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Old 1 February 2020, 05:16 AM   #1
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I have given up on getting a ceramic daytona at MSRP. Waitlists are meaningless. These pieces only go to those with substantial purchase histories 99.999% of the time. This is my grail Rolex but I refuse to pay over MSRP or spend $50-100 thousand so that I can get preferred treatment.
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Old 1 February 2020, 05:17 AM   #2
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Old 1 February 2020, 05:18 AM   #3
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Old 1 February 2020, 05:21 AM   #4
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I’m there with you. A Daytona is actually the ONLY other Rolex I want right now, and if I can’t get that...I guess I don’t want anymore Rolex. There are a lot of good brands and watches out there.
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Old 1 February 2020, 05:22 AM   #5
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yep, they are meaningless.

There's probably hundreds of their customers that want a Daytona, so obviously when they get one it will go to someone with a better history with them.

They aren't going to shun past customers to sell it to someone off the street they don't know who may have questionable intentions (not referring to you, just in general)


It's just too bad supply can't try to catch up to demand.
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Old 1 February 2020, 05:27 AM   #6
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i may get blasted for saying this, but some of the Omega Speedy chronos are nice.
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Old 1 February 2020, 05:27 AM   #7
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i have given up on getting a ceramic daytona at msrp. Waitlists are meaningless. These pieces only go to those with substantial purchase histories 99.999% of the time. This is my grail rolex but i refuse to pay over msrp or spend $50-100 thousand so that i can get preferred treatment.
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Old 1 February 2020, 05:36 AM   #8
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Maybe one day a few years down the road we’ll look back and say “remember when everyone wanted the Daytona and it was double MSRP”?
I personally think the premium for all SS except the Daytona will go away soon. When the hype dies down it will go away fast. But what do I know?


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Old 1 February 2020, 05:38 AM   #9
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i may get blasted for saying this, but some of the Omega Speedy chronos are nice.
Sure are. I'm considering a Speedmaster Racing or Dark Side of the Moon myself.
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Old 1 February 2020, 05:42 AM   #10
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Maybe one day a few years down the road we’ll look back and say “remember when everyone wanted the Daytona and it was double MSRP”?
I personally think the premium for all SS except the Daytona will go away soon. When the hype dies down it will go away fast. But what do I know?


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100% correct, only question is how long will it take for the hype to build up again. The moral of the story is to buy what you like when you can. My AD told me about the days when he would order 10 black and 10 white Daytonas and they would arrive as per request.
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Old 1 February 2020, 05:46 AM   #11
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Here is a different perspective. I wanted a ss Daytona back in 2004... I was just a year out of college at that time and one of my manager had one. That began my search and quest for one. Same situation as today wait list was way long and grey cost a fortune. It took me 5 years to finally buy one at an AD. It was 2009 in Hawaii when me and wife were on a vacation to celebrate our engagement. Be patient and don’t give up. No one can predict the market and when the next downturn will hit, but make sure you have the funds to jump on a deal because it can happen at any time. Good luck
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Old 1 February 2020, 05:59 AM   #12
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If I were you I would look at the discontinued Daytonas 5, and 6 digit, as well as TT Daytonas......they can be had for a lot less than the DaytonaC and they are very nice, in some ways even nicer.
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Old 1 February 2020, 06:09 AM   #13
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Get a Zenith or a Speedy :)
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Old 1 February 2020, 06:53 AM   #14
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I have given up on getting a ceramic daytona at MSRP. Waitlists are meaningless. These pieces only go to those with substantial purchase histories 99.999% of the time. This is my grail Rolex but I refuse to pay over MSRP or spend $50-100 thousand so that I can get preferred treatment.
Definitely, better to move on
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Old 1 February 2020, 06:56 AM   #15
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I have given up on getting a ceramic daytona at MSRP. Waitlists are meaningless. These pieces only go to those with substantial purchase histories 99.999% of the time. This is my grail Rolex but I refuse to pay over MSRP or spend $50-100 thousand so that I can get preferred treatment.
Settle in. Took me 14 years to get a ss Daytona, once I got it, realized it was not for me anyway. The wait and the hunt were more fun then having it on my wrist.
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Old 1 February 2020, 06:57 AM   #16
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If I were you I would look at the discontinued Daytonas 5, and 6 digit, as well as TT Daytonas......they can be had for a lot less than the DaytonaC and they are very nice, in some ways even nicer.
That's probably my second favorite Rolex TT (after the Rootbeer of course )
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Old 1 February 2020, 07:00 AM   #17
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Yes, other chronos out there.....
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Old 1 February 2020, 07:20 AM   #18
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I’m with you on not paying a penny over retail price, however, I’m not smith you on waiting a Daytona, I don’t like it at all, any chronograph in fact.

