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chiggah · 9 October 2013, 01:39 PM

Apologies if this is the incorrect subforum to post this. Mods feel free to move my post to the appropriate section.

Looking at this one here but hard to tell. Any experienced collectors can give me some input ? Cheers

http://www.ebay.com/itm/rolex-submar...-/261302463612

GradyPhilpott · 9 October 2013, 03:29 PM

Nothing jumped out at me as being unusual, but we shall see what the more knowledgeable have to say.

chiggah · 9 October 2013, 04:50 PM

I emailed the seller and he said the following : "It's authentic. if you don't believe me, go on some watch forums and ask them to check it out for you. that's the best advice i can give."

I mean his response is pretty normal and vague, but if there are any specific questions i should ask or confront him, please do let me know

bondtoys · 9 October 2013, 05:16 PM

I can't see anything wrong with the seller's advise.

He told you that it's authentic - it's always good to have more and independent opinions - such as from a forum.

Phllox · 9 October 2013, 07:24 PM

As said on WUS, it looks authentic to me. Maybe you can ask for extra pictures just to check that serial on papers match with serial on the watch

Cc1966 · 9 October 2013, 10:02 PM

Looks good - bids are increasing though. Still a bargain. Try to pay with PayPal for the coverage.

Knappo 1307 · 9 October 2013, 11:33 PM

I see no red flags.....

chiggah · 10 October 2013, 12:09 AM

Hey guys, I live in New Zealand. Should any AD in my city be able to verify its authenticity for $100 or so ? You guys recommend me doing so ?

I will be calling them but I've heard mixed stories that some AD will only do valuation but not authenticate, because involves pulling out the case etc.

Below is the AD in my city. Apologies for the multiple newbie questions, as this is my first real watch. Never even had a gshock before

http://www.rolex.com/rolex-dealers/d...lexdealers.com

powerfunk · 10 October 2013, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

I see no red flags.....

I do! The fact that the seller has made all of the auction links in their feedback private.

I've bought about a half-dozen Rolexes on eBay and I 100% avoid sellers like this. Why doesn't he want you to see what he's been selling? 16610's are just way too easy to find to bother working with people like this IMHO.

chiggah · 10 October 2013, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerfunk

I do! The fact that the seller has made all of the auction links in their feedback private.

I've bought about a half-dozen Rolexes on eBay and I 100% avoid sellers like this. Why doesn't he want you to see what he's been selling? 16610's are just way too easy to find to bother working with people like this IMHO.

Yeah i follow you man, totally agree.

I saw his feedback score just now and had 1 negative and a bunch of private listing

The ebay one is probably gonna end up around $4.8k or so but I think I would rather pay a bit more to reputable sellers on TRF, just for my peace of mind

bayerische · 10 October 2013, 02:21 AM

Looks allright.

mfnj · 10 October 2013, 06:04 AM

why buy anything on EBAY and lose sleep when you can buy the same watch from a number of trusted and reliable TRF sellers for a few dollars more and sleep like a baby?

crowncollection · 10 October 2013, 06:08 AM

Looks ok

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Knappo 1307 · 10 October 2013, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerfunk

I do! The fact that the seller has made all of the auction links in their feedback private.

I've bought about a half-dozen Rolexes on eBay and I 100% avoid sellers like this. Why doesn't he want you to see what he's been selling? 16610's are just way too easy to find to bother working with people like this IMHO.

I don't !! The seller has over 300 feedbacks. In my experience scammers have 0 or a few feedbacks, mostly from making small purchases. Also scammers use a stock description, this description doesn't really raise any red flags. The fact their feedback is private doesn't bother me...

mrbill2mrbill2 · 10 October 2013, 08:48 AM

The bezel pearl looks off to me. It may be the pics. But I would look elsewhere.

handsfull · 10 October 2013, 08:57 AM

Private feedback = something to hide. Not interested.

chiggah · 10 October 2013, 02:36 PM

He did not show me the serial on the watch. But is it too much trouble to ask the seller to remove the band in order to see the serial ?

Nevertheless, if i do get the watch, i will probably go to a local AD to get it authenticated if they can ?

However, with that being said, I have read mixed reviews from forum posts that some AD can only do valuation and not authenticate 100% ?

He removed an extra link to fit his 7" wrist which is pretty similar to my wrist measurement

9 October 2013, 01:39 PM	#1
chiggah "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Asia Posts: 15	Legit check : Rolex Submariner 16610 Z series Apologies if this is the incorrect subforum to post this. Mods feel free to move my post to the appropriate section. Looking at this one here but hard to tell. Any experienced collectors can give me some input ? Cheers http://www.ebay.com/itm/rolex-submar...-/261302463612

9 October 2013, 03:29 PM	#2
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,449	Nothing jumped out at me as being unusual, but we shall see what the more knowledgeable have to say. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

9 October 2013, 10:02 PM	#6
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	Looks good - bids are increasing though. Still a bargain. Try to pay with PayPal for the coverage. __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

10 October 2013, 02:21 AM	#11
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Looks allright. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

10 October 2013, 06:08 AM	#13
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,215	Looks ok Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free __________________ watches many

9 October 2013, 04:50 PM	#3
chiggah "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Asia Posts: 15	I emailed the seller and he said the following : "It's authentic. if you don't believe me, go on some watch forums and ask them to check it out for you. that's the best advice i can give." I mean his response is pretty normal and vague, but if there are any specific questions i should ask or confront him, please do let me know

9 October 2013, 05:16 PM	#4
bondtoys "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: World Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,733	I can't see anything wrong with the seller's advise. He told you that it's authentic - it's always good to have more and independent opinions - such as from a forum.

9 October 2013, 07:24 PM	#5
Phllox "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Paris Posts: 73	As said on WUS, it looks authentic to me. Maybe you can ask for extra pictures just to check that serial on papers match with serial on the watch

9 October 2013, 11:33 PM	#7
Knappo 1307 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 8,561	I see no red flags.....

10 October 2013, 12:09 AM	#8
chiggah "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Asia Posts: 15	Hey guys, I live in New Zealand. Should any AD in my city be able to verify its authenticity for $100 or so ? You guys recommend me doing so ? I will be calling them but I've heard mixed stories that some AD will only do valuation but not authenticate, because involves pulling out the case etc. Below is the AD in my city. Apologies for the multiple newbie questions, as this is my first real watch. Never even had a gshock before http://www.rolex.com/rolex-dealers/d...lexdealers.com

10 October 2013, 06:04 AM	#12
mfnj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 630	why buy anything on EBAY and lose sleep when you can buy the same watch from a number of trusted and reliable TRF sellers for a few dollars more and sleep like a baby?

10 October 2013, 08:48 AM	#15
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	The bezel pearl looks off to me. It may be the pics. But I would look elsewhere. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

10 October 2013, 08:57 AM	#16
handsfull "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: J Location: The great Midwest Watch: youlookinat? Posts: 2,369	Private feedback = something to hide. Not interested.

10 October 2013, 02:36 PM	#17
chiggah "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Asia Posts: 15	He did not show me the serial on the watch. But is it too much trouble to ask the seller to remove the band in order to see the serial ? Nevertheless, if i do get the watch, i will probably go to a local AD to get it authenticated if they can ? However, with that being said, I have read mixed reviews from forum posts that some AD can only do valuation and not authenticate 100% ? He removed an extra link to fit his 7" wrist which is pretty similar to my wrist measurement

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