Che Guevarra

[VESUVIO]

I recently saw a picture of Che Guevarra wearing a SS Submariner in a special edition watch magazine dedicate to Rolex.
The article described Che Guevarra wearing a SS Submariner during his Guerrilla fighting days.
Can you believe that such a symbol of capitalism was worn on the wrist of this great anti-capitalist. I guess that quality is appreciated and recognized regardless of political convictions.

[Defiancekofb]

Typical politician, say one thing, do another.

Look at Elliot Spitzer, in the past he was responsible for shutting down the previous prostitution ring his own hooker used to be employed in. But when Client #9 needed some *SERVICES*, he had no problem utilizing them, even though he shut down a few in the past.

[jdc]

As George Orwell wrote in Animal Farm his satire on communism: -

“All animals are equal but some are more equal than others”

[rescue7]

Originally Posted by VESUVIO

I recently saw a picture of Che Guevarra wearing a SS Submariner in a special edition watch magazine dedicate to Rolex.
The article described Che Guevarra wearing a SS Submariner during his Guerrilla fighting days.
Can you believe that such a symbol of capitalism was worn on the wrist of this great anti-capitalist. I guess that quality is appreciated and recognized regardless of political convictions.

If you look closely it's NOT a S/S Sub but a black bezel S/S GMT.

[Trurolexer]

I saw a pic that Osama smoking Marlboro.
Why he smoking an American cigarette?

[Ed Rooney]

Osama also wears an American BDU field jacket, Made in USA.

Shoes are probably Chinese, though.

You have to remember that in Che's day a Sub or GMT was simply a rugged, reliable watch. It was not excessively expensive. He did not have the option of a quartz or g-shock.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Originally Posted by Trurolexer

I saw a pic that Osama smoking Marlboro.
Why he smoking an American cigarette?

The better question is why is he telling everyone he quit, when he didn't?

[Trurolexer]

Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel

The better question is why is he telling everyone he quit, when he didn't?

He quit? Nah, he just starting smoking...

[toph]

Yeah a few of us mentioned this before- they are only socialists when it suits them

[jdc]

Originally Posted by rescue7

If you look closely it's NOT a S/S Sub but a black bezel S/S GMT.

I thought it was a submariner 5513.

[astcell]

I like the video of Musawi wearing brand name American sneakers. And how about when Saddam's some were found loading a BILLION dollars on a truck? It was all AMERICAN money! So much for hating us, they need us!

[Chris B]

It was a GMT & now belongs to this guy http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKroderiguez.htm , who certainly deserved it better than the other T Shirt emblazoned POS

[SKSeoul81]

Originally Posted by astcell

It was all AMERICAN money! So much for hating us, they need us!

And the US needs them... or you need their oil

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Yup, as stated he wore a GMT. The pic in question is in black and white and also not showing the watch bezel too well. This could make the Rolex appear being a Sub.

[TempoKing]

Dr. Ernesto Rafael Guevara De la Serna
14 June 1928 - 9 October 1967

Maybe some would think that he was politically misquided, but to me because I was born in the cradle of democracy (Greece) and because I live in the center of democracy (USA) I accept his views as valid for him, I disagree with them, but that does no make "Che" any less patriotic than I am.
Any man that read Nehru, Camus, Sartre & Aristotle along with examining Bertrand Russell on love and patriotism, Jack London on society and Nietzsche on the idea of death as well as having a tremendous passion for poetry by Neruda, Keats, Lorca and Whitman, clearly is a man of quality.
Was he wrong to try and overthrow dictator Fulgencio Batista..? You tell me !

He had an excellent taste in Cigars and Swiss watches !
...like me so to speak...lol

[Trurolexer]

Originally Posted by SKSeoul81

And the US needs them... or you need their oil

[vjb.knife]

From what I heard Che stole it from some one they killed, just as many of the people in Cuba were robbed of their businesses and belongings. I prefer to earn what I own.

I know one of the Special Forces Guys that trained the Bolivian Army Troops that caught and killed Che. He actually sort of admired him in a strange way but not for his politics or thievery. He gave me a copy of Che's Reminiscences and the Bolivian Diaries which are an interesting read.

[mfer]

I don't understand why Che is always perceived as a good guy.

[DSJ]

He was a murderer and terrorist. Good article in our latest YAF magazine, and a little youtube blurb here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5g24XFTbXc

And another YouTube expose:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQa6X...eature=related

[beamon]

Originally Posted by jdc

As George Orwell wrote in Animal Farm his satire on communism: -

“All animals are equal but some are more equal than others”

No to put too fine a point on it, but I believe his exact quote used "pigs" rather than "animals". Point taken, however.

