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6 June 2008, 08:02 AM
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possible to fake papers too?
Some regulars here know that I am still looking for that perfect buy for a GMT Pepsi. Recently saw one on ebay (Year 2006)that also had papers, but at an unbelievable price of $2075 -- immediate purchase. The watch seems fine, of course. But can they fake the papers and booklets as well?
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6 June 2008, 08:07 AM
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6 June 2008, 08:09 AM
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Yup. Having box, papers, booklets etc. does not necessarily make the Rolex real.
The paper certificates can be faked. Boxes can, too (or be bought separately) as can the booklets. The modern Credit Card Certificates (CCC) are much tougher to fake due to "ROLEXROLEX" writing on it being visible under infrared lighting only). Here the "CCC" as it looks to the naked eye:  Under infrared lighthing:  (Pics from a German watch forum).
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6 June 2008, 08:10 AM
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Great to see you again Mike! Would you take a look at this thread? Point number 1 against -- he is in Italy, where they have a very strong Rolex market.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting Let me know what you think... |
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6 June 2008, 08:14 AM
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That is really cool, Bo.
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6 June 2008, 08:18 AM
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P.S. Mike: Don't you go buying this out from under me to add to your fabulous collection!
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6 June 2008, 08:22 AM
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On the listing:
"Function & Features: Day & Date, Water Resistant, Alarm"   Well, anyway... The watch looks fine to me. BUT as you state, the price is too good to be true for a fairly new and minty GMT II. The seller's feedback are not impressive.
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6 June 2008, 08:26 AM
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6 June 2008, 08:31 AM
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Bo gave a great tip about the feedback. Not much negative there, but when you look at exactly what he has sold, it's all for items between 3 and 10 dollars (including a pack of diapers to a German!). I've heard about those that rack up a big feedback list with crap, then go for the kill. Maybe this is one of those...
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6 June 2008, 08:34 AM
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Agreed. I'd not burn my fingers on this one if I were you.
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6 June 2008, 08:36 AM
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On the other hand...
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6 June 2008, 08:36 AM
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Well those are good points. I can't read Italian. Might be a pirated photo.
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6 June 2008, 08:39 AM
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The old pirated photo trick, 99...
Guess there's no free lunch today! |
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6 June 2008, 08:42 AM
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thats not all that cheap,I have seen a couple that have sold for around 2,600 to 3,000
so I dont know that it is all that amazing,just doesnt happen every day,but maybee every couple of weeks instead. |
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6 June 2008, 08:46 AM
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If it seems to good to be true it generally is, I hope you do not get burnt.
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6 June 2008, 08:48 AM
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Well, I think the fact that he sold a 32 pack of Pampers is pretty much sealing the deal now. My search continues...
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6 June 2008, 08:55 AM
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z series with all real paps and boxes. whats your budget???????? |
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6 June 2008, 09:13 AM
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Paypal offer up to $200 protection on this auction.
That would mean just $2500 lost when the scam unfolds.
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6 June 2008, 09:36 AM
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Bo, is it infrared or ultraviolet lighting? I thought it should be ultraviolet since this is the standard way to spot fake money or cheques. I don't hear people using infrared lights other than thermo imaging.
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6 June 2008, 09:44 AM
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Might be ultraviolet. I just seem to recall reading "infrared" on the German watch forum. The member had bought a special light for the purpose.
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6 June 2008, 09:52 AM
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A brand new one was $5075 6 mos. ago. I would hope a real one would hold its value much better than that...."Pass"
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