Goodbye to Todays Technology Stuff.

[padi56]

Well I think I have finally got to the last straw as far as technology is concerned and the non delivery of a finished product. With patching upgrading to computors phones etc and features that a bit like the Doughnut maker, Sandwich toaster, DIY candy floss machine have done nothing more then sit in the corner grinning at me as a reminder to the foolish moments when the coercive advertising convinced me it was a good idea. While I was too busy helping build the next technological breakthrough. Not to speak of the stack of old and broken PC's, printers, monitors, TVs, my sons games machines (all with the same rubbish on) and a myriad of other electrical goods that have served to do nothing more then perpetuate the next big breakthrough in antienitainment.

What tripped me you may say? or not! Well when the next generation is already noticing, tick tack toeing on phones that seems now the social interaction of the children and many adults today. (Their children and others including grandchildren) brought together at say holidays comprised of a sofa full of ars#s each with a Nintendo or PSP,DS all playing different games and not even talking to each other, then I have to say that life could not get any technically dumbed down or dumber. The only thing that was missing was feeding tubes lowered from the ceiling, now if today there was not a app for this or that many now seems to have lost the use of there own brain.

As of the new year any new tech is barred, so that I don't end up buying into that long running dependency on the next advertisements Piled audio enhanced stream of nothing worth watching, or listening too, while gradually having my income eroded by 5 here and there.For increases for services that take up less then 2 hours of my day but cost me a 5th of annual earnings or now my bleeding pension.

I jumped the technical bandwagon and had a chance to watch from the sidelines as the self perpetuated insomniac driven mobian helterskelter rolled on into oblivion. And in so doing I got to taste the stuff I was drinking and eating (or more to the point scoffing to keep up with timescales) and realised that technology did not equal QOL (Quality of Life) or product come to that. Food is now tasteless (a curry does not qualify as taste) and entertainment consists of incoherent loud mouth ranting that is usually reserved for psychotherapy.

We now tune in the UK to see people being sick, having a dump, big Brother and the Xfactor other things like so called pleb shows, in the jungle Subtle comedy and entertainment has died, period dramas are now like the ghost written 'My life since I was born' by 'I was a superstar at 10 years old thanks to media hype and/or daddy's money' books.

It was once said the more you got the more you had to go wrong. Well there are now more people so I guess there is a lot more wrong and the same can be said for the technology that supports it.

So no super dupper 90 inch HD TV with free remote and free viewing for which we the advertisers will get the money back once the family is hooked, or mobile phone with 200 minutes free but when you do call expect the credit bill to rock. No more syphoning of the bank balance 6 months later on interest free deals or buy now pay forever schemes that are swamped in protective small print contained within the star of the pling the size of a microdot.

Entertainment will now revert to the pick me up entertainment with the only breaks being chapter breaks, with ad free cerebral viewing and no digital break up or system crashing (excluding misprinting and page tears, or mind failure).

Yes you can start to shove the digital age up your jacksey, never thought I would come to this being a prodigy of the technical age. And at one point a big proportionals of its 'benefits' but I guess as with all things developed to help humanity, they soon get crafted into the next weapon of choice to liberate people from their freedoms and their pay-cheques.

But I hear some of you say, if you don't employ the latest security, the most up to the minute gadgets, the better running car the ergonomically designed aerodynamic handbag for the missus, the computer controlled cooker, the service (DIY) driven ineptertainment systems, the spy in the sky tracking and tracing for your own and your families security where will you be? Where will I be! I'll be sat on my ars#, reading a book engaging the grey brain cells, drinking a quality single malt drink. That I took the time to test and flavour enjoying a comfortable chair in a quite and relaxing environment.

Gone will be the days of ferrying to the repair man or downloading that patch, or analysing the TV pages. Or trolley racing around the shopping centre or long protracted discussion with some mumbling guy the other-side of the universe trying to reset my access code to the hyper-service-self-evaluation-ebidding-barginwantnot.com. Or some similar 'service' no its just me the garden and this book a pint of beer or a single malt and comfy chair.

So Welcome to 2024 for me the anti-tech year and if I make it to 2025

[OG1982]

Well one thing is for sure Peter, we could all do with a little less dependence on the internet, and more looking into people eyes and having proper social interactions.

