Yacht-master II for AP Royal Oak Diver?

[Chadridv]

So I know I've been all over the radar lately in regards to hunting down the next piece.

I've been strongly considering Rolex Precious Metal, which most likely means flipping my YMII and possibly my LVC too (if i replace them with a PM Sub).

Anyway, here's the thought process. Before I got my YMII I strongly considered and debate the DSSD as well as the AP Diver.

I've definitely had my fears about taking the leap into AP. It's kind of like I've been vacationing in the same place for 20 years, and now I'm considering trying some place new. But the original place just feels like home. OK, blah blah, you get it.

So here's where I'm at. I've been infatuated with the AP Diver for longer than the DSSD and the YMII. I love the look, the strap versatility, the feel and of course contextual history of the Audemars Piguet. If i was to seriously consider leaving my SS days behind me for PM, part of me feels like I need to knock the AP Diver off my horological bucket list.

Does picking up the AP Diver before transitioning to PM make sense?

There is always the option of just keeping what I have, while avoiding the mid winter desire for a new piece. I do realize enjoying my current collection may be the best and most affordable move.

So what do you guys think about the two watches and my situation?

Oh current rotation is more or less three watches...
Yacht-Master II 116680
LVC Submariner - 116610LV
Tudor Black Bay Black

Thanks!

My YMII

AP Diver at AD

[s14roller]

I would. AP finishing is on a different level, one that you're appreciate once you have spent more time with it. Enjoy!

[beer]

i would go for a higher end watch before PM then add the PM later

[ltmgeller]

I wouldn't. But then I'm a Rolex addict.

[locutus49]

I would go PM Rolex.

[bio guyver]

Ym2 is the king here.

[Le Chef]

Originally Posted by beer

i would go for a higher end watch before PM then add the PM later

Agree 100%. Going pm doesn't improve the movement, so no quality increase. The AP is an awesome piece.

[axjimenez]

Tough call, though I would lean towards the AP.

[antbkny]

I like the AP Diver, and am considering adding one. But that photo you've posted of the DSSD on your wrist looks best to me!

[Cru Jones]

For the ceramic Diver, yes. Otherwise, for me, personally, YMII feels more "special" than the SS Diver.

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

For the ceramic Diver, yes. Otherwise, for me, personally, YMII feels more "special" than the SS Diver.

I agree with Cru here ... One of the ROO Chronos would be a different story, but out of these two, I prefer the YM II.

[Abdullasaif]

Ill be honest i love the YM2 but i the AP is super different but you already have a dive watch so i would go with another AP

[Deego]

I wouldn't ! But that's me...I prefer the YMII !


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[AK797]

I had a Diver then went PM Rolex then PM AP so...

[motoikkyu]

To my untrained eye, both watches wear splendidly on your wrist, can't help you with the decision.

[Hairdude1]

Ap

[Watch This]

I can speak from recent experience. Had the BLNR which I flipped for a BNIB AP Diver. The AP lasted 6 weeks. Fine craftsmanship, yes. High end movement, yes. Cool piece, yes. But....

The AP negatives were 1. Ultra scratch magnet on an unforgiving bezel. 2. Kept lousy time. 3. Service costs freaked me out. 4. The straps are very expensive and very difficult to change. I could not possibly change the strap myself. 5. Tough daily wearer.

Went with the YMII SS. After many, many Rolex I have finally found one that I will never part with. It's so different, so unique, seldom seen, tremendous wrist presence, gorgeous ceramic blue bezel, great size and just so weird, I love it.

I would not part with the YMII if I were you. AP are awesome watches but a lot more "fragile" in my mind than Rolex. Fragile may not be the best descriptive word but I'm sure you get what I mean. Good luck.

Edited to add... the AP Diver totally useless inner bezel adjuster (with its cheap rubber casing) at 10 o'clock just always looked out of place to me. On my AP also, the inner bezel did not align at 12:00. Not even close. That bothered me on a watch at that price point.

[Lordofrolex]

I like the YM II more. Love AP. I personally don't like the divers though.

[Watchflair]

AP hands down-but the real question is which one speaks to you? Any inclination between having both on the wrist?

[Rolex57]

I always heard the AP's maintenance fees were ridiculous. I consider it the Audi of watches.

One guy on youtube sent his in, the fees to fix it was something like $3500. Crazy.

But hey, if you got the funds to pay for maintaining something that sounds so unreliable...........

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by Rolex57

I always heard the AP's maintenance fees were ridiculous. I consider it the Audi of watches.

One guy on youtube sent his in, the fees to fix it was something like $3500. Crazy.

But hey, if you got the funds to pay for maintaining something that sounds so unreliable...........

If it is on the internet .. it must be true!

[kirksingleton]

I would stick with the YM2 if it were me.

[Le Chef]

Originally Posted by Rolex57

I always heard the AP's maintenance fees were ridiculous. I consider it the Audi of watches.

One guy on youtube sent his in, the fees to fix it was something like $3500. Crazy.

But hey, if you got the funds to pay for maintaining something that sounds so unreliable...........

I heard on the internet that the moon was made of cheese, so it must be true!

Reality - ask AP owners how reliable their watches are and what they have paid for service, rather than believing unsubstantiated crap likely from someone who has never owned an AP. Mine btw. has been 100% reliable from Day 1. You can also call AP directly and ask them what they charge for servicing. Now there's a novel thought...

[speedmaster73]

AP diver hands down. Mine runs +2 per day. Cheap???...lol..ok....

Scratch magnet?.not quite....these comments usually come from those same guys afraid of PCLs.......

No more a scratch magnet than a rolex explorer 2.......

[h999r]

I would .

[Watch This]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

AP diver hands down. Mine runs +2 per day. Cheap???...lol..ok....

Scratch magnet?.not quite....these comments usually come from those same guys afraid of PCLs.......

No more a scratch magnet than a rolex explorer 2.......

I was referring only to the rubber sleeves covering both stems when I used the word cheap. Scratch magnet is language I will stand by. I love PCLs. AP was the only watch I have ever owned that I constantly felt conscious about dings. The fine finish and daily abuse don't blend well IMHO.

[kilyung]

Answer this first: how paranoid are you about scratches?

[Rolex57]

Originally Posted by masterserg

If it is on the internet .. it must be true!

Check out Archieluxury on youtube. He's the one who posted regarding repairs for his AP.

[Ampz]

AP on this one. You'll very rarely hear me say that.

[tkerrmd]

Originally Posted by locutus49

I would go PM Rolex.

Would be all in for Rolex PM, you won't regret it