What's Coming Baselworld 2020?

[timepiecegentleman]

Originally Posted by Rolex_AG

My prediction for Basel - A lot of new watches released that none of us will be able to get at retail.

Nailed It lol

[franktehtank]

Originally Posted by Jmbarrack

Yes, but the Daytona also had models with Aluminum bezels. They produced them in both styles.

The Explorer II has always had a Steel bezel.

The previous generation of the Daytona bezel was only stainless steel or PM, no aluminum, you have to go way back in the catalogue to find aluminum.

So Rolex is definitely open to making a stainless steel bezel into ceramic. Whether they will do that on the explorer II remains to be seen.

I predict they won't, but I've been wrong before! Would love to see it, though.

An advantage the explorer II bezel has is that it's tough and relatively cheap to replace. I got a quote to replace and it was far less than I expected, I forget the exact number though, but quite cheap.

Perhaps for an explorers watch that's expected to get banged around, a cheap, tough SS bezel is more attractive.

[Tangier11]

I wonder if we on this forum have ever kept track of whose prediction (wild guess) have come true?

[liberalclown]

Jan 1 price increase hint that they will upgrade the movement of Exp and OP series to the 32xx series since they didn't increase them a dime. They will increase the price with the new movement.

AirKing and Milgauss may see a short hiatus since they are the slow sellers until Rolex updates them both. AirKing is an odd model, in between Milgauss and Exp, so I guess they will come up with a completely new design for that one, maybe more fliegerish style other than car gauge.

Sub may not see the movement upgrade this year, since they sell like hot cakes, and they had a a large price increase already. It doesn't make sense to increase the price twice in a year. I think the new movement will make its way to PM and maybe TT this year with slimmer but not so slim lugs, just like in GMT. And then next year the movement will be updated in SS.

EXP II is due an update, but I don't think we will see it this year, I assume they will come up with 2 new version, 40mm SS bezel and 42mm Ceramic bezel, to not to canibalize GMT but also allow over 7.5" wrist people to enjoy Ceramic bezel gmt functionality.

GMT II may see Coke Bezel, and all black, but both will be on jubilee, again not to canibalize submariner sales.

[jb335]

We won't know what is new until the day before Basel and Rolex Passion Report tells us.

[Oaker1]

Originally Posted by kauebm

I'd love to see the BB58 in other color variations.

As for Rolex, I don't know if I really care anymore.

x2; I am also very interested to see what Tudor do next with the BB58

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Tangier11

I wonder if we on this forum have ever kept track of whose prediction (wild guess) have come true?

The fail rate would be staggering.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by Tangier11

I wonder if we on this forum have ever kept track of whose prediction (wild guess) have come true?

Yup,

I nailed the 126710BLNR after seeing the 126710BLRO the year before. I saw the new BLNR coming and even said I would be buying one if it gets released for Baselworld 2019.

[vitadine]

Originally Posted by SeikoBake

A date window on the Daytona!!

For everybody who wants a Daytona with date or perhaps a bigger diameter: please look somewhere else. Other manufacturers have great bigger chronographs with date.
The Daytona is THE ultimate icon because of what it is for more then 45 years.

[MilgaussBe]

Biggest rumour that keeps popping up everywhere is an updated Submariner.
Frankly not very much interested anymore in the models and Rolex itself. I am bummed by the price increases and availability policies.
Don't think I'm ever buying one again kind of disappointed.

[Mdarula111]

My thoughts:
- Root Beer models introduced on jubilee; oyster models discontinued
- DJ36 "turn-o-graph" reintroduced to play off of the heightened demand for "sport" models
- Milgauss updated to reflect older models with rotating bezel (same rationale as above point)
- Sub updated with new movement and more tapered lugs
- Air King dial updated to no longer include 3-5-9 with a true "B" dial
- WG "Coke" GMT on oyster

[Khans14]

Not so much a prediction as a wish..... I would love to see the Datejust 41 two tone yellow gold on a jubilee bracelet with fluted bezel with a blue dial. Rolex used to do this combination back in the day. Someone on here once posted a picture of this older version in an awesome photo with it on his wrist driving an older antique-like car. The yellow gold, steel and blue dial looked so good!!!!

[JSolution]

I predict ym 40 discontinued

[Montremoi]

Originally Posted by Mdarula111

- DJ36 "turn-o-graph" reintroduced to play off of the heightened demand for "sport" models
- Milgauss updated to reflect older models with rotating bezel (same rationale as above point)
- Sub updated with new movement and more tapered lugs

All of my yes ! It'd be hard to choose which one to buy if all three were on offer

[jaisonline]

what's coming baselworld 2020?

less watchmakers attending each year.

[Brucewayne1]

Originally Posted by notchview

How about a date dial with a small hand enclosed within the 6 o clock sub dial!

[drmizzou]

why is baselworld now in May instead of late March?

[SoCal_Batman]

Originally Posted by jb335

We won't know what is new until the day before Basel and Rolex Passion Report tells us.

This !

[scrappy]

Originally Posted by Meyrin

I was just about to post almost exactly what you've done...!!

Someone posts that every year in the Baselworld prediction thread

[EndlessEight]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Yup,

I nailed the 126710BLNR after seeing the 126710BLRO the year before. I saw the new BLNR coming and even said I would be buying one if it gets released for Baselworld 2019.

