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Old 24 May 2021, 05:11 AM   #1
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Is the 18k green Tudor Black Bay 58 a poor purchase?

I kind of dig this watch but it's really expensive for a Tudor. Curious if I should pursue it?

Pros:
1. Green
2. 18k gold
3. '58 case

Cons:
1. No metal bracelet
2. Resale is garbage
3. No date

Rolex offers nothing even close to this. There is no green professional model that's solid gold that can actually be obtained these days. Am I making a mistake if I go for it?
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Old 24 May 2021, 05:14 AM   #2
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There’s actually the “John Mayer” Daytona which is full gold with green dial but that’s apparently really hard to get as is most Rolex sports models. However, the only mistake will be getting a watch that you truly don’t want, especially for what the Tudor will be costing you. I would check it out in the flesh first if you can, see if it speaks to you.
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Old 24 May 2021, 05:19 AM   #3
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If you like the watch, it's great to own and wear what you like. If your getting it just because you can, maybe not the best idea.
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Old 24 May 2021, 05:39 AM   #4
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apart from enjoying the watch based on its merits, which im sure has many, it will surely not be a watch many will purchase. That could be a good thing many years to come but it may mean nothing...who knows. Get it if you love it, otherwise don't.
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Old 24 May 2021, 05:39 AM   #5
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If it’s the watch that you want as opposed to something else and it’s time for another then Yes, it’s a good purchase.

Speculative purchase as a hopeful flip then No, thet would be a poor purchase
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Old 24 May 2021, 05:40 AM   #6
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I kind of dig this watch but it's really expensive for a Tudor. Curious if I should pursue it?

Pros:
1. Green
2. 18k gold
3. '58 case

Cons:
1. No metal bracelet
2. Resale is garbage
3. No date

Rolex offers nothing even close to this. There is no green professional model that's solid gold that can actually be obtained these days. Am I making a mistake if I go for it?
No.

If you genuinely like it.
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Old 24 May 2021, 05:52 AM   #7
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It’s a personal preference, but for that amount of money, there are dozens and dozens of watches I’d choose over that.


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Old 24 May 2021, 06:14 AM   #8
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If you really don't like it, don't buy it. Resale value is a poor reason not to buy something.
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Old 24 May 2021, 06:20 AM   #9
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If you like it go for it. I find it disturbing that there’s so much talk about resale value in watch collecting these days. To be honest, if you’re basing your watch purchase on whether it will hold or increase in value, you aren’t in the place where you should be buying it in the first place. Watches are meant to be worn and enjoyed, not invested in. Can’t fathom the amount of people who are looking at watches as investments.
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Old 24 May 2021, 06:28 AM   #10
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If you love it, go for it.....but let’s not totally ignore the resale aspect, as we are watch people and we change our minds.

It’s never my first consideration, but I have learned to respect the resale aspect as it gives me options if I get bored down the line.

That being said, I’d pass hard and fast on a gold Tudor.


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Old 24 May 2021, 06:35 AM   #11
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I see it sitting in the case every day when I walk past. I have no desire to buy it.
Maybe I am just not appreciating something. Sometimes we look for undervalued things and trends that the world has not woken up to yet, I'm not convinced the gold BB58 is one of those things. If it becomes scarce then it will.
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Old 24 May 2021, 06:37 AM   #12
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Is there already a resale value. Didn't it just come out weeks ago?
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Old 24 May 2021, 07:35 AM   #13
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It's a poor purchase only if you don't like it
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Old 24 May 2021, 07:55 AM   #14
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If your looking for guidance IMHO its a very poor purchase, think what £ 13k can buy today in Top notch watch brands, to spend that money on a Tudor is lunacy.
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Old 24 May 2021, 08:10 AM   #15
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I like the look - but it is expensive for what it is,,,


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Old 24 May 2021, 08:41 AM   #16
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It's the first real "luxury watch" from Tudor and if you don't have to think about resale values and you love it, why not? ;)
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Old 24 May 2021, 09:37 AM   #17
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If your looking for guidance IMHO its a very poor purchase, think what £ 13k can buy today in Top notch watch brands, to spend that money on a Tudor is lunacy.
As opposed to what, $40-50k for a PM Rolex?
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Old 24 May 2021, 09:52 AM   #18
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What do you mean by poor purchase? While I’ve heard some say for the same price there are other pieces they’d rather go for, my view is that this is a very interesting piece that fits in well with Tudor’s motto “born to dare”.

Tudor is clearly trying to move up the ranks as a luxury piece and I think this piece is a step in the right direction.

That being said, I agree with you that the lack of a bracelet is one of the key downsides of this piece, as is the case for the silver version as well.
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Old 24 May 2021, 11:02 AM   #19
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It look gorgeous, love the color combination here.
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Old 24 May 2021, 11:07 AM   #20
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I think the question is whether it would enjoy significant wrist time.

This is the only issue for me when it comes to considering a gold watch.

If you think you'd wear it regularly, then go for it. It's a unique watch that looks great IMHO.
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Old 24 May 2021, 11:13 AM   #21
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If it had a solid gold bracelet, even with fake rivets and priced 5k more, I would buy it
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Old 24 May 2021, 01:41 PM   #22
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The price is insanely high, who is paying more than 4K for a Tudor?

The fact that they gave the ugly movement a display back to use less gold in the case is not cool as well.
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Old 24 May 2021, 01:59 PM   #23
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I like the watch. The price is subjective.

If I was more stacked, I'd buy one. :)
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Old 24 May 2021, 02:01 PM   #24
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Think of all the horologically interesting JLCs you could buy for that money...

And my OCD would not let me buy a green watch called Black Bay.
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Old 24 May 2021, 02:09 PM   #25
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100% pass beyond only buying the watch because you like it.

Also clear caseback on such an industrial movement is a tad tacky.

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Old 24 May 2021, 02:14 PM   #26
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the main problem with this watch is the display back, the movement is painful to look at. you can get a used Lange saxonia in this price range, also full gold and not to mention the gorgeous movement.


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Old 24 May 2021, 03:56 PM   #27
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A lot of watches like the Hulk were not popular in the beginning. I could see this one being very rare in the future as there will be low volume sale.
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Old 24 May 2021, 04:02 PM   #28
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A lot of watches like the Hulk were not popular in the beginning. I could see this one being very rare in the future as there will be low volume sale.
Maybe, maybe not.
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Old 24 May 2021, 07:14 PM   #29
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Can you point me in the direction of another gold case diver at this price point with a reliable movement with the back up of Tudor after service.. Not possible.

This watch is a killer move. Yes you can compare but it’s apples and pears.
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Old 24 May 2021, 07:42 PM   #30
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If you like it, then it's a good idea : if you don't like it, then it's not a good idea... it's as simple as that really.

It's a solid gold watch with an in-house movement, from a decent brand for fairly reasonable money. Yes there's more "horologically interesting" pieces out there for the money, but they won't be in a gold case at that price.

The whole "resale value" thing to me is like going into a marriage expecting to get divorced. If you only buy watches on the basis of what you'll potentially get for it IF you ever sell it, then you'll just end up with a collection of generic stuff that other people like. There'll be no passion and therefore no real enjoyment... and at the end of the day this hobby is about luxury nonsense that no-one really needs any more, so personal enjoyment should be the only driving force IMO. It should be entirely about enjoying the moment, and buying and wearing what YOU feel passionate about.

Maybe it's because I've been into watches long before all the current craziness, and maybe it's because I'm into other brands other than just Rolex (where you never consider future values), but for me any watch purchase is a sunk cost - money spent on a hobby I enjoy, never to be seen again. It's much more liberating that way.
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