LV experts, what say you?

[Davvan]

Just found an ad for an LV with K serial. This must be a really early example of this ref #.

Anyone has a K serial LV or heard of it?

David

[toph]

as far as I am aware the first LV was Y9xxx. so K is too early
check below
http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...ary+Submariner

[milspec]

well, LVs started production in 2003, I mean that's when they hit the market.

K series stamping implies:
K000,001 2001 (Fall) --- 2001 to 2003 is 2 years between when the case was stamped and when it hit the market ...

If a watch hits market in 2003, it should have Y or F as the earliest letters for serial numbers ....K is a little too old, but not totally out ... As a caution though, I would pass ....

[Davvan]

I too thought K is a bit early. The serial is K 9218xx...I got a picture of it. Not with the engraved serial, but only with the serial printed on the certificate....but that could come from another regular 16610


Since it not my ad...I´m not sure if it´s ok to publish the picture here?

David

[toph]

does it have the maxi dial? As you say it could be 16610 with a LV insert

[mike]

David, your's would be the first with a K prefix. That's a bit to early. Post a pic if you want, it would help identifying what you have.

[Tools]

David,

The reason that nobody can really answer your question is that nobody really knows for sure.

The K models were made from 2000 through 2003, and the Y models were made from 2002 through 2004, so there is a bit of overlap.

Since the LV didn't come out until 2003, and nobody has seen otherwise, it is thought that they were introduced as Y models onward... It is also thought that none were produced for the world market with lug holes cases, even though the original Rolex previews clearly showed holes.

But this is all only because nobody has brought a K forward and had it authenticated as a legitimate LV Sub.

If this one were to prove to be so, then it would become another data point on the never ending search to flesh out an accurate serial/model database.

[Davvan]

Here´s the picture from a local internet sales board. Mine is D serial, bought oct 2005.

This one was sold in 2003 according to the ad/seller.
I think it´s hard to tell from this pic if this a geunie one.

David

[toph]

that is definitly not a maxi dial. I am 10000% certain that this is a regular sub with an LV insert

[scooba]

http://www.bjsonline.com/watches/for...p?topic=1312.0

[Davvan]

If it´s a regular sub with a green bezel, this guy is in trouble. He states that it´s an genuie LV. Box and papers included.

Thanks guys.

David

[harvey]

check out... http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...rt=0&rid=29620

"the first models were issued on a 'Y' serial in September 2003 with very early 'F's following in October/December"

hope this helps some...

[AIKO]

Guys, how can you determine the Maxi dial? I have seen it discussed a lot but am not really sure what it means. I am also buying an pre-owned LV and would like to know what the deal is.

Thanks

[scooba]

can you put a better pic of the dial up on here.the markers seam small unlike a maxi dial thanks

[argee1977]

Originally Posted by AIKO

Guys, how can you determine the Maxi dial? I have seen it discussed a lot but am not really sure what it means. I am also buying an pre-owned LV and would like to know what the deal is.

Thanks

The luminous hour marker dots are twice the size of the ones on the basic Submariner, that is definitely a basic sub with green bezel.

You can tell maxi dials straight away as the luminous markers almost fill the dial in a circular pattern, the basic submariner has pretty weak markers in comparison.

[Mr Sandman]

Originally Posted by toph

that is definitly not a maxi dial. I am 10000% certain that this is a regular sub with an LV insert

X2

As Toph said its difinitly not a maxi dial and the LV only ever comes with the maxi....I'd pass and stay well clear

[Davvan]

.....no more pics I´m afraid, since I "stole" the picture from an internet sales ad. I’m not interested to buy this one since I already got the LV. Bought from an AD in 05.

Was just curious if the LV came with K serial since I´ve never seen it before.

Probably just a regular 16610 with the green insert.

Nobody is foolin this forum

[toph]

for those who asked-this is a maxi dial. not my picture .

check the difference with the one posted above, that is a regular sub with and LV green insert

[Trurolexer]

Originally Posted by toph

that is definitly not a maxi dial. I am 10000% certain that this is a regular sub with an LV insert

X2!!!

[mike]

As stated...regular dial.

Here's a side by side.

I think a lume shot really shows the difference,

[Wolfgang427]

That's not an LV and it has holes on the case sides.

[bullmrkt]

Hello, new to the board and I'm looking at this LV. What does everything think it is? A mark 3? It is pre-owned but has all the essentials with it. I want to make sure I purchase a "real" early example LV. Thanks!

[PalmSpringsCaVault]

This is a stupid question and forgive my ignorance but could the hourmarkers themselves be changed and not the whole dial? I know many that sell aftermarket diamond add-ons to remove older style hour bars on datejusts? I just wonder if there is a aftermarket oversized lums? sidestepping the ethics of it all, I only ask to prevent people from getting taken.

[PalmSpringsCaVault]

Does this meet the criteria, the case is 16610T ser. 2003 F ser.








It would appear to me from looking at this forum that there was a maxi dial and green bezel for sell for 300-400 that the actual papers with this watch would carry a heavy premium. What would you discount it if it was just the watch and box no paperwork value wise? ballpark thank you in advance.

[CharlieG]

Originally Posted by wolfgang427

That's not an LV and it has holes on the case sides.

You have good eyes, I still cant see the holes

[TempoKing]

Originally Posted by toph

that is definitly not a maxi dial. I am 10000% certain that this is a regular sub with an LV insert

Regular Sub with an LV insert...I agree with Chris