Next logical deduction is the CHNR on jubilee.

[Pauln]

I’m thinking current explorer 2 reference and Tudor north flag will be discontinier.

[RHIII]

I predict it will be nothing to write home about.

Dials, bracelets maybe a Coke WG GMT...(would be better in Platinum)...why put a new movement in the Submariner? There’s nothing wrong with the current one. I could see more RG on Professionals. And probably something else to hype up that just doesn’t work out...enter the WG YM....

How about just skip the new releases and increase production by 15%

My .02


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[grimps]

Originally Posted by franktehtank

The previous generation of the Daytona bezel was only stainless steel or PM, no aluminum, you have to go way back in the catalogue to find aluminum.

So Rolex is definitely open to making a stainless steel bezel into ceramic. Whether they will do that on the explorer II remains to be seen.

I predict they won't, but I've been wrong before! Would love to see it, though.

An advantage the explorer II bezel has is that it's tough and relatively cheap to replace. I got a quote to replace and it was far less than I expected, I forget the exact number though, but quite cheap.

Perhaps for an explorers watch that's expected to get banged around, a cheap, tough SS bezel is more attractive.

A ceramic bezel is scratch proof not impact proof , I mashed my Pepsi Bezel a couple of months after getting it so I have a little bit of experience of this.
The Explorer was designed for mountains and rocks ect so a slight bump and the bezel is broken.
That being said I expect that its ben a few decades since any serious mountaineer has ever used one

[Galaga167]

Originally Posted by grimps

A ceramic bezel is scratch proof not impact proof , I mashed my Pepsi Bezel a couple of months after getting it so I have a little bit of experience of this.

The Explorer was designed for mountains and rocks ect so a slight bump and the bezel is broken.

That being said I expect that its ben a few decades since any serious mountaineer has ever used one

Now they would more than likely use a G Shock or a Garmin.

[Eric-London]

Originally Posted by ChronoSloth

I literally brought this up with my AD last week, wanting to be first on his list if it were announced. He emphatically said NO CHANCE! In his words... OysterFlex’s purpose is to keep the costs of precious metal models reasonable. It’ll never be offered on stainless steel, no matter how much sense it makes.


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Good point and completely agree.

[Eric-London]

Originally Posted by liberalclown

Jan 1 price increase hint that they will upgrade the movement of Exp and OP series to the 32xx series since they didn't increase them a dime. They will increase the price with the new movement.

AirKing and Milgauss may see a short hiatus since they are the slow sellers until Rolex updates them both. AirKing is an odd model, in between Milgauss and Exp, so I guess they will come up with a completely new design for that one, maybe more fliegerish style other than car gauge.

Sub may not see the movement upgrade this year, since they sell like hot cakes, and they had a a large price increase already. It doesn't make sense to increase the price twice in a year. I think the new movement will make its way to PM and maybe TT this year with slimmer but not so slim lugs, just like in GMT. And then next year the movement will be updated in SS.

EXP II is due an update, but I don't think we will see it this year, I assume they will come up with 2 new version, 40mm SS bezel and 42mm Ceramic bezel, to not to canibalize GMT but also allow over 7.5" wrist people to enjoy Ceramic bezel gmt functionality.

GMT II may see Coke Bezel, and all black, but both will be on jubilee, again not to canibalize submariner sales.

I see a GMT II Coke in White gold with a jubilee bracelet. This will have zero or no effect on the rest of the GMT range and will eventually make way (3-4 years later) for a steel Coke with oyster.

[Oaker1]

I see that the Baselworld 2020 predictions are starting to build momentum.

One of the suggestions that I have read several times is that the 126711 CHNR may be released on a Jubilee, with the Oyster being discontinued? If this was to happen, would the grey price for the Oyster version drop back to nearer current MSRP? Contemplating purchasing grey if close to MSRP, (been on a “list” for 8 months); and in the minority, but actually prefer the Oyster on the CHNR to mocked up photos with Jubilee bracelet.

[illiguy]

Originally Posted by Mdarula111

My thoughts:
- Root Beer models introduced on jubilee; oyster models discontinued
- DJ36 "turn-o-graph" reintroduced to play off of the heightened demand for "sport" models
- Milgauss updated to reflect older models with rotating bezel (same rationale as above point)
- Sub updated with new movement and more tapered lugs
- Air King dial updated to no longer include 3-5-9 with a true "B" dial
- WG "Coke" GMT on oyster

I’ve been wrong many times about a lot of things, but I do not understand why people think the Submariner line will get more tapered lugs any time in the foreseeable future. New movement I get, case re-design for 2020 ... no.

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by illiguy

I’ve been wrong many times about a lot of things, but I do not understand why people think the Submariner line will get more tapered lugs any time in the foreseeable future. New movement I get, case re-design for 2020 ... no.

I tho k people believe that because the Datejust and the GMT received more tapered lugs recently

[James A.]

Originally Posted by Galaga167

I’d like this:

I can't come up with any rational for why this would come out this year, but I think this looks great and I'd be interested.

Wonder if I think a release like this would make the 214270 (224270?) easier to obtain overall if there were suddenly twice as many being delivered based on twice as many dial choices? Or probably more likely would draw attention to how good the black dialed version already is and suddenly there will be all kinds of threads about Explorer wait lists at ADs and premiums at greys for both colours.