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Old 28 November 2012, 06:52 PM   #1
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14060m bracelet

Have just purchased my 1st rolex a sub non date 14060m
After having 3 omega seamasters. I love the sub
But the bracelet is driving me mad is there any one out thre
That has suffered too or is there any advice about the bracelet?
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Old 28 November 2012, 06:55 PM   #2
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Have just purchased my 1st rolex a sub non date 14060m
After having 3 omega seamasters. I love the sub
But the bracelet is driving me mad is there any one out thre
That has suffered too or is there any advice about the bracelet?
What exactly is the problem?
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Old 28 November 2012, 06:56 PM   #3
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Have just purchased my 1st rolex a sub non date 14060m
After having 3 omega seamasters. I love the sub
But the bracelet is driving me mad is there any one out thre
That has suffered too or is there any advice about the bracelet?
What's wrong with the bracelet?
If anything, it's made of 904L steel, which technically should be better than 360L graded steel on the Seamaster.
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Old 28 November 2012, 07:11 PM   #4
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The bracelet on the 14060M is the bracelet that comes with this Rolex.
Functional, lightweight and strong.
Enjoy it as being part of the Marque.
Step up to the 114060 for the latest.
But not necessarily the best.
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Old 28 November 2012, 07:37 PM   #5
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14060m bracelet

I think im probably being picky but i find the clasp quite uncomfortable
I like the new bracelet on the 114060 but not to keen on the
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Old 28 November 2012, 10:35 PM   #6
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What's wrong with the bracelet?
If anything, it's made of 904L steel, which technically should be better than 360L graded steel on the Seamaster.
Well first its 316L S.Steel and a few other watch manufactures use 904L but there is nothing magical about 904L.Only the fact it cost slightly more but that mainly down to less demand over the 316L. And as far as I know only two companies use it it the watch trade Rolex and XOSKELETON.The main use for 904L is for pipes and containers that carry acids like sulphuric,they even use it in vinegar pickling plants.And they use 316L in surgical instruments too and even S.Steel plates/ screws and for implants on humans.The only difference between 316L over 904L it has slightly more Molybdenum(Mo)approx 2% more,and approx 1-2% more Chrome(Cr), 1% more copper(Cu), and approximately 10% more nickel and thats it.Plus in many ways 904L is slightly softer metal than 316L plus 904L can scratch more easily.Yes 904L has a slightly more resistance to corrosion over 316L but as long as you don't put watch is high corrosive substance then no real advantage.And today Rolex watches in general get quite a pampered life its simple keep any SS watch clean no matter 316L or 904L both will mostly outlive there owners.

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I think im probably being picky but i find the clasp quite uncomfortable
I like the new bracelet on the 114060 but not to keen on the
Maxi case
Well myself think its all in your mind and if the old type clasp is adjusted correctly it very comfortable. And I have been wearing using these watches and using as tool watches for 30 plus years and I have never found the fliplock clasp to be uncomfortable.Now don't know the size of your wrist but the clasp on the 114060 is a bit longer over the 14060m but agree the SEL solid end links are a improvement.Afraid today many perceive that heavier is aways better but afraid thats not aways the case in anything especially watches.Like you could have a very heavy watch with a crap movement, or you could have a excellent movement is a lighter watch.Which one would you choose I know which one I would.
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Old 28 November 2012, 10:55 PM   #7
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I find the 14060 light weight bracelet/clasp to be very comfortable, and enjoy it's "shake, rattle, and roll" nature.
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Old 28 November 2012, 11:10 PM   #8
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Love that bracelet!
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Old 29 November 2012, 12:17 AM   #9
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Have just purchased my 1st rolex a sub non date 14060m
After having 3 omega seamasters. I love the sub
But the bracelet is driving me mad is there any one out thre
That has suffered too or is there any advice about the bracelet?
You sure it's not a fitment issue?
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Old 29 November 2012, 12:24 AM   #10
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The rattly bracelet with hollow end links certainly isn't for everyone hense all the pics of them on nato's.

Sold my 14060M.....have since regretted it.
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Old 29 November 2012, 12:24 AM   #11
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The bracelet is extremely durable and reliable.
There is 1 problem with the 93150 bracelet in my experience, the dive extension link pops open every now and again when the outer part of the clasp is accidentally caught on something, this problem is exacerbated when using the shorter adjustment settings in the clasp ....this is a minor nuisance but unwelcome nonetheless.
It was addressed successfully in the 93250 clasp.
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The rattly bracelet with hollow end links certainly isn't for everyone hense all the pics of them on nato's.

