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statuskuo · 25 May 2018, 02:51 AM

GMT "fuchsia" bezels have been getting crazy in price. Does anybody know if there are any telltale signs of a regular red back bezel being a future fuchsia bezel? I have one that I swear looks slightly pink in certain light, but I'm not sure if it will age to a fuchsia color.

Do they all need to be fat font red backs? Thanks, any insight is greatly appreciated

linesiders · 25 May 2018, 03:47 AM

Redbacks for value.

Yes I would supsect an early pink might get to Fuchsia but it could go gray too - time is the master we cannot yet control

roh123 · 25 May 2018, 09:07 AM

Fuchsia bezels were initially already pupleish. Imho only around 1968 together with matte mk1 dials. Here is a catalogue pic from 1968.

sensui · 25 May 2018, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by roh123

Fuchsia bezels were initially already pupleish. Imho only around 1968 together with matte mk1 dials. Here is a catalogue pic from 1968.

Yep. I'd like to also add the fuchsia'ish back don't all fade to fuchsia in the front. I got one that looks more strawberry in front but definitely fuchsia in the back like my other fuchsia inserts.

roh123 · 25 May 2018, 04:08 PM

Slight typo. Catelogue is from 1969.

omitohud · 26 May 2018, 01:21 AM

IMO if it’s not fuchsia by now after almost 50 years, I doubt you can still find a NOS that hasn’t faded. Just for fun, here is fuchsia for you.

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statuskuo · 26 May 2018, 02:45 AM

Very interesting, thanks all for the input!

It's amazing how much of a difference a bezel can make.

SgWatchBaron · 27 May 2018, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by statuskuo

GMT "fuchsia" bezels have been getting crazy in price. Does anybody know if there are any telltale signs of a regular red back bezel being a future fuchsia bezel? I have one that I swear looks slightly pink in certain light, but I'm not sure if it will age to a fuchsia color.

Do they all need to be fat font red backs? Thanks, any insight is greatly appreciated

No it will not ever become a fuchsia. It has to start out life with a vibrant vivid pinkish purple back and has to be from the MK 1 1675 GMT era. I currently own 15+ of them, and all has it’s own unique colour. I’ve got several brand new ones that were never mounted on a watch. The only thing they all have in common is a vibrant purple back. Not red not not pink not blue. But pinkish purple.

Like so...

Some of them together. Couple are missing from the pic.

SgWatchBaron · 27 May 2018, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by linesiders

Redbacks for value.

Yes I would supsect an early pink might get to Fuchsia but it could go gray too - time is the master we cannot yet control

I disagree with this statement. It starts life as a Fuchsia due to a defect in the paint. It only becomes faded fuchsia due to time and climate. A true fuchsia would never become grey.

SgWatchBaron · 27 May 2018, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sensui

Yep. I'd like to also add the fuchsia'ish back don't all fade to fuchsia in the front. I got one that looks more strawberry in front but definitely fuchsia in the back like my other fuchsia inserts.

Highly unusual. In my experience all fuchsia backs are fuchsia front. If you don’t mind, I would like to see this oddball you speak off.

omitohud · 27 May 2018, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SgWatchBaron

I disagree with this statement. It starts life as a Fuchsia due to a defect in the paint. It only becomes faded fuchsia due to time and climate. A true fuchsia would never become grey.

I think what he meant is the “blue” part turning grey like the one I showed above. The base is red, or fuchsia in this case, will never turn other color. Maybe fade to lighter color, but would not turn to other color.

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David AP · 16 July 2018, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SgWatchBaron

No it will not ever become a fuchsia. It has to start out life with a vibrant vivid pinkish purple back and has to be from the MK 1 1675 GMT era. I currently own 15+ of them, and all has it’s own unique colour. I’ve got several brand new ones that were never mounted on a watch. The only thing they all have in common is a vibrant purple back. Not red not not pink not blue. But pinkish purple.

Like so...

Some of them together. Couple are missing from the pic.

That watch you have there, is the watch of my dreams....I don't think there's anything I'd want more - gorgeous.

HarryLime · 16 July 2018, 04:43 AM

Wow, what a collection! I’m pretty pleased with my one as of now.

springer · 16 July 2018, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by roh123

Fuchsia bezels were initially already pupleish. Imho only around 1968 together with matte mk1 duals. Here is a catalogue pic from 1968.

In my opinion, that photo is a "file photo." Definitely not a Mark I matte dial as found during 1968 or 1969 production. Personally, it appears to be a gilt dial under magnification. Their catalog photos were used for several back then and were not changed every year. As an example, red Sub dials can be found in their owner's manual until the late 1970s.

HarryLime · 16 July 2018, 05:32 AM

Are there any photos floating around of fuchsias OR soon-to-be fuchsias from the late 60s or early 70s?