[ratae1950]

Originally Posted by DSJ

He was a murderer and terrorist. Good article in our latest YAF magazine, and a little youtube blurb here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5g24XFTbXc

And another YouTube expose:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQa6X...eature=related

Sounds like a quote from George III
http://memory.loc.gov/learn/features...s/address.html

[HYDROMAROC]

Originally Posted by jdc

As George Orwell wrote in Animal Farm his satire on communism: -

“All animals are equal but some are more equal than others”

"Two legs baaad, Four legs goood"....

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by beamon

No to put too fine a point on it, but I believe his exact quote used "pigs" rather than "animals". Point taken, however.

My edition (1963) says :


"For once Benjamin consented to break his rule, and he read out to her what was written on the wall. There was nothing there now except a single Commandment. It ran:
ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL
BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS"

[HYDROMAROC]

"Everyone" around the world bad mouths the U.S.A. ( at least that is what our liberal government media complex spins to the people )

Last time I checked, there is no line of people wanting to leave, but people are willing to risk their lives ( and sometimes, die...) to get in....

Just my regarding why everyone wants American items

There, my mini-rant is over....

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by ratae1950

Sounds like a quote from George III
http://memory.loc.gov/learn/features...s/address.html

Poor old Georgie boy.

Them blinking colonies not paying their dues. All King G wanted was to "dip his beak".

[Wolfgang427]

Originally Posted by VESUVIO

I recently saw a picture of Che Guevarra wearing a SS Submariner in a special edition watch magazine dedicate to Rolex.
The article described Che Guevarra wearing a SS Submariner during his Guerrilla fighting days.
Can you believe that such a symbol of capitalism was worn on the wrist of this great anti-capitalist. I guess that quality is appreciated and recognized regardless of political convictions.

Who do you think gave it to him?

[Ed Rooney]

Originally Posted by vjb.knife

From what I heard Che stole it from some one they killed, just as many of the people in Cuba were robbed of their businesses and belongings. I prefer to earn what I own.

I know one of the Special Forces Guys that trained the Bolivian Army Troops that caught and killed Che. He actually sort of admired him in a strange way but not for his politics or thievery. He gave me a copy of Che's Reminiscences and the Bolivian Diaries which are an interesting read.

I don't know how he acquired it, but he was executed without due process by Bolivian gov't forces and his watch was stolen/confiscated by an American CIA operative.

Just like Mike Tyson, he "faded into bolivian".

[tszyu#1]

Originally Posted by mfer

I don't understand why Che is always perceived as a good guy.

Thank you! I love seeing these 'hipsters' that invaded and took over Williamsburg in Brooklyn proudly wearing their Che t shirts cause it's the cool thing to do. Meanwhile they probably don't realize he killed hundreds of people. OT, but these hipsters scoot into a previously bad neighborhood, make it 'cool', jack up the rent cause a good portion of them are out of towner transplant trust fund babies with mommy and daddy sending rent $ every month, then the old tenants are forced to move out. Harlem, Washington Heights, Bed Stuy, Williamsburg, Red Hook, Ft. Greene, Bushwick, etc. Gentrification is not a bad thing, but when these guys walk around all smug like they own the place I wouldn't mind knocking a few on their asses. Sorry bout the rant

[Marrk]

That's the thing about these communist pigs. They are murderers and terrorists. And, according to TempoKing, some of 'em read books, for chrissake!

Not like our guys, who have gone on record as saying that they have authorized kidnapping, torture and murder. They are also on record as saying they don't read books. Right on!

Trurolexer needs to start a new poll: Are TRF-ers politcally Rightwing and Conservative, Leftwing and Liberal, or No wing and Moderate.

Originally Posted by DSJ

He was a murderer and terrorist. Good article in our latest YAF magazine, and a little youtube blurb here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5g24XFTbXc

And another YouTube expose:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQa6X...eature=related

[ratae1950]

Originally Posted by Marrk

That's the thing about these communist pigs. They are murderers and terrorists. And, according to TempoKing, some of 'em read books, for chrissake!

Not like our guys, who have gone on record as saying that they have authorized kidnapping, torture and murder. They are also on record as saying they don't read books. Right on!

Trurolexer needs to start a new poll: Are TRF-ers politcally Rightwing and Conservative, Leftwing and Liberal, or No wing and Moderate.

Unfortunately it's tough for us to criticise the bad guys when our own government sanctions torure.