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Bebot · 4 April 2009, 03:05 AM

Questions for SS Daytona expert.

Are the "M" series and "V" series identical?

If not, what are the difference between the two? Believe it or not, my local AD have no idea.

TIA

Tools · 4 April 2009, 03:09 AM

They are identical..

It's just a number, and they are making both; so there is no way to tell if any single number (M or V) is "fresher" than another.

TheVTCGuy · 4 April 2009, 03:27 AM

Larry, as long as we're on this line of discussion, is the only difference between my Z and the M/V series the new clasp? The reason I ask is because of the laser(?) etching on the side of the case of a new Daytona I saw at an AD. Is that permanent? Or a sticker? Or... ?

DAVIDSW · 4 April 2009, 03:41 AM

There is no real difference other than production date. The V series are newer production. The main difference comes in the clasp.

78490- Old Clasp
78590- New clasp

Best
DavidSW

fusion7 · 4 April 2009, 03:47 AM

Is it true that they are still making both? My AD today offered me an M with the newest clasp which apparently just came in - I'm a bit dubious about it!

Daytona09 · 4 April 2009, 03:53 AM

I believe that is a sticker. I say this because, I purchased up my V series SS last week, it had what appeared to be a laser marking on the side, however, when I received my pride and joy in the mail (avoided paying taxes) there was no laser sticker to be found, so I assume the AD took it off. Can someone confirm?

fusion7 · 4 April 2009, 03:55 AM

That is most definitely a sticker - I remember taking mine off.

Bebot · 4 April 2009, 03:56 AM

The reason I am asking is because someone told me that if you can find an "M" series to your local AD, they still sell it for the old price of $9200.00.

padi56 · 4 April 2009, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusion7

Is it true that they are still making both? My AD today offered me an M with the newest clasp which apparently just came in - I'm a bit dubious about it!

Cannot understand why they are both the same its only difference a case stamp,watches are not perishable they dont have a sell by date.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daytona09

I believe that is a sticker. I say this because, I purchased up my V series SS last week, it had what appeared to be a laser marking on the side, however, when I received my pride and joy in the mail (avoided paying taxes) there was no laser sticker to be found, so I assume the AD took it off. Can someone confirm?

Yes its only a AD stock identification plastic sticker.

Yoda · 4 April 2009, 04:35 AM

whats the difference in the old and new clasp to look at?

vh_bu98 · 4 April 2009, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLODUCK

The reason I am asking is because someone told me that if you can find an "M" series to your local AD, they still sell it for the old price of $9200.00.

It would be up to the AD on how much they would want to sell a "M" series for. They can sell it for the old price or the new price. There is nothing that states on how much they have to sell anything for.

bodybump · 4 April 2009, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLODUCK

The reason I am asking is because someone told me that if you can find an "M" series to your local AD, they still sell it for the old price of $9200.00.

Maybe for a white dial...some AD sells black dial $300 more...clasp is the only difference between M or V...but who cares...hahahahaha

Bebot · 4 April 2009, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodybump

clasp is the only difference between M or V...but who cares...hahahahaha

I thought they both have the same clasp?

rijowysock · 4 April 2009, 05:23 AM

alright, some early M have old clasp ($9200) when new clasp came out thats when price jumped $9925 to my knowledge..

clasp references are above^^^

M and V are both being shipped now.. i got 2 brand new just arrived Daytona's last month, both M... kept one and sold one cause i only wanted 1 but made too many calls asking for one and had to take it..

all of them have the rolexrolexrolex inner bezel since i think Z maybe earlier

forza1976 · 4 April 2009, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rijowysock

all of them have the rolexrolexrolex inner bezel since i think Z maybe earlier

This is pretty cool, I hadn't noticed that until this post. Thanks. Mine is also a V series, cool to see the serial number etched there as well.

Tools · 4 April 2009, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusion7

Is it true that they are still making both? My AD today offered me an M with the newest clasp which apparently just came in - I'm a bit dubious about it!

Yes..........they are still making both.. it's in the math..

The "M" release only came out in 2008, and the "V" release was first seen in late 2008, barely 6 months later and likely as the number of "Z" cases began to reach a certain (unknown) number on hand, so.........These two prefixes are being produced concurrently..... And perhaps there are Z serials still being produced of some models.

