The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Vintage Rolex Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 18 November 2023, 05:25 AM   #1
jerseybean
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Jersey
Posts: 81
case engravings - reading badly worn ones any trick to reading them, restoration?

Any trick to reading badly worn engravings maybe using a graphite pencil or a dye. Also, is it possible to re-engrave or restore a badly worn engraving?
jerseybean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 November 2023, 05:36 AM   #2
Dan S
2024 Pledge Member
 
Dan S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Colorado, USA
Posts: 6,260
I always start with a high power loupe and try viewing and lighting it from various angles. Sometimes you can read additional numbers by finding just the right viewing angles.
__________________
@oldwatchdan on IG
Dan S is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 18 November 2023, 07:09 AM   #3
jerseybean
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Jersey
Posts: 81
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan S View Post
I always start with a high power loupe and try viewing and lighting it from various angles. Sometimes you can read additional numbers by finding just the right viewing angles.
is the case worth keeping even with the worn numbers the resale value is always an issue for me. Someone will always want something but with the worn case markings it a hard sell.
jerseybean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 November 2023, 07:11 AM   #4
TimeLord2
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
TimeLord2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Valencia, CA
Watch: GMT Master 1675/3
Posts: 2,186
Would not recommend restoration of serial numbers unless Rolex decides to do it. Angles and lighting definitely. Also try photographing and enlarging the image.
TimeLord2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 November 2023, 07:58 AM   #5
jerseybean
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Jersey
Posts: 81
I got most of the serial numbers off which is 428330x from a 1016 thanks for the tips just the same that I had to use a loupe attached to my phone to read them. but the question is the watch worth keeping with unreadable serial numbers.

it's a shame that on a vintage watch, the Rolex doesn't have a better restoration service - I know that Porsche does in Germany and they do an incredible job.
jerseybean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 November 2023, 08:20 AM   #6
southtexas
2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member
 
southtexas's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Great State of TX
Posts: 5,761
Quote:
Originally Posted by jerseybean View Post
I got most of the serial numbers off which is 428330x from a 1016 thanks for the tips just the same that I had to use a loupe attached to my phone to read them. but the question is the watch worth keeping with unreadable serial numbers.

it's a shame that on a vintage watch, the Rolex doesn't have a better restoration service - I know that Porsche does in Germany and they do an incredible job.
If you keep working different angles and lighting, I bet you can read the last digit unless it's just decimated/scratched off. If they're able to be read, even if it's difficult, then I personally wouldn't have a problem with the case.
__________________
Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me.

Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex
southtexas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 November 2023, 09:12 AM   #7
Dan S
2024 Pledge Member
 
Dan S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Colorado, USA
Posts: 6,260
Quote:
Originally Posted by jerseybean View Post
I got most of the serial numbers off which is 428330x from a 1016 thanks for the tips just the same that I had to use a loupe attached to my phone to read them. but the question is the watch worth keeping with unreadable serial numbers.

it's a shame that on a vintage watch, the Rolex doesn't have a better restoration service - I know that Porsche does in Germany and they do an incredible job.
It sounds like you were able to read the numbers, so it is definitely worth keeping the original case. In fact, I think it's always worth keeping the original case unless it is badly corroded. An original case with worn numbers is better than a service case. Any restoration will kill the value, it's not a car.
__________________
@oldwatchdan on IG
Dan S is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 19 November 2023, 01:05 AM   #8
swish77
2024 Pledge Member
 
swish77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Real Name: Aaron
Location: CT/NYC
Watch: ing the time!
Posts: 6,985
An RSC can also tell you the serial number even if it’s illegible. They can trace it via the movement number, assuming it’s original to the case.
swish77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 November 2023, 01:53 AM   #9
jerseybean
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Jersey
Posts: 81
Quote:
Originally Posted by swish77 View Post
An RSC can also tell you the serial number even if it’s illegible. They can trace it via the movement number, assuming it’s original to the case.

I thought the watch was from the 60's but it looks like the 70's so the movement is correct for the watch and looks like it was serviced on a regular basis with a lot of watchmaker marks on the back. I didn't know you could trace a watch using the movement as well, that was a first for me as well.

It's a cheap 1016 but I wanted it to be worn as a daily driver and not draw too much attention to it plus I love the simplicity of the Explorer dials.
jerseybean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 November 2023, 04:11 AM   #10
TimeLord2
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
TimeLord2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Valencia, CA
Watch: GMT Master 1675/3
Posts: 2,186
Quote:
Originally Posted by jerseybean View Post
I thought the watch was from the 60's but it looks like the 70's so the movement is correct for the watch and looks like it was serviced on a regular basis with a lot of watchmaker marks on the back. I didn't know you could trace a watch using the movement as well, that was a first for me as well.

It's a cheap 1016 but I wanted it to be worn as a daily driver and not draw too much attention to it plus I love the simplicity of the Explorer dials.
Might not be so cheap anymore. Please post some pics as I think we would all love to see it!
TimeLord2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 November 2023, 04:53 AM   #11
Tools
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
 
Tools's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Real Name: Larry
Location: Mojave Desert
Watch: GMT's
Posts: 43,494
Once you have the original serial number it's not a bad idea to etch it on the inside of the caseback.

It's not a perfect solution, but any noticeable change to the case serial seriously affects its originality/value/desirability.
__________________
(Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....)
NAWCC Member
Tools is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 November 2023, 01:52 AM   #12
jerseybean
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Jersey
Posts: 81
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tools View Post
Once you have the original serial number it's not a bad idea to etch it on the inside of the caseback.

It's not a perfect solution, but any noticeable change to the case serial seriously affects its originality/value/desirability.
thats not a bad idea. I have a fiber laser, I was thinking about doing something like that.
jerseybean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 November 2023, 01:53 AM   #13
jerseybean
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Jersey
Posts: 81
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2 View Post
Might not be so cheap anymore. Please post some pics as I think we would all love to see it!
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=924964

Here's the pics from a prior thread. The band is incorrect but Im not worried about since Im not able to wear metal bands because of a scar.
jerseybean is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

OCWatches

Asset Appeal

Wrist Aficionado

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

My Watch LLC


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.