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2 June 2018, 08:22 AM | #1 |
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2007 rolex gmt master ii blue red pepsi 16710 Z. real or fake
Hi im about to purchase from a friend and want to make sure its real
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2 June 2018, 08:27 AM | #2 |
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this is what bothers me
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It looks good to me.
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Watch is genuine.
Some "strange" corrosion or possible dirt to bracelet, that I would want to see. A
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Wow. Thanks guys. I just have this nagging feeling that it’s not authentic. But I know where he purchased from etc. and the pictures seem off or I’m just being paranoid since this is a big purchase and potentially being fake and losing thousands.
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I am pretty confident movement, dial case are genuine - no worries there.
Bracelet has some corrosion - not sure if its just dirt. BUT If you are NOT 100% sure and happy do NOT proceed a
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Thanks. I got him to lower to $6500. Is that worth it for investment, or to flip after wearing it a while.
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2 June 2018, 11:14 AM | #8 |
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Yeah, the crown side lug (Left) looks like it was Re-contoured/Polished eliminating the bevel on that side. This is not uncommon. That side is more prone to impacts and scratches that are subsequently polished out. The lug still looks pretty thick, so if you can get the price-point you like then......
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I think thats a pretty fair price for a GMTII
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Bracelet Stretch?
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Any reason why you wouldn't want to take it in to be checked out before the purchase? I assume your friend didn't purchase it from an AD, which is why you're questioning the authenticity? It would be worth to take it in, then you'll both know for sure. If you do end up buying it, your mind will be left at ease and not have this nagging doubt in the back of it. :)
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3 June 2018, 07:31 AM | #16 |
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Yeah I think optical anomaly it is lol. I don’t think there are any stickers on it. I’ve tried it on a few times months ago don’t remember the protective stickers being on it.
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One more thing guys. What’s 16170 bnro this 2007 model is the gmt master 2 16170b model right. Why do some call it the bnro. I thought that was only the new models with the new “ceramic” or cerohome. Something like that. That is labeled BNRO. Opps I mean BLRO. I just assumed that label BLRO is for the new one.
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Looks ok
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BLRO is simply an abbreviation for "Bleu/Rouge" (blue/red). The black-only bezel is LN for "Lunette Noir" and the black/red "Coke" had no suffix. The ID on the papers separated them with an A/B/N suffix on the reference number: 16710A = black/red 16710B = blue/red 16710N = black |
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Thanks for the clarification. But i think the curled up peeling you see is just reflection.
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Me too. Is that not the side Rolex also adds a small hologram? Not preszent here.
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Buy the watch. Everything depicted in your photos are from a genuine watch, from the dial, bezel, bezel insert, bracelet etc. The price is definitely below market.
Once home, give it a good cleaning.
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You are NOT Going To See A Price Like That Again. Lately, GMT prices seem to go up every day.
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What kind of a friend would sell you a fake Rolex?
I mean if you have to ask about this I'd be questioning the friendship as much as the watch. |
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My friend just dropped it off to me. If everything is good after I bring it in to authenticate I will own my first Rolex. All the pits on the picture is just dirt. Very minor scratches and just needs a cleaning. Better shape than I expected and smaller than o expected since the pics were zoomed in.
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Oh, and just curious: Was that a sticker on the 9 o'clock side of the case? |
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