With young teenagers that lived through Covid lockdowns and the dependence on their iPad and phone to socialise for so long, it really is becoming a big issue

Not much you can do with your Bonsai either this time of the year.
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[enjoythemusic]

I hear ya PADI. Did you know one of the world's smartest men 'walked away' from ____ and enjoys a nice farmland area, etc. One of my close friends was a brilliant physicist, MIT wanted him as did others... not his style, so he enjoyed life on his terms, collecting 78rpm records, living modestly, etc.

This whole tech game is also greatly harming farmers, a major food source for humans. Farmers in the past could easily diagnose and fix their John Deere equipment, now they are forced to have JD service / diagnose problems, which is costing us food and highly needed farmers' time (and income).

Maybe it's time to find that special sailboat and....

[alex.cicollo]

I totally hear you brother!!!

[subtona]

Peter…



raise a glass to the solace brought to us by mechanical watch.

I don’t disagree with your sentiments. I would add the Uber collection of our data and dna is something that concerns me. There is no end in sight to the corporate abuse of the human commodity.

[AzPaul]

One of the best 'get off my lawn' rants I've read in a while.
As a lifetime member of the 'last to get the latest' club, I welcome you aboard.

[Krash]

Even folks like me get sick of technology. I have to confess, I’m a technologist. I have a degree in computer science. I started my career as a computer programmer back in 1985. I worked my way up through the ranks and retired as a Sr technology executive for one of the largest banks on the planet.

But I sometimes get frustrated with technology. Technology can be wonderful but if you’re too dependent on it, it can be an absolute nightmare.

I am truly optimistic and pessimistic about AI all at the same time. I believe that AI will eventually solve some of our greatest problems. For example, cures for cancer and Alzheimer’s. But at the same time, I wonder what it means for the human race if machines solve all our problems for us.

The ancient Greeks were able to calculate the size of the moon and the distance of the moon from earth with remarkable accuracy. They did so without computers or calculators. They didn’t even have pencils or ball point pens. Today, most people can’t calculate a 20% tip for dinner without their smartphones. It seems like the masses are getting dumber because of technology.


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[2loaded]

Calling CQ DX

[brandrea]

I often joke with friends and family that I’m getting rid of my cell phone … you know just to set an example.

It’s a huge pet peeve of mine. People everywhere… heads buried in their phones.

But how will we reach you Brian? They say ….

This is my answer




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[padi56]

Originally Posted by Krash

Even folks like me get sick of technology. I have to confess, I’m a technologist. I have a degree in computer science. I started my career as a computer programmer back in 1985. I worked my way up through the ranks and retired as a Sr technology executive for one of the largest banks on the planet.

But I sometimes get frustrated with technology. Technology can be wonderful but if you’re too dependent on it, it can be an absolute nightmare.

I am truly optimistic and pessimistic about AI all at the same time. I believe that AI will eventually solve some of our greatest problems. For example, cures for cancer and Alzheimer’s. But at the same time, I wonder what it means for the human race if machines solve all our problems for us.

The ancient Greeks were able to calculate the size of the moon and the distance of the moon from earth with remarkable accuracy. They did so without computers or calculators. They didn’t even have pencils or ball point pens. Today, most people can’t calculate a 20% tip for dinner without their smartphones. It seems like the masses are getting dumber because of technology.


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Well today many are completely brain dead today without there phones especially today's younger age who rely on so called social media to think for them,and to dictate what to do.

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by padi56

Well today many are completely brain dead today without there phones especially today's younger age who rely on so called social media to think for them,and to dictate what to do.

If it wasn't for social media creating masses of brain dead youth who can't solve problems or communicate solutions, octogenarians like me wouldn't be able to unretire for the third time to solve problems for companies that can't find good staff anymore.

[Krash]

It’s annoying when I walk into a restaurant and have to use a QR code to see the menu. It’s cool, but just give me a frckn menu. Again, this comes from someone that developed software for a living for more than 30 years. I don’t know, maybe it’s time for me to be put out to pasture.


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[Maleg]

Originally Posted by Krash

It’s annoying when I walk into a restaurant and have to use a QR code to see the menu. It’s cool, but just give me a frckn menu. Again, this comes from someone that developed software for a living for more than 30 years. I don’t know, maybe it’s time for me to be put out to pasture.


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One of the COVID artifacts is the no touch menu. Like you, I would rather a printed menu. But the virtual version is cheap and quickly revised without printing a whole set of menu's. It's Lean and efficient. And it sucks.

