rolex movements numbered?

[dricig]

Just a general info question.
Are the movements numbered in a rolex and assigned to that specific serial number watch?

thanks
dave

[Andad]

The case has a number engraved betwen the lugs at 6 (except the DSSD) and this is the s/n that is on the certificate/card. It is also on the rehaute at 6 on the newer models along with the 'Rolex' engraving.
The movement also has a serial number and Rolex would have all this matching information in their files. The movement would not be assigned it would just be the next movement for the model being assembled and picked at random.
The movement s/n is not generally used to id a Rolex but Rolex would know which movement s/n matched each Rolex sent out to the AD's.

[rmfnla]

Movement numbers are used internally for inventory and QC purposes.

[sleddog]

Originally Posted by directioneng

The case has a number engraved betwen the lugs at 6 (except the DSSD) and this is the s/n that is on the certificate/card. It is also on the rehaute at 6 on the newer models along with the 'Rolex' engraving.
The movement also has a serial number and Rolex would have all this matching information in their files. The movement would not be assigned it would just be the next movement for the model being assembled and picked at random.
The movement s/n is not generally used to id a Rolex but Rolex would know which movement s/n matched each Rolex sent out to the AD's.

Well said Eddie......!

[dricig]

Thank you for the explanations.
So my next question is this;
If I have an older sub that had a genuine movement put in. When it is sent to RSC for a routine service would Rolex know? would they check? would they even care?

dave

[Andad]

IMO Rolex would certainly know that the case and the movement did not match.
They might or might not service it.

Where are we going with this thread??

[chestercopperpot]

Does someone have a frankenwatch?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by directioneng

The case has a number engraved betwen the lugs at 6 (except the DSSD) and this is the s/n that is on the certificate/card. It is also on the rehaute at 6 on the newer models along with the 'Rolex' engraving.
The movement also has a serial number and Rolex would have all this matching information in their files. The movement would not be assigned it would just be the next movement for the model being assembled and picked at random.
The movement s/n is not generally used to id a Rolex but Rolex would know which movement s/n matched each Rolex sent out to the AD's.

Have to agree and in any particular watch case the movement could be older or newer made or visa versa.This is why this must have the latest case stamp nonsense IMHO is so ridicules its just preconceived its a newer watch.But the movement in say watches with the cal 3135 could be weeks,months or a year old or more.

[dricig]

Originally Posted by directioneng

IMO Rolex would certainly know that the case and the movement did not match.
They might or might not service it.

Where are we going with this thread??

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Here is why I ask.

I have the chance to get 2 older subs and your opinions will help me decide if this is a worthwhile endeavor.

One has a fantastic case and acrylic with crappy dial/hands and slow movement (-30 sec/day). Also has complete box/papers/tags etc.

The other has a dinged up case and acrylic but a great dial/hands and keeps fantastic time. No box/papers

Both are the same reference and same movement.

I would consider swapping out the movement/dial/hand as a complete unit and keeping the great shape sub and selling the crappy shape one as a whole watch or as parts since I don't need 2 subs. Of course if I sold it as a complete watch I would offer full disclosure as to the parts origin.

If this purchase is made, and the 10 minutes worth of work is done to swap the items, I would end up with an incredible vintage submariner with full box/papers set.



But would I have a genuine rolex submariner or a frankenwatch that RSC will not service?



thanks
dave