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SearChart · 24 March 2019, 02:11 AM

Servicing this 3235 from a DateJust 41 under warranty, seconds wheel pivot is dry on the dial side... Causing extra friction and wear which lowers amplitude and causes timekeeping issues.

SearChart · 24 March 2019, 02:11 AM

Some more pictures

BisonHead · 24 March 2019, 02:14 AM

Wow Bas, some great photos.

You must have the eye of an eagle, the hand of a surgeon and the patience of a saint.

Top job.

richard371 · 24 March 2019, 02:16 AM

Nice shots. Thanks

Largoshark · 24 March 2019, 02:17 AM

Cool, thanks for sharing!

RichM · 24 March 2019, 02:17 AM

If my watch ever needed service, I’d love to send it to you.

Do you find it unusual for it to be dry? I’m assuming the watch isn’t that old.

Thanks for sharing.

jerseyb · 24 March 2019, 02:21 AM

Great pictures. Really cool.

FTX I · 24 March 2019, 02:23 AM

Fantastic pictures, Bas. Thanks for sharing.

037 · 24 March 2019, 02:25 AM

Outstanding shots, Bas.

For a mass-produced movement, the updated finish work is impeccable. It's something that only watchmakers get to enjoy. Thanks for sharing with everyone.

Brian Page · 24 March 2019, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

Some more pictures

So Bas, what's your impression of this movement, Thumbs up or thumbs down? Makes me wonder if sometimes these movements go out with bugs that need to be worked out. I've never been a fan of jumping on the first run of a new movement. Great Pictures!!

Zuger · 24 March 2019, 02:31 AM

Thank you for sharing.

77T · 24 March 2019, 02:33 AM

Very nice illustrated disassembly. You said the cause was a lubrication issue.

How unusual is this within 5 years?

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037 · 24 March 2019, 02:34 AM

Is the balance wheel rotationally balanced? I see what looks like small holes around the outer perimeter, making me think it's balanced like a flywheel.

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Originally Posted by SearChart

mjclark32 · 24 March 2019, 02:34 AM

Really cool, thanks for sharing!

Roleplay · 24 March 2019, 02:38 AM

Very nice! Thanks!

SearChart · 24 March 2019, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Mickol

If my watch ever needed service, I’d love to send it to you.

Do you find it unusual for it to be dry? I’m assuming the watch isn’t that old.

Thanks for sharing.

Yes that is unusual for a movement. The first series of 32×× movements don't have lubricant at the seconds wheel pivot on the dial side, thus developing problems. They now lubricate this point... So I'm guessing the first series of the new caliber are not gonna run for a very long time before they need a service.

Fat_ninja · 24 March 2019, 02:49 AM

Thanks Bas...really cool

SearChart · 24 March 2019, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Page

So Bas, what's your impression of this movement, Thumbs up or thumbs down? Makes me wonder if sometimes these movements go out with bugs that need to be worked out. I've never been a fan of jumping on the first run of a new movement. Great Pictures!!

It's a little goofy for sure, I need to get used to the difference architecture. But on paper it is a fine movement with the weak points of the previous movements fixed, more efficient and it has a longer power reserve

Just a bit unfortunate that the early ones might develop this problem due to lack of lubrication. Will be fixed at service though

SearChart · 24 March 2019, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 037

Is the balance wheel rotationally balanced? I see what looks like small holes around the outer perimeter, making me think it's balanced like a flywheel.

These are just holes from poising during production. They are different on every single balance wheel.

Brian Page · 24 March 2019, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SearChart

It's a little goofy for sure, I need to get used to the difference architecture. But on paper it is a fine movement with the weak points of the previous movements fixed, more efficient and it has a longer power reserve

Just a bit unfortunate that the early ones might develop this problem due to lack of lubrication. Will be fixed at service though

One last thing out of curiosity - was it running fast or slow?

037 · 24 March 2019, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SearChart

These are just holes from poising during production. They are different on every single balance wheel.

Ahh, that sounds like it's done the same as a flywheel. Awesome.

t65tampa · 24 March 2019, 03:03 AM

Very cool! Thanks for sharing that!

JayHantz · 24 March 2019, 03:04 AM

Awesome shots, Bas. It’s always a pleasure seeing your posts of the innermost parts of our favorite watches.

Boothroyd · 24 March 2019, 03:12 AM

Thank you for the break from Basel threads with something tangible about the Rolex mainstay movement. GREAT pics!

SearChart · 24 March 2019, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Page

One last thing out of curiosity - was it running fast or slow?

It was running at 160ish degrees amplitude, dial up fully wound, and it was losing about 70sec a day

SearChart · 24 March 2019, 03:15 AM

Thanks for the replies everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by 037

Ahh, that sounds like it's done the same as a flywheel. Awesome.

RichM · 24 March 2019, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SearChart

Yes that is unusual for a movement. The first series of 32×× movements don't have lubricant at the seconds wheel pivot on the dial side, thus developing problems. They now lubricate this point... So I'm guessing the first series of the new caliber are not gonna run for a very long time before they need a service.

Good to know. Thanks Bas

Dsmith1974 · 24 March 2019, 04:10 AM

Love these threads!

Is there a manual/book that explains exactly how a 31.. or 32.. movement works?

TswaneNguni · 24 March 2019, 04:14 AM

Great post ! Thanks

Hmmmm ...so Rolex do make mistakes

ltmgeller · 24 March 2019, 04:15 AM

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24 March 2019, 02:14 AM	#3
BisonHead "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: UK Watch: Sub,SD,DJ,OP Posts: 1,950	Wow Bas, some great photos. You must have the eye of an eagle, the hand of a surgeon and the patience of a saint. Top job.

24 March 2019, 02:16 AM	#4
richard371 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: sf Watch: 116500LN White Posts: 1,853	Nice shots. Thanks

24 March 2019, 02:17 AM	#5
Largoshark "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Mike Location: New England Posts: 1,754	Cool, thanks for sharing!

24 March 2019, 02:21 AM	#7
jerseyb "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: New Jersey Watch: Explorer II Posts: 232	Great pictures. Really cool.

24 March 2019, 02:23 AM	#8
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Fantastic pictures, Bas. Thanks for sharing.

24 March 2019, 02:25 AM	#9
037 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: USA Posts: 6,173	Outstanding shots, Bas. For a mass-produced movement, the updated finish work is impeccable. It's something that only watchmakers get to enjoy. Thanks for sharing with everyone.

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Zuger "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: me set the time Posts: 2,520	Thank you for sharing.

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24 March 2019, 02:49 AM	#17
Fat_ninja Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772	Thanks Bas...really cool

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Dsmith1974 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Duncan Location: London Watch: DD 40 Posts: 2,263	Love these threads! Is there a manual/book that explains exactly how a 31.. or 32.. movement works?

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TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	Great post ! Thanks Hmmmm ...so Rolex do make mistakes

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