engraved serial number

[oscarmariner]

Hi everyone,

I don't have better picts, but I'd like to have your opinion on this engraved serial number. Genuine or rewritten??

thank you so much

[1William]

It does not look right.

[alwayshere]

Originally Posted by oscarmariner

Hi everyone,

I don't have better picts, but I'd like to have your opinion on this engraved serial number. Genuine or rewritten??

thank you so much

there has been a history of misaligned serial / lug engravings by Rolex but I think this might be pushing it....

[1665fan]

The 5 looks horrible I’m going fake

[zapokee]

Dunno. I've seen genuine vintage Rolexes and Tudors with very poorly engraved serial numbers. Quality control wasn't what it is today.

The serial number engraving isn't the best way to tell whether it's genuine or not. Need close-up pics of the whole watch.

[TheDude]

The 8 looks pretty awful too. There is certainly some iffy looking genuine engraving but nothing that’s this bad…


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[swish77]

Looks questionable, but as mentioned above these old engravings can be sloppy sometimes. I would use this as just one clue while evaluating the entire case/watch.

[offrdmania]

Very common on an older watch. The engraving back then werent as precise as they are today.

[springer]

I don't see any issues with the case engraving. The pantograph engraver was not a perfect engraving machine.

Here are some examples for comparison.

[Dr.Smellody]

Originally Posted by springer

I don't see any issues with the case engraving. The pantograph engraver was not a perfect engraving machine.

Here are some examples for comparison.

What a helpful and informative response. It looked find to me, but nice to see all these comparable examples.

[Ronnyrolex125]

Looks fake thou

[swish77]

I'd still like to see a better, clearer photo of the entire engraving on the OP's example. It might be fine, but if I were considering buying this watch, I'd insist on a better photo to fully evaluate, more like the great photos Springer posted.

[oscarmariner]

Hi everyone. Thanks for all your comment. I asked fro better pictures. The watch is a GMT from 1982, just to give an additional detail.

[baumare]

I can't comment on originality but one of the photo posted by Springer have only few hundred numbers of difference from the opener, and is a GMT!
I'll say that it really looks like the same hand/pantograph

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[zapokee]

Originally Posted by baumare

I can't comment on originality but one of the photo posted by Springer have only few hundred numbers of difference from the opener, and is a GMT!
I'll say that it really looks like the same hand/pantograph

Gosh, well spotted. Springer's engraving defects are *exactly* the same as the OP's. Must have been the same engraving machinery.

[oscarmariner]

new picture. it sounds good to me even if it looks odd

[swaini3]

The 5's and 8's are usually the ones that give doubts ... heres another sloppy 8.

[alwayshere]

wow... ignore my earlier post! noted this GMT phenomenon

[Chris75]

It looks absolutely fine too me: to ugly not to be good.

[Thuilln]

Originally Posted by baumare

I can't comment on originality but one of the photo posted by Springer have only few hundred numbers of difference from the opener, and is a GMT!
I'll say that it really looks like the same hand/pantograph

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I noticed that too.. probably the same person.

[oscar7610]

Originally Posted by oscarmariner

Hi everyone,

I don't have better picts, but I'd like to have your opinion on this engraved serial number. Genuine or rewritten??

thank you so much

it is not Fake like everyone here is saying! Todays Rolex replicas use a laser engraving machine to do the job. Back then Genuine Rolex engraving was done manually by hand meaning every genuine Rolex serial number was different on every model.
Back then, Genuine Rolex serial number engraving was far from perfect because it was done by hand and if you would compare two new genuine models back then ( lets say 1980-1990 ) you would find out that both watches had different text alignments.

[Pocosso]

To me is good.

[Filipão]

One can't fake that original sloppiness!

Perfect engravings, rest assured.

[springer]

Originally Posted by oscar7610

it is not Fake like everyone here is saying! Todays Rolex replicas use a laser engraving machine to do the job. Back then Genuine Rolex engraving was done manually by hand meaning every genuine Rolex serial number was different on every model.
Back then, Genuine Rolex serial number engraving was far from perfect because it was done by hand and if you would compare two new genuine models back then ( lets say 1980-1990 ) you would find out that both watches had different text alignments.

A small correction here if I may.

Not all counterfeit watches use laser engraving for serial and/or model numbers. The counterfeiters have become artists and engrave fakes as close to the original fonts as possible.

My experience has been that laser engraved watches are normally very amateurish.