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sushisummo · 5 March 2011, 05:47 PM

Hi fellow TRF,

I got this Franck Muller Casablanca from my brother.

I wanted your expertise to see if this watch is real or not.

I open the back so you can see the inside of it.

Thanks in advance.

Ray T · 5 March 2011, 05:53 PM

think you have a replica, the movement definitely does not look right. it looks like a stock eta movement, doesn't have the franck muller refinishing of the movement. i believe the movement is wrong too, should be a 2892, you have a 2824 or 2836 i believe

Jocke · 5 March 2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ufokillerz

think you have a replica, the movement definitely does not look right. it looks like a stock eta movement, doesn't have the franck muller refinishing of the movement. i believe the movement is wrong too, should be a 2892, you have a 2824 or 2836 i believe

Didn't FM use Chinese or Russian movements for a while?

Jocke · 5 March 2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sushisummo

Hi fellow TRF,

I got this Franck Muller Casablanca from my brother.

I wanted your expertise to see if this watch is real or not.

I open the back so you can see the inside of it.

Thanks in advance.

I guess the price he give for it will mirroring if it's real or not.

sushisummo · 5 March 2011, 06:04 PM

Thanks guys.........I have a feeling it was not real.

slcbbrown · 6 March 2011, 12:14 AM

Don't give up on it, yet. Just a thought, but who is going to spend a bundle to make a cheap copy of a Muller. I wouldn't think that there are enough sold to make the fakery profitable. This watch has a lot of detail for a fake.

Ray T · 6 March 2011, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by slcbbrown

Don't give up on it, yet. Just a thought, but who is going to spend a bundle to make a cheap copy of a Muller. I wouldn't think that there are enough sold to make the fakery profitable. This watch has a lot of detail for a fake.

the biggest tell is the movement, Luxury manufacturer's do not drop in plain eta movements without finishing it.

kilyung · 6 March 2011, 01:29 AM

Personally, I'd give it back to him. You could always send it to Jocke for some fun. He'd know what to do with it.

Mosco · 6 March 2011, 02:08 AM

I think it is a Fred Miller....

Rolex116520 · 6 March 2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosco

I think it is a Fred Miller....

I came with a 6pack of Miller light ?

applebook · 6 March 2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray T

the biggest tell is the movement, Luxury manufacturer's do not drop in plain eta movements without finishing it.

When did FM actually spend time/labor/skill on finishing the generic movements that the company has used from the beginning?

A "good" fake FM might surpass the real thing in quality and workmanship!

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5 March 2011, 05:53 PM	#2
Ray T "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Ray Location: NYC Watch: 116619 LB Posts: 353	think you have a replica, the movement definitely does not look right. it looks like a stock eta movement, doesn't have the franck muller refinishing of the movement. i believe the movement is wrong too, should be a 2892, you have a 2824 or 2836 i believe

6 March 2011, 12:14 AM	#6
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,689	Don't give up on it, yet. Just a thought, but who is going to spend a bundle to make a cheap copy of a Muller. I wouldn't think that there are enough sold to make the fakery profitable. This watch has a lot of detail for a fake.

6 March 2011, 01:29 AM	#8
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Personally, I'd give it back to him. You could always send it to Jocke for some fun. He'd know what to do with it.

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