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Old 24 August 2022, 05:39 AM   #31
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I like the idea of the AirKing.

Have you had the opportunity to try one on? That's the most important thing you can do. You'll know immediately if it's the right one or not.
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Old 24 August 2022, 05:57 AM   #32
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I take my hat off to you, andWatson2! You´ve had a rough time, but you picked yourself up off the floor and got on with life, without moaning and groaning and expecting someone else to help you. And selling up and moving across country and starting afresh takes a lot of guts, imho! And on top of it all the stress of a divorce. Bravo! About a new watch...I´d go for the Speedy Moonwatch with hesalite crystal, as I don´t like the saphire sandwich models. But enjoy whatever you buy, and keep your Sub! Good luck to you!

Thanks Meyrin. Having guts doesn’t always look pretty or feel good but falling and failing forward is the goal. Things eventually work out the way they are supposed to. Surprisingly so…
Speedy Moonwatch appears to be the hands down endorsement from the members here—really making me wanna go that route.
Sub will be kept, worn and cherished for sure!
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Old 24 August 2022, 05:57 AM   #33
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I would steer clear of the Panerai. I think the Speedmaster professional would be a solid choice. JMHO

Interesting. Thanks for the heads up


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Old 24 August 2022, 06:02 AM   #34
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Maybe a piece with some color? Your collection is nice though very monochromatic. But get whatever sings to you!

I love some of the watches coming out in bronze—partial to a green dials with that metal…so many beautiful pieces out there.
But black is so classic and goes with everything…I do fear redundancy though.

I should add that eventually, when I really make it, I’ll go for a Platinum (ice blue fluted) DD40 as my grail…that color slays me!

If anyone has that reference, please post pics!


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Old 24 August 2022, 06:07 AM   #35
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I like the idea of the AirKing.

Have you had the opportunity to try one on? That's the most important thing you can do. You'll know immediately if it's the right one or not.

I do too. I love the history and nod to the golden age of aviation. Love the green accents and that AK’s are missing from most collections. Under the radar and ‘different’. It’s been my leading option (along with Speedy moon) for a long time…like sticks in my head and I keep going back to it. But the more options I see, the deeper I get down the rabbit hole, the harder the decision gets! FML! First world problems

I hope the AD reaches out with an opportunity to try one on in the coming days. I know I will know if it’s right. Thank you!


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Old 24 August 2022, 06:10 AM   #36
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Happy Birthday!! Best of luck to you on your move and new venture. If you could score a Pepsi via an AD that would be my choice. Keep us posted.
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Old 24 August 2022, 06:11 AM   #37
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Agree - perhaps get a timepiece with some color, which speaks to the 'colorful' positive changes in your life! The Pepsi GMT would be quite the statement piece.

Agreed—how about the new GMT (LH, green and black)…dang!


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Old 24 August 2022, 06:12 AM   #38
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Happy Birthday!! Best of luck to you on your move and new venture. If you could score a Pepsi via an AD that would be my choice. Keep us posted.

Yes. I will keep you posted…seems like an opportunity not to pass up, right?


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Old 24 August 2022, 08:00 AM   #39
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Well you certainly can't go wrong with a Speedy for all the reasons you mentioned

Beyond the rich history of the watch, they are offer super legibility as compared to the other famous chronograph. I LOVE my 321 indeed. It may have been the best watch buying decision I've ever made, and I don't think that's just the honeymoon taking

Panerai is a whole different wearing experience but equally as rewarding. I went with the Radiomir for its simplicity and it indeed wears very comfortably for a 47mm watch. The dial on this 690 is just a joy to look at. It never gets old and is a real chameleon



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Old 24 August 2022, 08:40 AM   #41
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I love that you gifted your brother your Sinn when you could probably least afford it. It's the greatest we can ever do with a watch we love.

That being said.....

Fresh start...I would add some color to your collection to symbolize the new path. BLRO, DJ with a blue dial, or an LV Sub...

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Old 24 August 2022, 09:43 AM   #42
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Great attitude OP.

After reading your story, I can’t help but to suggest what might be an unpopular opinion…to not buy anything at all.

Instead, I would continue to wear your most cherished possession (best sub ref imo) and keep letting it remind you to keep pushing forward while saving for your ultimate goal…..and I would make that goal the purchase of your platinum DD.

Good luck with your decision either way
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Old 24 August 2022, 12:43 PM   #43
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Old 24 August 2022, 01:04 PM   #44
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I do too. I love the history and nod to the golden age of aviation. Love the green accents and that AK’s are missing from most collections. Under the radar and ‘different’. It’s been my leading option (along with Speedy moon) for a long time…like sticks in my head and I keep going back to it. But the more options I see, the deeper I get down the rabbit hole, the harder the decision gets! FML! First world problems

I hope the AD reaches out with an opportunity to try one on in the coming days. I know I will know if it’s right. Thank you!


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Tourneau in Vegas has a display unit

Perhaps Tourneau or WoS in NYC or Chicago does as well?
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I love that you gifted your brother your Sinn when you could probably least afford it. It's the greatest we can ever do with a watch we love.

That being said.....

Fresh start...I would add some color to your collection to symbolize the new path. BLRO, DJ with a blue dial, or an LV Sub...

Good luck!

Yeah. It was tough, but the right thing to do…He mentioned he was looking for a ‘nice’ watch and had no idea where to start—I gave him a little education on the basics and then offered him my Sinn—he was blown away. I have a hard time being generous with ‘things’ but it felt so good to show my gratitude by gifting something beautiful…he loves it.

