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Old 17 May 2017, 07:23 AM   #1
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Depreciation of Original deepsea

Hi forum I just want to share my sad feeling about DSSD black. Recently I ask my dealer friend just see how much cost in used market. Result was very sad. It goes around 6.5k-7.5k.... which is sub date ceramic cost.. I think this beast deserve but more than that... I know deepsea blue is killing this piece but... kind of hard to justify price between those 2 pc. What you guys think???


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Old 17 May 2017, 07:25 AM   #2
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I think it will be discontinued, thus preserving used prices.
The 43 makes the DSSD obsolete.

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Old 17 May 2017, 07:26 AM   #3
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That's trade-in price which is always trash. Still goes for around $9k if you sell it yourself.
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Old 17 May 2017, 07:30 AM   #4
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I don't think the SD43 makes the DSSD obsolete at all. They wear very similarly now with the new size increase on the SD43 but the DSSD still has far superior water resistance and is a testament to what Rolex can offer to consumers on the diver end. Yes I understand no one will ever use this kind of water resistance but it's a marketing tool I don't see Rolex giving up....not to mention the Deep Sea Blue still has a very compelling dial. SD43 has just been released and is like every new watch, hyped and hot.....wait until the smoke clears then we'll have a better idea how good the watch does compared to the DSSD.
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Old 17 May 2017, 07:32 AM   #5
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Here is better picture of this beast!
Still stunning !

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Old 17 May 2017, 07:41 AM   #6
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They are going down in price and I think they will continue a little bit further then hit bottom and rise slowly.
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Old 17 May 2017, 07:42 AM   #7
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They are going down in price and I think they will continue a little bit further then hit bottom and rise slowly.
What is the reason behind??😳😳😳

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Old 17 May 2017, 07:54 AM   #8
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Well the theory behind it is everyone wants the James Cameron, and now with the SD43 it brings the black deepsea demand down even further. It doesnt affect anything really though I have noticed dealers selling them at lower prices than usual and one told me he was finding it hard to sell it when in the past they move quick but in reality it's the same watch as james Cameron just different dial, they are a great watch and who knows maybe in the future it will be more desirable than the James Cameron.
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Old 17 May 2017, 07:56 AM   #9
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Well the theory behind it is everyone wants the James Cameron, and now with the SD43 it brings the black deepsea demand down even further. It doesnt affect anything really though I have noticed dealers selling them at lower prices than usual and one told me he was finding it hard to sell it when in the past they move quick but in reality it's the same watch as james Cameron just different dial, they are a great watch and who knows maybe in the future it will be more desirable than the James Cameron.
True that !

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Old 17 May 2017, 07:59 AM   #10
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I don't think the SD43 makes the DSSD obsolete at all. They wear very similarly now with the new size increase on the SD43 but the DSSD still has far superior water resistance and is a testament to what Rolex can offer to consumers on the diver end. Yes I understand no one will ever use this kind of water resistance but it's a marketing tool I don't see Rolex giving up....not to mention the Deep Sea Blue still has a very compelling dial. SD43 has just been released and is like every new watch, hyped and hot.....wait until the smoke clears then we'll have a better idea how good the watch does compared to the DSSD.
The DSSD and SD43 don't wear similarly at all. Love the engineering that's gone into the DSSD, but the 43 highlights the flaws of the dimensions.

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Old 17 May 2017, 08:11 AM   #11
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Prices have got lower as more must have models have come into play, that happens with all sorts of products. Everyone always wants the hottest thing and to keep up with the Jones.

Still a great watch and who knows what will happen in the future. Keep it long enough and you will make your money back.

Be interesting to see what happens in the next 2yrs, if it survives or not.
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Old 17 May 2017, 08:50 AM   #12
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The DSSD and SD43 don't wear similarly at all. Love the engineering that's gone into the DSSD, but the 43 highlights the flaws of the dimensions.

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I guess it depends on perspective. For me the way the SD43 protrudes from the back with the increased case size wears similar to a deep sea for me (small wrist)....certainly a lot closer to that than any sub/previous sea dweller I've tried. I won't debate that the SD43 has nicer proportions taking a better lug and bracelet design for that size....it most certainly wears slimmer for guys with larger wrists that has the piece flat on their wrist.

IMO the DSSD will get a bracelet update in the coming years (to match that of the SD43) but they won't discontinue it, the water resistance is too good as a marketing tool for the brand.
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Old 17 May 2017, 08:53 AM   #13
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No point for SD black dial to even keep continuing. Folks wanting big watch will either go for James Cameron Deepsea or SD43. This version doesn't excite anyone.
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Old 17 May 2017, 09:28 AM   #14
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But if you like the watch -- Why does it matter of its value??

I have a D-blue because I like wearing it..

