happy hunting!!

AMAZING!!!

Thank you so much for this I truly appreciate it

So it sounds like I will be hunting for a 118238, that sounds the most appealing to me after reading your post. Lots of great tips and I am saving this post to help me find a great piece. Thanks again, I appreciate it

Originally Posted by gossbeau

One more thing, if you were to purchase a Day Date in mint condition and want to keep it that way, I would suggest you to clean it every day with a little bit of soap and water. Especially the bracelet that you want to keep fresh and clean. The stretch occurs when dirt, perspiration and grime get into the links and act like sand paper which,after a while will enlarge the pin holes and wear the pins which, in consequence, will make the bracelet floppy. A president bracelet is far from cheap so look after it before it is too late.

Cool I already wash my Sub every few days in the sink to keep grime to a minimum. I actually enjoy doing it so that won't be an issue. Yeah they are beautiful bracelets so I want to make sure I get one in great condition so I can keep it that way.

[gossbeau]

Just a few shots to reinforce your search!

[Bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by gossbeau

Just a few shots to reinforce your search!

/droooool

Love em! I've already been searching tonight since reading your post haha.

[kwinky]

In what year were the solid links introduced? Believe the double quick set to be available since about 1990, so that would include 26 year old watches. Believe too that there was a clasp change as well.

[watchwatcher]

For your budget, you will probably need to stretch a little more for a 118238, I would think, from what I've seen for sale on the different forums. Not an expert, though.

Look closely for bracelet stretch. That is an expensive fix. Good luck,

[anothernewphone]

I've done a lot of shopping for 36mm Day-Dates, and 10K won't get you much. If you want a decent example, with little-to-no stretch, I'd expand your budget up to at least $13K, as to not compromise.

I've been keeping an eye on watchrecon.com, with alerts set on 18238 and 118238 models, as well as glancing at eBay every once in a while. I'd suggest you do the same!

[Bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

For your budget, you will probably need to stretch a little more for a 118238, I would think, from what I've seen for sale on the different forums. Not an expert, though.

Look closely for bracelet stretch. That is an expensive fix. Good luck,

Originally Posted by anothernewphone

I've done a lot of shopping for 36mm Day-Dates, and 10K won't get you much. If you want a decent example, with little-to-no stretch, I'd expand your budget up to at least $13K, as to not compromise.

I've been keeping an eye on watchrecon.com, with alerts set on 18238 and 118238 models, as well as glancing at eBay every once in a while. I'd suggest you do the same!

Yeah, after doing some digging last night I think I am going to be on the higher end of my budget and go for a 118238. I think it makes the most sense to get a DD in great quality. Thanks everyone

[Maiden]

I would say buy the best condition you can find. I was looking for a 18238/118238 in good/mint condition. I was lucky and my guy found a 18238 which was essentially never worn. Zero stretch and had a full Rolex service. I had to pounce. To get an 118238 in the same condition would be double the price. Good luck in your search, no bad decision here. A couple of pics of mine.

[1995akcoop]

go 118238,,,, weight is considerably more. plus all the upgrades... mine is a 2008 model V series and is identical to the new random serials for waaaaay cheaper


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[AK797]

Originally Posted by Bigsykedaddy

Yeah, after doing some digging last night I think I am going to be on the higher end of my budget and go for a 118238. I think it makes the most sense to get a DD in great quality. Thanks everyone

Yeah it's a DD, shouldn't be getting one too much on the cheap, better pay for quality.

[Lordofrolex]

The price between a good representation of 18238 and 118238 is too close not to get the 118238.

Check out my DD 118238 on the sales section.

[robbrum]

Why not going for a 19018 the quartz model from rolex.



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[Bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by Maiden

I would say buy the best condition you can find. I was looking for a 18238/118238 in good/mint condition. I was lucky and my guy found a 18238 which was essentially never worn. Zero stretch and had a full Rolex service. I had to pounce. To get an 118238 in the same condition would be double the price. Good luck in your search, no bad decision here. A couple of pics of mine.

Beautiful pics man I love it!