05carbondrz · 16 July 2018, 06:38 AM

Mine,Love the fade.

springer · 16 July 2018, 11:26 AM

1968 case back, 1.8 million GMT-MASTER 1675. With fuchsia insert and original oval-link Jubilee bracelet.

roh123 · 16 July 2018, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by springer

In my opinion, that photo is a "file photo." Definitely not a Mark I matte dial as found during 1968 or 1969 production. Personally, it appears to be a gilt dial under magnification. Their catalog photos were used for several back then and were not changed every year. As an example, red Sub dials can be found in their owner's manual until the late 1970s.

Definely not? You have better eye sight then me then. :)

I see a Long E and I see a big GMT hand. To me it is clearly a matte dial. Nevertheless the interesting part is that the fuchsia insert actually had a fuchsia color to start with. They haven’t faded to this color.

To me they are after gilt dials. Sweet spot around 1968.

Boaters · 17 July 2018, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by springer

1968 case back, 1.8 million GMT-MASTER 1675. With fuchsia insert and original oval-link Jubilee bracelet.

Drop dead gorgeous JP

HarryLime · 17 July 2018, 01:41 AM

Here's mine

Vincent65 · 17 July 2018, 01:45 AM

1967 is the production year I've seen most of them - Long E MKI.

HarryLime · 17 July 2018, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent65

1967 is the production year I've seen most of them - Long E MKI.

Yeah that's what mine is, IV67.

RRGHOST1 · 17 July 2018, 02:29 AM

Those bezels will be worth a lot of money in the fuchsia !

frankoman · 17 July 2018, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RRGHOST1

Those bezels will be worth a lot of money in the fuchsia !

The Fuschia is now apparently - 5K for a minty one.

lee fowler · 17 July 2018, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RRGHOST1

Those bezels will be worth a lot of money in the fuchsia !

Jp28 · 17 July 2018, 07:48 AM

Yep my fuschia is on a long E mk1 from early '68 as well, so does seem to be the source.

exador · 17 July 2018, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SgWatchBaron

I currently own 15+ of them

#InsertHog

twnturbo · 17 July 2018, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryLime

Here's mine

Beauty! but if your gonna show us a picture don't block out the long E Bro

HarryLime · 17 July 2018, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by twnturbo

Beauty! but if your gonna show us a picture don't block out the long E Bro

lol, I was actually thinking the same thing.

Here you go

LLmrol · 21 July 2018, 04:42 PM

Anyone ever seen a fuschia bezel on a luminova/superluminova gmt?

25 May 2018, 02:51 AM	#1
statuskuo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Caleb Location: San Francisco Posts: 49	1675 GMT Fuchsia Bezels GMT "fuchsia" bezels have been getting crazy in price. Does anybody know if there are any telltale signs of a regular red back bezel being a future fuchsia bezel? I have one that I swear looks slightly pink in certain light, but I'm not sure if it will age to a fuchsia color. Do they all need to be fat font red backs? Thanks, any insight is greatly appreciated

25 May 2018, 03:47 AM	#2
linesiders 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,501	Redbacks for value. Yes I would supsect an early pink might get to Fuchsia but it could go gray too - time is the master we cannot yet control __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

25 May 2018, 09:07 AM	#3
roh123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Per Location: Sweden Watch: Gilt Rolex Posts: 2,946	Fuchsia bezels were initially already pupleish. Imho only around 1968 together with matte mk1 dials. Here is a catalogue pic from 1968. __________________ Instagram: @perj123

25 May 2018, 04:08 PM	#5
roh123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Per Location: Sweden Watch: Gilt Rolex Posts: 2,946	Slight typo. Catelogue is from 1969. __________________ Instagram: @perj123

17 July 2018, 01:45 AM	#21
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	1967 is the production year I've seen most of them - Long E MKI. __________________

26 May 2018, 01:21 AM	#6
omitohud "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: los Angeles Posts: 2,051	IMO if it’s not fuchsia by now after almost 50 years, I doubt you can still find a NOS that hasn’t faded. Just for fun, here is fuchsia for you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

26 May 2018, 02:45 AM	#7
statuskuo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Caleb Location: San Francisco Posts: 49	Very interesting, thanks all for the input! It's amazing how much of a difference a bezel can make.

16 July 2018, 04:43 AM	#13
HarryLime "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: NY Posts: 676	Wow, what a collection! I’m pretty pleased with my one as of now.

16 July 2018, 05:32 AM	#15
HarryLime "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: NY Posts: 676	Are there any photos floating around of fuchsias OR soon-to-be fuchsias from the late 60s or early 70s?

16 July 2018, 06:38 AM	#16
05carbondrz Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,030	Mine,Love the fade.

17 July 2018, 01:41 AM	#20
HarryLime "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: NY Posts: 676	Here's mine

17 July 2018, 02:29 AM	#23
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 3,994	Those bezels will be worth a lot of money in the fuchsia ! __________________ RRGHOST1

17 July 2018, 07:48 AM	#26
Jp28 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Here and there Posts: 575	Yep my fuschia is on a long E mk1 from early '68 as well, so does seem to be the source.

21 July 2018, 04:42 PM	#30
LLmrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 143	Anyone ever seen a fuschia bezel on a luminova/superluminova gmt?

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