I will wait to see what the sales associate is able to scrounge up and offer…color is a good idea and I appreciate the symbolism of some color.
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Old 24 August 2022, 02:09 PM   #46
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Great attitude OP.

After reading your story, I can’t help but to suggest what might be an unpopular opinion…to not buy anything at all.

Instead, I would continue to wear your most cherished possession (best sub ref imo) and keep letting it remind you to keep pushing forward while saving for your ultimate goal…..and I would make that goal the purchase of your platinum DD.

Good luck with your decision either way

Thanks Kenny—I appreciate that perspective. It makes sense. I agree, but also have a feeling of ‘heaviness’ associated behind the joy of my Sub. Kind of like a bookend in one part of life—something new and (slightly affordable) with a nod to the skies feels aspirational and symbolic in a new direction.
The Platinum DD seems SO aggressive to strive for, but I love to imagine the possibility of affording it and just carrying on! Thank you!


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Thanks Krash—seems unanimous.


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Tourneau in Vegas has a display unit

Perhaps Tourneau or WoS in NYC or Chicago does as well?

Nice. For now, betting in Boulder coming through…


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Old 24 August 2022, 02:36 PM   #49
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If there’s something limited you like I’d seriously consider it. I’ve learned the hard way. Just bought a Speedmaster FOIS for 1k more than they were going for a few years ago. Speedmaster 3861 just came out. You’ll be able to get it for years to come. Plus Omega is a brand you’d usually be able to get a good discount on but most ad’s are getting msrp on the new 3861’s so they’re not open to bargaining much. Plus I know you like it but it feels like you’re being talked into it.

From your comment that you like bronze with green faces, makes me think if IWC. Have you checked out their pilots line? Just got a Portuguieser a few months ago. They make some quality pieces. Great warranty too. 8 years now.
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Old 24 August 2022, 11:18 PM   #50
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If there’s something limited you like I’d seriously consider it. I’ve learned the hard way. Just bought a Speedmaster FOIS for 1k more than they were going for a few years ago. Speedmaster 3861 just came out. You’ll be able to get it for years to come. Plus Omega is a brand you’d usually be able to get a good discount on but most ad’s are getting msrp on the new 3861’s so they’re not open to bargaining much. Plus I know you like it but it feels like you’re being talked into it.

From your comment that you like bronze with green faces, makes me think if IWC. Have you checked out their pilots line? Just got a Portuguieser a few months ago. They make some quality pieces. Great warranty too. 8 years now.

Thanks RFA—I agree with you. The chance to get something at retail from AD seems to be the move. The Speedy will always be there, and I like the idea of getting it at discount once the 3861 has been around awhile. I do love the classic reference, history and aesthetics—don’t love the manual wind or 5BAR water resistance. Outside of that, it’s always been one of my highest considered choices if I were to ever expand into a collection.
I’ve looked at the IWC. They are beautiful and I like the Big Pilot and a few others, but maybe looking for a more robust daily wearer with a slightly less formal look. I work in restaurants. Things get dirty, knocked and wet


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Old 24 August 2022, 11:52 PM   #51
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I would go with the Speedy. I have the 1861 version and the manual wind isn't bad once you're used to it. The Speedy is an excellent compliment to the Sub. Only nitpick I have with the Speedy is that the crown is a little too small.

The BLRO is also an excellent choice, but you may not be able to get it for your 40th unless you go grey. Perhaps you could set your sights on the BLRO for your 50th, or another special occasion?
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Hey all—I’m turning 40 in the next few days, looking to add another watch to my small and humble collection.
I bought my first ‘real’ watch (Sinn 104 white) back in late 2019 while impatiently waiting for my Submariner 114060 to celebrate some major life goals…then, bought a Sinn 104 black matte a month or so later. Loved my Sinn twins. Great MN AD sold me my Sub in Feb’ 2020 and I’ve almost never taken it off in nearly 3 years. It brings me so much joy and satisfaction in a daily basis. I absolutely love it and it’s my favorite possession.
Life handed me a ton of challenges shortly after acquiring my Sub—2020 &2021 were a real bi*#$
in all the possible ways life can be a bi*#$. Sold my business, sold my house/classic truck and most of my belongings, divorce, and moved across the country for a fresh start in a new place. No sympathy, not a victim, just facts.

Gifted my oldest brother his first ‘real’ watch, my Sinn 104 black w/ matte for being a huge supporter and help in it all—he loves it.

Throughout it all, my Rolex reminds me daily of my accomplishments, successes, and lucky lot (blessings) in life.
After a great deal of patience and perseverance, things are turning around. I have a wonderful new business venture on the horizons, great new friends and turning 40 and moving on. Time to celebrate.
So: walked into new AD to inquire about updated Air King availability and talk watches. Sales associate was fantastic and basically implied that many SS sports models could be a ‘reality’ and ‘doable.’ I put my name down for a couple models, including AK, Milgaus blue, and Pepsi on jubilee…
I’m wondering if I am falling out of love with the original idea of the new AK (despite fantastic updates) and am considering some beautiful alternatives—budget is <$10k.

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What would you all add to the mix:






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The new Air-King is great, I tried one on a few months ago...but also can not go wrong with a classic Speedmaster (added bonus of no wait time for the speedy)
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