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I have given up on getting a ceramic daytona at MSRP. Waitlists are meaningless. These pieces only go to those with substantial purchase histories 99.999% of the time. This is my grail Rolex but I refuse to pay over MSRP or spend $50-100 thousand so that I can get preferred treatment.
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Old 1 February 2020, 07:25 AM   #19
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While I hate the current situation, just wait and be patient.

Rolex are not worth paying crazy prices for, like the 116520. While it is getting very hard to find a nice unpolished one with box and papers, it was never a rare watch. There is literally over 1,000 for sale on Chrono24. Still, people want crazy prices.

Just hang in there. And don't fret, it is just a watch, there are more important things in life (as we all know)
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Old 1 February 2020, 07:46 AM   #20
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I too have been lusting after this piece but shifted gears and have a deposit on the first Omega 321 my AD gets!
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Old 1 February 2020, 07:50 AM   #21
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These pieces only go to those with substantial purchase histories 99.999% of the time.
Guess I'm in the .001%. My three purchases from my AD have been BLNR, BLRO, and Daytona. Keep looking.
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Guess I'm in the .001%. My three purchases from my AD have been BLNR, BLRO, and Daytona. Keep looking.

So what you are saying is that these are easy to get and you don’t know what everyone is talking about?


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If I could buy a Daytona today at MSRP, then after owning it for some time I decide to sell it and market price is greater than retail, I would be ecstatic. If I buy a Daytona today at market price, and then after owning it for some time I decide to sell it and market price is at or above what I paid for it then I would be ecstatic. I would just buy one today if that's something I really wanted in my life. If you're young you can wait. When you're older and the movies half over, then I need it now and I'm wearing it everyday until I get tired of it.
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Old 1 February 2020, 08:24 AM   #24
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Sound decision, OP.
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Old 1 February 2020, 08:34 AM   #25
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These watches are readily available. There is no supply problem. You may not be able to get any SS models at MSRP but many can. Alot then choose to flip.

Supply is readily available to anyone with the money to pay. If you choose not to pay over MSRP, that is fine and your decision.

Just because you (collective you) cannot buy at MSRP doesnt mean there is a suppy problem.
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These watches are readily available. There is no supply problem. You may not be able to get any SS models at MSRP but many can. Alot then choose to flip.

Supply is readily available to anyone with the money to pay.
I can get many SS at MSRP, but not the Daytona. The Daytona is not readily available. I have the money and am ready to pay... but there is no "readily available" supply of Daytonas at MSRP.
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Just because you (collective you) cannot buy at MSRP doesnt mean there is a suppy problem.
But there sure as hell is a demand problem. If you (the non-collective, singular you) can get an SS ceramic daytona at MSRP in a year I'll eat my hat.
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Old 1 February 2020, 08:48 AM   #28
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Again, just because you cannot get models at MSRP does not mean there is a supply problem.

You can buy all these models shipped to your door in 24 hours. You will just have to pay over MSRP.

Most of the models at MSRP have been sold to customers, flippers, and some in the safe waiting for VIPs.

Yes, demand is pretty high for MSRP because many want to sell for profit. Unfortunately that hurts the regular collector who wants to buy to keep and wear.
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Again, just because you cannot get models at MSRP does not mean there is a supply problem.

You can buy all these models shipped to your door in 24 hours. You will just have to pay over MSRP.

Most of the models at MSRP have been sold to customers, flippers, and some in the safe waiting for VIPs.

Yes, demand is pretty high for MSRP because many want to sell for profit. Unfortunately that hurts the regular collector who wants to buy to keep and wear.
... have you been reading this thread? I never said there’s a supply problem. My whole point of posting was to say that it’s impossible to get an SS Daytona at MSRP and I’m not paying the ridiculous grey prices. I don’t see the point of your posts. Thanks for contributing though and have a good rest of your afternoon.
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Again, just because you cannot get models at MSRP does not mean there is a supply problem.

You can buy all these models shipped to your door in 24 hours. You will just have to pay over MSRP.

Most of the models at MSRP have been sold to customers, flippers, and some in the safe waiting for VIPs.

Yes, demand is pretty high for MSRP because many want to sell for profit. Unfortunately that hurts the regular collector who wants to buy to keep and wear.
Yes. In the current world, MSRP is better described as a discount on fair market value. Not everyone gets the discount, but anyone could get the watch if they are truly willing.
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