I don't care if it sells at 5000 or 15 000 pounds
And it makes no difference to me if they discontinue the model or not

It's a nice piece you are wearing ,,,,,enjoy, never sell
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Old 17 May 2017, 10:40 AM   #15
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Old 17 May 2017, 11:07 AM   #16
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Old 17 May 2017, 11:17 AM   #17
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share..sad feeling DSSD black.Recently I ask my dealer friend...how much cost...used market.Results..very sad...~6.5k-7.5k
Dont be sad handsome.I'm keeping an eye on my local ebay market scenario. Interesting to note as of today based on the latest foreign currency exchange rates, a brand new SD4K is tagged between USD87xx-93xx. A pre-owned good condition DSSD regular version full set retails for USD83xx-87xx.So the price of the SD4k hasn't risen yet.Preowned DSSD values still holding strong.I dont know about the rest of the world but any Malaysian Seller right now will tell you that a pre owned DSSD holds its value better than a preowned SD4K.Ignore arguments for discontinued model BS!
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What you guys think???
I'm a girl
Anyway,the seller was quoting the trade in value.Your "best friend trader" needs to make a grand or two to survive the cut throat business.If you must,then sell the DSSD on your local ebay market but nothing less than USD85xx.Hold your ground Sir,dont show every0ne you're desperate!
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Old 17 May 2017, 01:33 PM   #18
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Love my black dial



So do I that is a beauty!


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Old 17 May 2017, 03:08 PM   #19
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True dat. Plus the SD50th has that nasty cyclops (which doesn't belong in my opinion)!

Keep the DSSD for sure.

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Old 17 May 2017, 03:17 PM   #20
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I had a black DSSD
Great watch!

But I'm guessing the SD43 will eat into black DSSD sales
The SD43 is perfect for those wanting a bigger Sub but can't/won't wear a DSSD
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Old 17 May 2017, 04:01 PM   #21
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You really shouldn't generalize; I would pick the black DSSD over the D-blue or SD43 in a heartbeat. I can't be the only one.
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Old 17 May 2017, 04:11 PM   #22
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I personally think black dial DSSD looks better/traditional. However, I bought D-Blue since it's a more collectable piece IMO......
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Old 17 May 2017, 04:14 PM   #23
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Dont be sad handsome.I'm keeping an eye on my local ebay market scenario. Interesting to note as of today based on the latest foreign currency exchange rates, a brand new SD4K is tagged between USD87xx-93xx. A pre-owned good condition DSSD regular version full set retails for USD83xx-87xx.So the price of the SD4k hasn't risen yet.Preowned DSSD values still holding strong.I dont know about the rest of the world but any Malaysian Seller right now will tell you that a pre owned DSSD holds its value better than a preowned SD4K.Ignore arguments for discontinued model BS! I'm a girl
Anyway,the seller was quoting the trade in value.Your "best friend trader" needs to make a grand or two to survive the cut throat business.If you must,then sell the DSSD on your local ebay market but nothing less than USD85xx.Hold your ground Sir,dont show every0ne you're desperate!
So I guess you are ladie?😉
Thank you for you detail comment !
It is very detail as alway!

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Old 17 May 2017, 04:16 PM   #24
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But if you like the watch -- Why does it matter of its value??

I have a D-blue because I like wearing it..

I don't care if it sells at 5000 or 15 000 pounds
And it makes no difference to me if they discontinue the model or not

It's a nice piece you are wearing ,,,,,enjoy, never sell
Because few time I was going to flip this to dssd blue 😶😶

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Old 17 May 2017, 04:18 PM   #25
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I personally think black dial DSSD looks better/traditional. However, I bought D-Blue since it's a more collectable piece......
It kind of crazy when deepsea blue came out there was alot of hater.. all of sudden every one is going crazy with it.

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Old 17 May 2017, 08:18 PM   #26
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You really shouldn't generalize; I would pick the black DSSD over the D-blue or SD43 in a heartbeat. I can't be the only one.
You most certainly are not the only one.

Black is just so much more elegant, classic and versatile IMO.

D-Blue feels like a weekend watch to me. Black sits nice with a casual suit in the week AND weekend wear - and this is without even thinking about the transition over to a Rubber-B for summer.

Not to say D-Blue can't be used in smart-wear configurations, I just think black just has the edge in versatility.

Depreciation worries me a bit, because I'd like to think it will hold its value well if and when I flip for an upgrade to something costlier in the future (a PP perhaps).

I always seem to buy that one watch that depreciates greatly when everything else around it holds or gains c'est la vie - I love my DSSD black, and whilst I look at the SD43/50 and D-Blue with envious eyes at times - it's only in the spirit of wanting 'more', not wanting something 'else'.
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Just a beautiful piece of fine engineering, pure function over anything fashionable
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The DSSD with the black face is a great value in the market right now. I will look at the SD43 in person but might pick up another DSSD in it's place and save 3K. I like the DSSD-Blue but have an issues paying the difference for a dial.
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I bought a DSSD black last month. I had the choice between the original and the d-blue dial. For me the choice was easy as nothing beats a black DSSD. True beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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