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Old 28 October 2010, 04:14 AM   #31
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So true...we all get use to good things....good idea to rotate watches, match clothes, etc for a special occasion. A functional watch can be had for $10, but fine swiss watches are little works of art to be savored and enjoye! Just have a cheap watch to put on from time to time so you can contrast it against the fine quality of a Rolex!
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Old 28 October 2010, 04:31 AM   #32
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So true...we all get use to good things....good idea to rotate watches, match clothes, etc for a special occasion. A functional watch can be had for $10, but fine swiss watches are little works of art to be savored and enjoye! Just have a cheap watch to put on from time to time so you can contrast it against the fine quality of a Rolex!
Elequently said!
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Old 28 October 2010, 05:15 AM   #33
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This issue is explained in the following grossly simplified way ( to hopefully minimize it's recurrence in the future ) :




Consider the problem of estimating the unknown deterministic parameter vector x from the noisy measurements in the linear model

y = Hx + w
where H is a known matrix with full column rank m, and w is a zero mean random vector with covariance matrix Cw, which models the noise.


To define the regret here, consider a linear estimator that knows the value of the parameter x, i.e. the matrix G can explicitly depend on x:

To find the optimal G(x), it is differentated with respect to G and equated to 0 getting

G(x) = xx * H * (Cw + Hxx * H * ) − 1
and using the Matrix Inversion Lemma

The minimax REGRET approach here is to minimize the worst-case regret as defined above. This will allow a performance as close as possible to the best achievable performance in the worst case of the parameter x. Although this problem APPEARS difficult, it can be formulated as a convex optimization problem and solved DEFINITELY .


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Old 28 October 2010, 07:55 AM   #34
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Wearing my Series Y Sub as I type this Mik. I am jonesing for a GMTIIC, but wondering if it would be too similar to the Sub. Would love a white Daytona as well...but I am on a major watch diet!
I'M exactly in the same boat, I love it, but $7 Grand for a watch thats sooo similar to my SUB
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Old 28 October 2010, 08:15 AM   #35
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You have to do what makes you happy Mik IMO if you haven't worn it in a month and you had the reaction you did when you put it on, you'll have the same in a nother month or so.

Yes, you said you'll lose a few bucks on it. If it isn't making you smile, something else will. Be it a watch or otherwise
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Old 28 October 2010, 08:25 AM   #36
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...think I might have....

I haven't worn it for like a month. Put it on yesterday and was like 'eh. I don't know how this happened. Maybe I'll put it in my safe deposit box for a month so I don't see it.
I'm with you: I don't like that watch at all. The GMT was a great watch, though, once upon a time. If I were you, I'd sell or trade for a Pepsi GMT II.
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Old 28 October 2010, 11:06 AM   #37
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I haven't had any long enough to say (May of this year first one) exactly how I will feel for sure in the future. But I have yet to get bored with any of mine yet. It probably helps to be able to rotate amongst a number of them though.
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Old 28 October 2010, 11:08 AM   #38
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mate, the same thing has happened to me. shame, uh oh
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Old 28 October 2010, 11:42 AM   #39
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not quite sure how you could 'loose that lovin' feeling' -
If you dont want it anymore...let me know...!! (not j/k)
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Old 28 October 2010, 11:46 AM   #40
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I think most of us have that feeling...its a human trait I think...when the newness wears off....
plan special times to wear it ..then you will look forward to it more.
I plan not only special times for each watch, but also special outfits....
Tomorrow will be the chronomat evolution with diamonds and my newly aquired red sweater to match...
It isn't the newness wearing off. Something else. I still love my Sub and I've had it longer. Just don't know what it is.
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Old 28 October 2010, 11:47 AM   #41
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This issue is explained in the following grossly simplified way ( to hopefully minimize it's recurrence in the future ) :




Consider the problem of estimating the unknown deterministic parameter vector x from the noisy measurements in the linear model

y = Hx + w
where H is a known matrix with full column rank m, and w is a zero mean random vector with covariance matrix Cw, which models the noise.