[77T]

Good afternoon Peter, hope you had a pleasant lunch - it seems something might not have sat well to prompt your narrative...

I just don't understand why we've lost the skill to hunt our food, make obsidian spearheads and arrowheads and cutting tools, skin the animal, tan the hide, sew deerskin and bearskin garments, grind our own maize, cut the peat, build the fire, huddle around a Smokey hole in the ground cooking our meat.

Oh, hang on a minute, hang on a futtiting minute - technical progress...

But that's just me...

I do think your impulse buying of wonderful electrical uni-taskers has a benefit.
Get them out and whip up a totally new food concept.

Today, with those 3 appliances you cited, you could build a French toast foundation for a layer of doughnuts shaped like a flying saucer topped by a pink candy floss cloud.



And no, I'm not an illustrator - I just asked my AI assistant to render an image of a French toast foundation for a doughnut flying saucer topped by a pink candy floss cloud.


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[77T]

Or this...yes...definitely this...
Puddles of strawberry syrup on top instead.




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[Maleg]

Originally Posted by 77T

Good afternoon Peter, hope you had a pleasant lunch - it seems something might not have sat well to prompt your narrative...

I just don't understand why we've lost the skill to hunt our food, make obsidian spearheads and arrowheads and cutting tools, skin the animal, tan the hide, sew deerskin and bearskin garments, grind our own maize, cut the peat, build the fire, huddle around a Smokey hole in the ground cooking our meat.

Oh, hang on a minute, hang on a futtiting minute - technical progress...

But that's just me...

I do think your impulse buying of wonderful electrical uni-taskers has a benefit.
Get them out and whip up a totally new food concept.

Today, with those 3 appliances you cited, you could build a French toast foundation for a layer of doughnuts shaped like a flying saucer topped by a pink candy floss cloud.


And no, I'm not an illustrator - I just asked my AI assistant to render an image of a French toast foundation for a doughnut flying saucer topped by a pink candy floss cloud.


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This is why technology corrupts your lifestyle. Rather than create, you abdicated your free will to a machine. Peter is right. Time to take a step back.

[77T]

Not at all - just showing how we've come from pre-historic caves.

I choose to play in all the zones and I'd ask if you have a cellphone - of course you do -

It's just friendly ribbing twixt TRF acquaintances.


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[Maleg]

Originally Posted by 77T

Not at all - just showing how we've come from pre-historic caves.

I choose to play in all the zones and I'd ask if you have a cellphone - of course you do -

It's just friendly ribbing twixt TRF acquaintances.


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At least it wasn't an emoji storm.

[Speedbird-1]

I hear you, loud and clear Peter, but.......

When, occasionally, during dinner party conversations, someone might ask, "if you could be born at any other time in history, when would you choose"?

My stock reply is usually, "any time after modern anaesthetics and or penicillin were invented". Old 'tech' agreed, but revolutionary tech all the same, in its day.


I get your main drift Peter, but remember, modern technology may save your life, or the life, of someone you love and care for.

You can't stop what's coming.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Speedbird-1

I hear you, loud and clear Peter, but.......

When, occasionally, during dinner party conversations, someone might ask, "if you could be born at any other time in history, when would you choose"?

My stock reply is usually, "any time after modern anaesthetics and or penicillin were invented". Old 'tech' agreed, but revolutionary tech all the same, in its day.


I get your main drift Peter, but remember, modern technology may save your life, or the life, of someone you love and care for.

You can't stop what's coming.

Many years ago when I was just a young lad my grandfather took me to London zoo,in one of the houses think it was the reptile house. There was a large full size mirror with a caption on the bottom it read, you are now looking at the most dangerous animal on this planet, man will destroy the world with his technology.

[Blansky]

I would say that the problem is not the technology per se.

It's the speed that it's coming at us and our inability to manage it properly and think about the repercussions.

We have left the world and the future in the hands of a few tech wizards who are mostly on the spectrum and not really socially responsible. To them it's the excitement of new toys. Couple that with the fact that they have unlimited wealth to manipulate the conversation.

I fear it won't end well.

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by Blansky

I would say that the problem is not the technology per se.

It's the speed that it's coming at us and our inability to manage it properly and think about the repercussions.

