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Omegapilot-90 · 23 September 2022, 07:06 PM

Hello,

I've been looking for a vintage Rolex Air King 5500 (preferably with the rare 3-6-9 dial) for a long time.

Unfortunately, the market here is a real minefield and the last suitable offer was snatched from under my nose.

Now it's my turn on another watch from Hong Kong. Could someone from the Rolex vintage experts give me some advice here? Does the watch look real or is it clearly fake? The dealer is friendly and tries hard. However, it is a private purchase and the price seems almost a bit too low to me.
I'm particularly afraid that it could be a "franken watch". I have no information about the reference number (apart from the year of manufacture 1968). Does this match the model (3-6-9 dial)?

Thank you and best regards!

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TuRo · 23 September 2022, 07:20 PM

If it has an Explorer 3,6,9 dial then 80-90% of the value will be in the dial/handset - many, many are repainted or fakes. Good dial photos please.

Omegapilot-90 · 23 September 2022, 07:36 PM

Unfortunately I can't upload the photos due to the size. I can't upload a link either. Is there any other option?

Omegapilot-90 · 23 September 2022, 07:39 PM

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It is the second one.

Mark020 · 23 September 2022, 09:13 PM

This one?

Omegapilot-90 · 23 September 2022, 09:16 PM

Yes, thank you Mark :-)

offrdmania · 23 September 2022, 11:19 PM

The value is in that dial, it looks like original paint and lume plots. Very rare to find a dial from this era in this condition.

TuRo · 23 September 2022, 11:41 PM

Watch dial looks good.

It's the valuable £6 to 8k black explorer style that get faked a lot.

This is as Matt says a lovely condition dial for its year - it should be a post 62 eg 1963 onwards watch btw.

Still a premium on a ivory or white explorer style over baton dial, but not so big. Correct 1520 Calibre looks fine from a quick peep.

Check the engravings between lugs for serial number and model number post up before you buy if thinking of purchasing it.

You say it's too cheap - care to share the ballpark fig with us?

Best Rgds Paul

Omegapilot-90 · 24 September 2022, 12:02 AM

Thanks for your reply Matt!
Yes.... the 369 is very rare and quiet expensive in Europe. The problem is that I can't find any information regarding the serial number. As you can see it is 1723789 and from 1968. I'm not sure if the dial fits to this.
The Seller asks for 3500 Dollar.

Filipão · 24 September 2022, 02:41 AM

Age teach us many things, or better, opens up our mind and taste evolves. These kinds of dials have grown on me!

I love that dial.

rootbeer7 · 24 September 2022, 05:35 AM

Additionally if a private sale, ask for pictures set at specific time & WhatsApp video call to see watch & some form of ID

Omegapilot-90 · 25 September 2022, 02:08 AM

He already sent me a video of the clockwork.

Do you think the serial number or the stamping is authentic?

Does anyone here know a reputable person in Hong Kong who would pick up the watch?
Otherwise, all that remains is to transfer money and take the risk.

23 September 2022, 07:06 PM	#1
Omegapilot-90 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Germany Posts: 6	Rolex Air King 5500 with 369 dial Hello, I've been looking for a vintage Rolex Air King 5500 (preferably with the rare 3-6-9 dial) for a long time. Unfortunately, the market here is a real minefield and the last suitable offer was snatched from under my nose. Now it's my turn on another watch from Hong Kong. Could someone from the Rolex vintage experts give me some advice here? Does the watch look real or is it clearly fake? The dealer is friendly and tries hard. However, it is a private purchase and the price seems almost a bit too low to me. I'm particularly afraid that it could be a "franken watch". I have no information about the reference number (apart from the year of manufacture 1968). Does this match the model (3-6-9 dial)? Thank you and best regards! CA392EB3-300D-4700-AC63-5CD9CE693B49.JPG EB0B2CA0-3215-404B-8F2C-7058F9EFFA14.JPG FB865656-695E-4108-8175-5A3A78401C69.JPG

23 September 2022, 07:20 PM	#2
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,813	If it has an Explorer 3,6,9 dial then 80-90% of the value will be in the dial/handset - many, many are repainted or fakes. Good dial photos please. __________________ Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs. IT BITES - Yellow Christian

23 September 2022, 11:19 PM	#7
offrdmania 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,993	The value is in that dial, it looks like original paint and lume plots. Very rare to find a dial from this era in this condition. __________________ TRF Member 11738

23 September 2022, 11:41 PM	#8
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,813	Watch dial looks good. It's the valuable £6 to 8k black explorer style that get faked a lot. This is as Matt says a lovely condition dial for its year - it should be a post 62 eg 1963 onwards watch btw. Still a premium on a ivory or white explorer style over baton dial, but not so big. Correct 1520 Calibre looks fine from a quick peep. Check the engravings between lugs for serial number and model number post up before you buy if thinking of purchasing it. You say it's too cheap - care to share the ballpark fig with us? Best Rgds Paul __________________ Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs. IT BITES - Yellow Christian

24 September 2022, 05:35 AM	#11
rootbeer7 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: london Posts: 6,145	Additionally if a private sale, ask for pictures set at specific time & WhatsApp video call to see watch & some form of ID __________________ @imrootbeer7

23 September 2022, 07:36 PM	#3
Omegapilot-90 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Germany Posts: 6	Unfortunately I can't upload the photos due to the size. I can't upload a link either. Is there any other option?

23 September 2022, 07:39 PM	#4
Omegapilot-90 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Germany Posts: 6	h ttps://uhrforum.d e/threads/rolex-air-king-5500-mit-3-6-9-dial.517847/#post-7452878 It is the second one.

23 September 2022, 09:13 PM	#5
Mark020 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 2,132	This one?

23 September 2022, 09:16 PM	#6
Omegapilot-90 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Germany Posts: 6	Yes, thank you Mark :-)

24 September 2022, 12:02 AM	#9
Omegapilot-90 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Germany Posts: 6	Thanks for your reply Matt! Yes.... the 369 is very rare and quiet expensive in Europe. The problem is that I can't find any information regarding the serial number. As you can see it is 1723789 and from 1968. I'm not sure if the dial fits to this. The Seller asks for 3500 Dollar.

24 September 2022, 02:41 AM	#10
Filipão "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Filipe Location: Lisbon & Wadesdah Watch: Never too many Posts: 1,898	Age teach us many things, or better, opens up our mind and taste evolves. These kinds of dials have grown on me! I love that dial.

25 September 2022, 02:08 AM	#12
Omegapilot-90 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Germany Posts: 6	He already sent me a video of the clockwork. Do you think the serial number or the stamping is authentic? Does anyone here know a reputable person in Hong Kong who would pick up the watch? Otherwise, all that remains is to transfer money and take the risk.

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