To define the regret here, consider a linear estimator that knows the value of the parameter x, i.e. the matrix G can explicitly depend on x:

To find the optimal G(x), it is differentated with respect to G and equated to 0 getting

G(x) = xx * H * (Cw + Hxx * H * ) − 1
and using the Matrix Inversion Lemma

The minimax REGRET approach here is to minimize the worst-case regret as defined above. This will allow a performance as close as possible to the best achievable performance in the worst case of the parameter x. Although this problem APPEARS difficult, it can be formulated as a convex optimization problem and solved DEFINITELY .


Yeah, that is what I thought......
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Old 28 October 2010, 11:49 AM   #42
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You have to do what makes you happy Mik IMO if you haven't worn it in a month and you had the reaction you did when you put it on, you'll have the same in a nother month or so.

Yes, you said you'll lose a few bucks on it. If it isn't making you smile, something else will. Be it a watch or otherwise
Thanks for the WoW (words of wisdom) Paulie. I've been feeling like this for awhile with this one. I almost traded it for a fifty fathoms about a year ago. I bought this on impulse. Maybe it was a mistake.
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Old 28 October 2010, 11:50 AM   #43
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mate, the same thing has happened to me. shame, uh oh
Dude, update your profile. Says you have a IIc!!!!!!!


232 would be interesting....
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Old 28 October 2010, 11:51 AM   #44
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not quite sure how you could 'loose that lovin' feeling' -
If you dont want it anymore...let me know...!! (not j/k)
Sorry man, I'm not shilling. If I post it, I'll try to do it on CL in my town. If not, I guess I have enough credit here on TRF to sell it. I'll let you know later, at least a month. If you want one, just go out there. There are plenty!
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Old 28 October 2010, 11:55 AM   #45
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The feeling you're having is that only of a WIS. None-the-less, there seems to be a hunger that needs satiating. I'd imagine it would only be by replacing the piece, but that's just my personal experience. My mantra is this: You know you have a great watch when you put it on after not wearing it for a while and it still sings. It took me a while to find the right pieces, but I can honestly say this about all mine....
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Old 28 October 2010, 12:12 PM   #46
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I understand where you are coming from, but it's with my DSSD. I put away my ss GMT IIc a few weeks ago. Things weren't going bad in my life, but things have been more difficult than I like. I really don't think things have changed, but I'm much happier looking at my DSSD these days during "the grind."

Puts me in a better state of mind.
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Old 28 October 2010, 12:18 PM   #47
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Mik,

As you know, I've had the same feeling before which is why those pieces aren't with me anymore.

I'd encourage you to wear the watch for a few days and see how you feel. You already know how you feel after having it OFF the wrist for an extended period of time. If it still doesn't 'do it' for you and you feel like you wouldn't miss it, I say let it go, even if there's not a 'replacement' in mind now. No sense in keeping a pricey watch around if you don't love wearing it!
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Old 28 October 2010, 12:44 PM   #48
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I guess i just happens sometimes. And sometimes it just comes and goes. But if the "lovin' felling" doesn't come back, it's the watch that should go.

I myself tried a GMT IIc the other day and it fit my wrist perfectly. It felt much more comfortable than my Sub 16610. But I just didn't feel the "quintessencially" of the SS Sub when I put the GMT IIc on and so it did nothing for me.

It must be hard feeling that after buying it brand new...
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Old 28 October 2010, 01:15 PM   #49
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but gmt 2c is such a nice watch. super elegant and shiny but thin so only you notice it
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Old 28 October 2010, 01:21 PM   #50
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IMO you have to wear it for some time and not take it off so that u can really evaluate your feeling before doing anything with it
everybody will love the sub it is easy to be loved it doesn't have anything extra or diffrent it is simple, the GMT IIC is similer to sub IN 80% exept that it is diffrent IN 20 % !!!! SO IT IS A WATCH THAT NEED SPECIAL LOVE, IT IS NOT FOR EVERYONE
so after you try it if u don't like it u will probably have to sell it cos that love can't be forced, but must try to see if it is there deep inside you
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