We have left the world and the future in the hands of a few tech wizards who are mostly on the spectrum and not really socially responsible. To them it's the excitement of new toys. Couple that with the fact that they have unlimited wealth to manipulate the conversation.

I fear it won't end well.

Don't be so negative. It always ends well for someone.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Speedbird-1

I hear you, loud and clear Peter, but.......

When, occasionally, during dinner party conversations, someone might ask, "if you could be born at any other time in history, when would you choose"?

My stock reply is usually, "any time after modern anaesthetics and or penicillin were invented". Old 'tech' agreed, but revolutionary tech all the same, in its day.


I get your main drift Peter, but remember, modern technology may save your life, or the life, of someone you love and care for.

You can't stop what's coming.

Originally Posted by padi56

Many years ago when I was just a young lad my grandfather took me to London zoo,in one of the houses think it was the reptile house. There was a large full size mirror with a caption on the bottom it read, you are now looking at the most dangerous animal on this planet, man will destroy the world with his technology.

I absolutely love this debate and appreciate both sides. Well said

[VictorGMT]

Though we can succumb to the downside, I see the upside.

Recently, I was on a beach in Belize. A man with a cart was selling mango popsicles for 4 Belizian dollars. Which I did not have.

Fear not! He accepted ApplePay! I tapped my phone, his iPad dinged, and he handed me my delicious popsicle. My phone showed a notification that I had been charged $2.00 USD.

Very eager to see what comes next.

We still have the Mark 1 Mod 1 brain, and these changes are coming quickly. A peasant from 1200 AD could adapt to 1890 more easily than someone born in 1924 could adapt to 2024, thanks to the snowball effect of accumulated technical progress.

Though I've never known the "One With Nature" feeling that comes from plowing behind a mule from sunup to sundown, I greatly appreciate that I can pick a climate and be there in six hours to enjoy anything I'd like.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by padi56

There was a large full size mirror with a caption on the bottom it read, you are now looking at the most dangerous animal on this planet, man will destroy the world with his technology.

i have seen the enemy....

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by VictorGMT

Though we can succumb to the downside, I see the upside.

Recently, I was on a beach in Belize. A man with a cart was selling mango popsicles for 4 Belizian dollars. Which I did not have.

Fear not! He accepted ApplePay! I tapped my phone, his iPad dinged, and he handed me my delicious popsicle. My phone showed a notification that I had been charged $2.00 USD.

Very eager to see what comes next.

We still have the Mark 1 Mod 1 brain, and these changes are coming quickly. A peasant from 1200 AD could adapt to 1890 more easily than someone born in 1924 could adapt to 2024, thanks to the snowball effect of accumulated technical progress.

Though I've never known the "One With Nature" feeling that comes from plowing behind a mule from sunup to sundown, I great appreciate that I can pick a climate and be there in six hours to enjoy anything I'd like.

Perhaps, without thinking, you were subconsciously relying on your 'phone.
In the days without ApplePay, you might have had the foresight to have a few dollars your pocket?

I'm a 75 year old, and enjoy my mobile and my Mac and iPod and sat nav in my car but....
One day, maybe not too far away, a Graphite Bomb might be used near any of us.....good luck with your 'phone and any other hi-tech gadget, then!
I of course, being 'old school', will have at least, couple of hundred quid in my wallet.

[VictorGMT]

Originally Posted by padi56

There was a large full size mirror with a caption on the bottom it read, you are now looking at the most dangerous animal on this planet, man will destroy the world with his technology.

The "Down With People" group are the greatest danger. Refusing to acknowledge our outstanding stewardship of Earth.

[VictorGMT]

Originally Posted by Speedbird-1

Perhaps, without thinking, you were subconsciously relying on your 'phone.
In the days without ApplePay, you might have had the foresight to have a few dollars your pocket?

I was at an all-inclusive and never bother with local currency. But it didn't include walk-on carts :)

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by VictorGMT

The "Down With People" group are the greatest danger. Refusing to acknowledge our outstanding stewardship of Earth.

Can you give me ONE example of something good, humans have done for this planet?


If you say, "Netflix", I will find you, and I will k....

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by Speedbird-1

...

I of course, being 'old school', will have at least, couple of hundred quid in my wallet.

I, being an older OG, have a box of gold coins (thanks to 330ci for the buying advices) with my stack of greenbacks.