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Old 30 September 2013, 10:05 AM   #1
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How come there's no love for Cartier?

Why doesn't Cartier get recognition as a luxury watch brand on this site?


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Old 30 September 2013, 10:09 AM   #2
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This is the Rolex/Tudor discussion section. Try the watches non Rolex section. I'm sure there's some chatter about em there :-)
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Old 30 September 2013, 10:09 AM   #3
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It gets a little love. You have to remember this is The Rolex Forum.
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Old 30 September 2013, 10:11 AM   #4
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Cartier is a jewelry company that happens to make watches. Rolex is a watch company.
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Old 30 September 2013, 10:12 AM   #5
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Old 30 September 2013, 10:16 AM   #6
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What utter rubbish. You can start your education here, if you like.
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Old 30 September 2013, 11:20 AM   #7
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This could have had the potential of being true a few years ago perhaps but not anymore and especially not when Jaeger-Lecoultre used to make their calibres. Cartier does make some jewelry and jewel-like watches but nowadays they concentrate much more on haute horlogerie and some of their models are pretty impressive. It's definitely worth a read and even more worth it to avoid putting all their watches in the "small quartz watch" category.

For the record, I really like Cartier watches and think they look great (though I wouldn't wear them all), whether it's a quartz tank watch or another model with a mechanical and well finished movement they do have some beautiful ones.
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Old 30 September 2013, 12:08 PM   #8
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To me, Cartier is synonymous with tank watch, which I have zero interest in.
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Old 30 September 2013, 12:22 PM   #9
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Certain manufactures get love while others just don't on any forum... I've never seen Cartier bashing here before. And if there was any confusion about the quality of Cartier, all one would have to do is look at some of their tourbillons they've put out over the past decade. Nothing short of astounding
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Old 30 September 2013, 12:30 PM   #10
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Cartier is a jewelry company that happens to make watches. Rolex is a watch company.
Huh? Must have not heard about the history of the Cartier Santos. One of the first, if not the first, wristwatches from more than 100 years ago. If that is not watch making heritage, I don't know what is.
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Old 1 October 2013, 04:03 AM   #11
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Cartier's Tank is one of the icons of the watch world.
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Old 1 October 2013, 04:54 AM   #12
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Huh? Must have not heard about the history of the Cartier Santos. One of the first, if not the first, wristwatches from more than 100 years ago. If that is not watch making heritage, I don't know what is.
Agreed. They were one of, if not, the first to produce wristwatches. I own a Calibre de Cartier, which I very much enjoy. The first manufacture movement by Cartier. Yet I have to agree that Cartier lost its touch for quite a while when they were doing pretty much only ETA-based watches (not including Collection Prive). That's why my first Cartier was the Calibre because it was in-house. I always loved the Santos 100 but just couln't buy it because it was purely ETA. I hope they are getting their sh*t together and make more in-house movements and get back to watchmaking rather than purely designing watches.
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Old 1 October 2013, 04:57 AM   #13
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For me it stars with style, and Cartier has nothing in their line up that appeals to me. Great history and lineage but I don't care for them.
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Old 1 October 2013, 05:17 AM   #14
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For me it stars with style, and Cartier has nothing in their line up that appeals to me. Great history and lineage but I don't care for them.
One of the first fair criticisms of Cartier I've read on any board. Nice to see someone give a reason for not liking them other than "they don't make watches, they make jewelry."

There are many reasons to not like a particular brand, the whole "they are jewelry maker" thing though to me is nonsense.

Their fine watchmaking collection is frankly nothing short of incredible.

For the more common folk (who still spend up to $10K on a watch), the Calibre and the Calibre Chronograph are nice additions. I do agree though that they need to start spreading their in-house movements into the rest of the line sooner than later.
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Old 1 October 2013, 06:01 AM   #15
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Guys - the OP asked why there isn't love and some of the comments are the reasons why (whether factual or perceived).

If I walked into the Cartier store, there's a good chance the first watch I pick up will not be in-house.

I'd also bring up that this is a watch forum where people are passionate and fanatic about watches...if you see someone wearing a Tank on the street, do you automatically think that person might be a WIS? I don't know about you, but even with a Rolex, I automatically assume it's a 50/50 shot...something like PP, AP, sure, it's safe to go up and have a convo, but with a Cartier, never.
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Old 1 October 2013, 06:06 AM   #16
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I quite like the Calibre de Cartier but there's no room for it in my rotation. I could see it if I didn't have a Panerai but I don't think it would get worn all that often.
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Old 1 October 2013, 07:35 AM   #17
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As a collector I own many cartier modals love them all
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Old 1 October 2013, 07:37 AM   #18
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Old 1 October 2013, 08:13 AM   #19
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I like them, but I don't like them enough to get one with my limited toy funds ... :p

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Old 1 October 2013, 08:33 AM   #20
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What can I say; I'm not a fan.
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Old 1 October 2013, 11:32 AM   #21
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They have some interesting pieces that I would consider if I had the cash to spend.
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Old 1 October 2013, 12:23 PM   #22
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besides being lumped in with other names like LV, gucci, in the publics eyes etc etc. they look cheap imo. or not as highly finished as other swiss watches.
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Old 1 October 2013, 02:56 PM   #23
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Even if I liked Cartier watches, I highly doubt I could pull off wearing one.
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Old 1 October 2013, 04:59 PM   #24
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Just today, I was contemplating the Cartier Ronde Solo. I really like how simple and thin the watch is. I tried the Santos some years ago (nephew's) and I really like it.

There is definitely love for it with this member.
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The Cartier ID Two is interesting, if beyond the realm of affordable.
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Old 1 October 2013, 06:45 PM   #26
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i like them , not as much as jlc which i view to be in a very similar style. id spend the money on jlc , its not that they dont get love , its just this is a rolex forum.
theres a huge list of quality watches out there that seldom get a mention here its not that they dont get interest or respect , its just that here isnt the place.
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Old 1 October 2013, 11:25 PM   #27
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besides being lumped in with other names like LV, gucci, in the publics eyes etc etc. they look cheap imo. or not as highly finished as other swiss watches.
Go to your Cartier AD and check out their watches, they are definitely not cheap looking and the finishing quality is superb.
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Old 1 October 2013, 11:26 PM   #28
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As a collector I own many cartier modals love them all
The Santos is a great watch.
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I really like them too.
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The Santos is a great watch.
For sure also on rubber
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