Ref. 6535???

[jorgesca]

Hi guys,
I'm trying to determine the authenticity of this Rolex watch, that if it's all original unrestored, I'm trying to buy. From what I could search, this mostly resembles an Oyster Perpetual Date Ref. 6535.

Pictures are really bad, but that's what the seller has listed.

• SWISS at 6. Not T Swiss T like newer versions.
• Bezel seems from 6535.
• Superlative "Chronometer Officially Certified" would be from a 1501 or newer. Instead of "Officially Certified Chronometer".
• Dials look from a Ref. 1501 or 15000

What do you guys think? It is about $1500, trying to get it at $1300 if original.

[jorgesca]

Or could it be a Ref 15210?

[andromeda160]

Ref 1501 from the early 70's. Most likely redialed should be T Swiss T, dial config isn't from the 50's

[jorgesca]

Have you seen a "Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified" Swiss only dial??? I thought that "certification" implied is newer and the Swiss thing implied is older.

[R.W.T.]

The dial photo is terrible...no offense but one can't ascertain anything from that photo.

It IS a 1501 or at least a 15xx with a 1501 bezel. One can sense this because of the shape of the case back which is different than the 1036 equipped 6535.

Unless it is completely cobbled with a 15xx back which would indeed fit and with a thick enough gasket work.

The dial is possibly original. The reference was certainly made during the period where it could have said SCOC on the dial and said SWISS only at the bottom.


That would have been early 60's.

That in and of itself is not a deal breaker. The change to stick markers and hands also sort of concurrent.

Though this is likely not that, an early 90's service dial might also say that.

It may in fact be a refinished dial. That still doesn't hurt it terribly as that is a pretty easy dial to come by.

You kind of need better photo of the dial and more information...serial number, reference between lugs...then you can know what you have.

Otherwise you're gambling and that's cool too...sometimes you get a great deal from a gamble.

The parts are worth close to 1300.

[jorgesca]

Thanks R.W.T, appreciate the response. I agree the photos are really bad, but don't want to ask for better ones and risk the "bargain".

The seller uploaded a couple of pictures of the movement. It has a 1570 movement, and from the below link I see it should one of these models: 1002, 1003, 1005, 1007, 1008, 1009, 1010, 1011, 1012, 1013, 1016, 1018, 1022, 1023, 1024, 1025, 1027, 1029, 1030, 1031, 1035, 1036, 1038, 1039,1500, 5512.

These doesn't list the 1501, and it clearly has a 1501 bezel.

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-bl...back-1950.html

[jorgesca]

[R.W.T.]

1501 1500 same watch different bezel.

Movement would be the same.

Serial range?

[jorgesca]

Serial is 2521xxx. What does that tells us?

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by jorgesca

Serial is 2521xxx. What does that tells us?

Around 67/68

[R.W.T.]

I think it's a bit later 1970.

It tell us that the dial is wrong...at the very least and probably I would bet refinished.

I may have the correct dial.

I always forget to check when I say that but I think I have a 1570 Date dial in silver with silver markers.

[jorgesca]

That would need to have the pointy dials right? Don't know what they are called.

[R.W.T.]

Nope just an ordinary stick dial with stick hands.

But it would say T SWISS T on the bottom.

[R.W.T.]

I have a mint dial for this watch. BTW.

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by R.W.T.

I have a mint dial for this watch. BTW.

I've probably asked already, but no clean swiss onlys by any chance?

[gregorpal]

100% original, nothing wrong with the dial

[R.W.T.]

Originally Posted by gregorpal

100% original, nothing wrong with the dial

I'm not sure anything conclusive can be said about that that dial from the photo shown.

The watch is from 70. Dials from that period don't say SWISS without anything else.

The dial appears to have lume dots and the hands appear to be lume hands.

The dial would indicate that with T for tritium in 1970. Even non lume dials most often said T SWISS T

The dial is either reprinted or older than the watch.