Sold my 14060M.....have since regretted it.
The rattling only occurs for me if I wear it too loose. If fitted snugly (IMO properly) then you'll never hear any rattling and it's the equal of any SEL bracelet.
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Old 29 November 2012, 01:03 AM   #13
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The rattling only occurs for me if I wear it too loose. If fitted snugly (IMO properly) then you'll never hear any rattling and it's the equal of any SEL bracelet.
Have to agree and lets be honest used and abused by many that used them as proper tool watches even Comex used a modified 5513 which was the for-runner of the 14060.
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Old 29 November 2012, 01:58 AM   #14
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I love my 14060M bracelet and all!
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Old 29 November 2012, 03:01 AM   #15
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I think im probably being picky but i find the clasp quite uncomfortable
I like the new bracelet on the 114060 but not to keen on the
Maxi case
I'm sure you can buy a 114060 bracelet and fit onto a 14060M.
Job done
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Old 29 November 2012, 03:15 AM   #16
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I feel your pain...

... since I had a 14060M and gladly got rid of it in favor of the 116610LN for one reason and one reason only: I HATED the bracelet. No matter what I did, I could not get a comfortable fit on my 6.5" wrist. The clasp always sat in a weird position and rubbed, hurt, and poked. The only alternative would have been to have a permanent link removed - which I didn't want to do. I'm not sure if your problem is the same as mine but once I upgraded to the new sub C and its bracelet with additional removable links, there is no way I would ever go back. I absolutely love the comfort. I'm sure for folks with larger wrists it isn't an issue but for me it was terrible. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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Old 29 November 2012, 04:06 AM   #17
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I agree with WyoWatch above - probably is not the clasp but the need to remove a permanent link. Dont worry - you can always add one back on. Check this thread out for a DIY:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=187493

I did it myself and it made my sub much more comfortable.
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Old 29 November 2012, 04:33 AM   #18
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I always felt the 14060 bracelet was a cheap piece of crap but i never had a problem with it.now I got the 114060 and it actually feels like a rolex should feel in my eyes.friends would ask to try on the 14060 and when I handed it i them they would think it was fake cause of the band.so I prefer the upgrade.
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I always felt the 14060 bracelet was a cheap piece of crap but i never had a problem with it.now I got the 114060 and it actually feels like a rolex should feel in my eyes.friends would ask to try on the 14060 and when I handed it i them they would think it was fake cause of the band.so I prefer the upgrade.
So you purchased the new sub, in part - because your friends thought you had a fake watch?
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Old 29 November 2012, 04:48 AM   #20
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So you purchased the new sub, in part - because your friends thought you had a fake watch?
Have agree must admit these bracelet post make me smile.
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Old 29 November 2012, 05:25 AM   #21
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Part of the charm of the 14060m is that it was the last throwback to older Rolex that includes lug holes and, yes, the hollow link bracelet with folding blades. I see the bracelet as in keeping with the overall package.
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Old 30 November 2012, 03:33 AM   #22
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I find the 14060 light weight bracelet/clasp to be very comfortable, and enjoy it's "shake, rattle, and roll" nature.
+1 for this, wear it for few days and you will appreciate how comfortable it is a watch, not just as a bracelet, if that makes sense.

Ps great choice classic sub
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Old 30 November 2012, 03:42 AM   #23
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I much rather prefer the lighter feel of the non SEL bracelet..Out of all my Rolex', my 14060 is my every day watch..I find my 116203 two tone DJ is much heavier and not nearly as comfy..enjoy the lightweight feel of the bracelet..
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Old 30 November 2012, 05:36 AM   #24
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I owned 4 Omegas before I bought my first Rolex and initially had similar feelings towards the Submariner 93150 bracelet. I found three things helped in particular and now I actually prefer my Rolex/Tudor bracelets over my Omega ones. Sizing/adjusting is also a breeze with access to a small screw driver and spring bar tool.

Get the best fit - Even an older bracelet with stretch can feel good if it is sized appropriately. See here for some tips

Clean the bracelet - Since the links are hollow (and most sellers of used watches do not clean them for you) a lot of gunk can get into the bracelet which effects how it wears. Again more tips here

Adjust the end-links for rattle - Some older worn links may be a lost cause, but I found that slightly bending the the links helped secure it to the case better, which reduced / eliminated the rattle and provided a secure fit.
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