Remember, serial numbers are spread throughout the entire Rolex line, not just the watch on your wrist. Some probably run through their allotted serial numbers before others that don't move so fast.... So, a Z series White Gold Daytona may be newer than a V series GMT II...... and perhaps the very next serial number after yours is on a Ladies Pearlmaster.

Both "M"s and "V"s have been seen with the latest clasp change..

Andad · 4 April 2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Cannot understand why they are both the same its only difference a case stamp,watches are not perishable they dont have a sell by date.

Yes its only a AD stock identification plastic sticker.

When you say 'not perishable'

I have read posts claiming that the oils will deteriorate, migrate from the surfaces, congeal, etc etc, even on a watch that is not used so would a 6 year old 'new' Rolex need a service because the oils might not be doing their thing?

CPCC · 4 April 2009, 12:51 PM

clasp is the difference

Wowzers · 4 April 2009, 12:57 PM

whats different in the clasp

bodybump · 4 April 2009, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLODUCK

I thought they both have the same clasp?

nope...one has a round hole lock and the other one has the hook type...i wish they could have made tha clasp glide lock like the deepsea...

chenx15 · 4 April 2009, 02:41 PM

really don't care about the bracelet or clasp i'm going jubilee with mine!

handdoc · 4 April 2009, 09:51 PM

some M have the old (better) clasp, and some have the new clasp...the V have the new clasp

AD suck because if they had an M at 9200 and they price increase occurred, they jacked up the price to 9925, even though they owned it back of the 9200 price

grey market is they way to go

Tempoking or Gagan navani at elite time

Ronnie Rolex · 5 April 2009, 12:39 AM

Handdo, why is the old clasp better? Just wondering since I haven't had a chance to compare them.

Trurolexer · 5 April 2009, 12:50 AM

The different only in their clasp. V have a new model clasp.

Randy · 5 April 2009, 11:19 AM

I just purchased a V serial from my Ad, it has old clasp. You will find M and V serials with bold old and new clasp.
I personally prefer smaller clasp (old).

Connoisseur · 5 April 2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda

whats the difference in the old and new clasp to look at?

See pics here (thanks to Larry for a great Daytona post):
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...hlight=daytona

Connoisseur · 5 April 2009, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy

I just purchased a V serial from my Ad, it has old clasp. You will find M and V serials with bold old and new clasp.
I personally prefer smaller clasp (old).

Interesting. My new V series has the new clasp. Didn't know they made the V with the old.

One advantage the new clasp has over the old that I really like: the new clasp has the extra link you can adjust under the clasp on the fly. This is one feature of the new clasp I love. You can loosen the bracelet about 1.5-2mms on the fly.

Ronnie Rolex · 5 April 2009, 04:22 PM

Actually my M class Daytona has the old clasp with the hole while my GMTIIC that I got eight months before the Daytona has the channel clasps. Go figure.

Oh and I got the information from Randy's post that the old clasp my be preferable since its smaller. That is true. Since my wrist is only 6.5 inches, it will probably fit me better if I ever get a chance to get it sized. Its been sitting in its box for months now.

My GMTIIC fits well since you can move the 12 o clock links over to the six.

Atomant · 5 April 2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connoisseur

Interesting. My new V series has the new clasp. Didn't know they made the V with the old.

One advantage the new clasp has over the old that I really like: the new clasp has the extra link you can adjust under the clasp on the fly. This is one feature of the new clasp I love. You can loosen the bracelet about 1.5-2mms on the fly.

Connoisseur, the M series I slapped on my wrist with the old clasp on comes with the 'on the fly' adjuster as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy

I just purchased a V serial from my Ad, it has old clasp. You will find M and V serials with bold old and new clasp.
I personally prefer smaller clasp (old).

Randy, other than the 'channel' in the clasp, you mean to say that the buckle is different as well? Is it shorter or longer?

Ronnie Rolex · 6 April 2009, 01:14 AM

Roderich, yes, the older clasp is shorter than the new one.

