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AP15407st_patrick · 20 March 2024, 01:11 AM

Hi,
i would need your support and would be glad if you can help me out. I am fortunate enough to own the 15407st and the 5980/1r. Both watches are nearly like new although the Patek was only worn once. I am currently considering to sell one watch due to other investments.
I would wear the one i keep just for very special occassion so not as a daily driver.
What is now really interesting to me is which model would you think scratches more and easier? Which model gets easier micro scratches and the most important topic is on which pieces would more be visible. I read a few statements saying both pieces are scratch magnets but on the 15407st scratches would not bother so much due to the dial that keeps the attention. I am not so sure as the micro scratches I already have on my piece are really annoying. Are there any collectors here with rose gold pateks and able to share a few pics of there pieces? I was also told that the rose gold get can discolored over the time. Is this true? Thank you so much for all your support

uniqueMR · 20 March 2024, 02:14 AM

By looking at your profile name, just keep AP 15407ST :)
You won't any issues mentioned..

mickyd329 · 20 March 2024, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by uniqueMR

By looking at your profile name, just keep AP 15407ST :)
You won't any issues mentioned..

LOL. I was just going to say that.

Vipes · 20 March 2024, 03:31 AM

If the keeper is a special occasion watch then I wouldn’t worry too much about scratches. I’ve seen pics of RG Patek with discoloration over time.
I would keep the AP since it is more unique.

AP15407st_patrick · 20 March 2024, 04:44 AM

The only issue I have with my AP is the huge gap between the bracelet and my arm when I stretch my hand like you can see on the picture. Is this just normal. My wrist is around 17-17.4 cm.

Vince_76 · 20 March 2024, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by uniqueMR

By looking at your profile name, just keep AP 15407ST :)
You won't any issues mentioned..

Ha!

I prefer the 15407st aesthetically and think it’s more versatile. Also rose gold will scratch easier than stainless steel, so I’d say with the patek you’d accumulate more scratches.

Regarding your bracelet fit. Have you ever tried removing the link or even having a 1.5 link?

AP15407st_patrick · 20 March 2024, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince_76

Ha!

I prefer the 15407st aesthetically and think it’s more versatile. Also rose gold will scratch easier than stainless steel, so I’d say with the patek you’d accumulate more scratches.

Regarding your bracelet fit. Have you ever tried removing the link or even having a 1.5 link?

Thanks
I have had 1 link of years ago but thought it was too tight. It’s almost two years ago so maybe I should change it again and see how it fits. Honestly I like the AP a lot but the 5980 is also extremely nice but maybe not with scratches or discoloration.

fsprow · 21 March 2024, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AP15407st_patrick

The only issue I have with my AP is the huge gap between the bracelet and my arm when I stretch my hand like you can see on the picture. Is this just normal. My wrist is around 17-17.4 cm.

Watch seems way too big for your wrist.

AP15407st_patrick · 21 March 2024, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fsprow

Watch seems way too big for your wrist.

Think I need to remove two links. My wrist is 17.2 cm so usually totally fine for 41mm APs.

AP15407st_patrick · 21 March 2024, 05:56 AM

Same wrist but with 1 link less

l_chissle · 21 March 2024, 05:30 PM

I think you just need a 1.5 link

AK797 · 21 March 2024, 10:13 PM

I've had the 5711R for nearly 9 years now and there is no discolouration, I have a few marks on the bezel so it does mark up easily as I wear it sparingly, but it doesn't really affect how I view the watch and a quick turn and change of light and they all disappear, besides you can send in to PP for a polish every 3/4 years if marks do bother you.

johnsonsxusfrt · 22 March 2024, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by fsprow

Watch seems way too big for your wrist.

No, the bracelet is too loose. He needs to remove a link or 2.

fsprow · 22 March 2024, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by johnsonsxusfrt

No, the bracelet is too loose. He needs to remove a link or 2.

Tastes differ. As it should be.

AP15407st_patrick · 22 March 2024, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fsprow

Tastes differ. As it should be.

That’s true but if I am not able to wear a 41mm AP with a wrist of around 17-17,5 cm who should be able to do especially when the European average is 16,8 cm

Calatrava r · 22 March 2024, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AP15407st_patrick

The only issue I have with my AP is the huge gap between the bracelet and my arm when I stretch my hand like you can see on the picture. Is this just normal. My wrist is around 17-17.4 cm.

The modern RO is definitely designed for those with bigger wrists.

Otoro7 · 27 March 2024, 07:27 PM

If your worried about scratches then definitely go with the AP... as gold is more softer than steel

20 March 2024, 01:11 AM	#1
AP15407st_patrick "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: UAE, UK Posts: 35	5980/1r vs 15407st scratches Hi, i would need your support and would be glad if you can help me out. I am fortunate enough to own the 15407st and the 5980/1r. Both watches are nearly like new although the Patek was only worn once. I am currently considering to sell one watch due to other investments. I would wear the one i keep just for very special occassion so not as a daily driver. What is now really interesting to me is which model would you think scratches more and easier? Which model gets easier micro scratches and the most important topic is on which pieces would more be visible. I read a few statements saying both pieces are scratch magnets but on the 15407st scratches would not bother so much due to the dial that keeps the attention. I am not so sure as the micro scratches I already have on my piece are really annoying. Are there any collectors here with rose gold pateks and able to share a few pics of there pieces? I was also told that the rose gold get can discolored over the time. Is this true? Thank you so much for all your support

20 March 2024, 02:14 AM	#2
uniqueMR 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: USA Watch: P A T E K Posts: 4,706	By looking at your profile name, just keep AP 15407ST :) You won't any issues mentioned.. __________________ A. Lange & Sohne \| Audemars Piguet \| F.P.Journe \| Omega \| Patek Philippe \| Rolex \| Tudor \| ...and Othersss

20 March 2024, 03:31 AM	#4
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,906	If the keeper is a special occasion watch then I wouldn’t worry too much about scratches. I’ve seen pics of RG Patek with discoloration over time. I would keep the AP since it is more unique.

21 March 2024, 05:30 PM	#11
l_chissle "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Real Name: Chris Location: Germany Posts: 667	I think you just need a 1.5 link

21 March 2024, 10:13 PM	#12
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	I've had the 5711R for nearly 9 years now and there is no discolouration, I have a few marks on the bezel so it does mark up easily as I wear it sparingly, but it doesn't really affect how I view the watch and a quick turn and change of light and they all disappear, besides you can send in to PP for a polish every 3/4 years if marks do bother you.

27 March 2024, 07:27 PM	#17
Otoro7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Ontario Posts: 8	If your worried about scratches then definitely go with the AP... as gold is more softer than steel

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