4 April 2009, 03:05 AM	#1
Bebot "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Emil Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: U macallit Posts: 2,645	SS Daytona "M" vs "V" Questions for SS Daytona expert. Are the "M" series and "V" series identical? If not, what are the difference between the two? Believe it or not, my local AD have no idea. TIA

4 April 2009, 03:09 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,490	They are identical.. It's just a number, and they are making both; so there is no way to tell if any single number (M or V) is "fresher" than another. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

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CPCC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: USA Posts: 1,857	clasp is the difference __________________

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4 April 2009, 03:27 AM	#3
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	Larry, as long as we're on this line of discussion, is the only difference between my Z and the M/V series the new clasp? The reason I ask is because of the laser(?) etching on the side of the case of a new Daytona I saw at an AD. Is that permanent? Or a sticker? Or... ?

4 April 2009, 03:41 AM	#4
DAVIDSW ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: David Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: 1655 EXP Posts: 36,337	There is no real difference other than production date. The V series are newer production. The main difference comes in the clasp. 78490- Old Clasp 78590- New clasp Best DavidSW

4 April 2009, 03:47 AM	#5
fusion7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London Posts: 7	Is it true that they are still making both? My AD today offered me an M with the newest clasp which apparently just came in - I'm a bit dubious about it!

4 April 2009, 03:53 AM	#6
Daytona09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Staten Island Posts: 1	I believe that is a sticker. I say this because, I purchased up my V series SS last week, it had what appeared to be a laser marking on the side, however, when I received my pride and joy in the mail (avoided paying taxes) there was no laser sticker to be found, so I assume the AD took it off. Can someone confirm?

4 April 2009, 03:55 AM	#7
fusion7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London Posts: 7	That is most definitely a sticker - I remember taking mine off.

4 April 2009, 03:56 AM	#8
Bebot "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Emil Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: U macallit Posts: 2,645	The reason I am asking is because someone told me that if you can find an "M" series to your local AD, they still sell it for the old price of $9200.00.

4 April 2009, 04:35 AM	#10
Yoda Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London Watch: PP AP RM Posts: 794	whats the difference in the old and new clasp to look at?

4 April 2009, 05:23 AM	#14
rijowysock "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Riley Location: 41.89° N, 87.62° Watch: URWERK Posts: 499	alright, some early M have old clasp ($9200) when new clasp came out thats when price jumped $9925 to my knowledge.. clasp references are above^^^ M and V are both being shipped now.. i got 2 brand new just arrived Daytona's last month, both M... kept one and sold one cause i only wanted 1 but made too many calls asking for one and had to take it.. all of them have the rolexrolexrolex inner bezel since i think Z maybe earlier

4 April 2009, 12:57 PM	#19
Wowzers Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 15	whats different in the clasp

4 April 2009, 09:51 PM	#22
handdoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New England Posts: 328	some M have the old (better) clasp, and some have the new clasp...the V have the new clasp AD suck because if they had an M at 9200 and they price increase occurred, they jacked up the price to 9925, even though they owned it back of the 9200 price grey market is they way to go Tempoking or Gagan navani at elite time

5 April 2009, 12:39 AM	#23
Ronnie Rolex Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Man. Bch., CA USA Watch: SS-P YM Posts: 679	Handdo, why is the old clasp better? Just wondering since I haven't had a chance to compare them.

5 April 2009, 12:50 AM	#24
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	The different only in their clasp. V have a new model clasp.

5 April 2009, 11:19 AM	#25
Randy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Randy Location: Ohio Watch: AP, Rolex, Panerai Posts: 1,241	I just purchased a V serial from my Ad, it has old clasp. You will find M and V serials with bold old and new clasp. I personally prefer smaller clasp (old).

5 April 2009, 04:22 PM	#28
Ronnie Rolex Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Man. Bch., CA USA Watch: SS-P YM Posts: 679	Actually my M class Daytona has the old clasp with the hole while my GMTIIC that I got eight months before the Daytona has the channel clasps. Go figure. Oh and I got the information from Randy's post that the old clasp my be preferable since its smaller. That is true. Since my wrist is only 6.5 inches, it will probably fit me better if I ever get a chance to get it sized. Its been sitting in its box for months now. My GMTIIC fits well since you can move the 12 o clock links over to the six.

6 April 2009, 01:14 AM	#30
Ronnie Rolex Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Man. Bch., CA USA Watch: SS-P YM Posts: 679	Roderich, yes, the older clasp is shorter than the new one.

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