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Old 6 July 2008, 01:02 AM   #31
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I know you didn't say it, Larry, but you implicated yourself as a "fellow traveler" when you agreed to it.

All kidding aside, I addressed you by name in my query because I figured you would have some good info. And you did not let us down.

By the way, I would prefer it if, in the future, you would not use the phrase "break the jewels."


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Well...

I didn't say it, I only agreed to the statement and I suppose you would have to define "shaking"

The shock systems on watches are located at the pivots of the balance specifically to "give" a bit when the balance wheel is thrown about in the case. This can be from dropping, jarring, and too agressive shaking. While Rolex has alleviated the problem of a tangled hairspring and one getting cought on the balance cock somewhat by using a full balance bridge, the fact is that "shaken watch Syndrome" can snap the balance staff, break the jewels, or bang the pallet against the escapement wheel and break things, and tangle the hairspring (cause some windings to jump onto others)..

But keep in mind, my definition of shaking is agressiively whipping the watch to and fro without regard for the consequences.

Many folks might equate shaking with the rapid rotating of the wrist to wind their watch (I do this sometimes) or the swirling that JJ and Bo speak about....or perhaps shaking or winding in a "frisbee flip" motion; I don't think these actions can readily break the watch but definitely will affect the amplitude...
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Old 6 July 2008, 01:08 AM   #32
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To add to Larry's comments, as I'm the originator of the shaking comment:

The action Bo describes is a rather vigorous shake side to side of the watch, rather aggressively, in order to speed it up a little. Normal activities such as dealing with a cocktail shaker, the occasional knock against an object, driving, closing a door, riding a bicycle etc etc shouldn't do too much permanent damage. After all, we're talking about Rolex here. The aggressive deliberate kind however, could lead to permanent damage. Wear and tear of mechanical parts, epecially metal pivots etc, are accumulative and also progressive.
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Old 6 July 2008, 01:32 AM   #33
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A Google search yielded this answer:

Rolex Watch U.S.A., Inc.
665 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10022
212-758-7700

Professional Watch Repair Corp.
2651 North Harwood
Dallas, TX 75201
214-871-0500

Professional Watch Repair Center
9420 Wilshire Boulevard
Beverly Hills, CA 90212
310-271-6200

Good luck with your watch.

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Old 6 July 2008, 02:48 AM   #34
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A Google search yielded this answer:

Rolex Watch U.S.A., Inc.
665 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10022
212-758-7700

Professional Watch Repair Corp.
2651 North Harwood
Dallas, TX 75201
214-871-0500

Professional Watch Repair Center
9420 Wilshire Boulevard
Beverly Hills, CA 90212
310-271-6200

Good luck with your watch.

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Old 6 July 2008, 08:58 PM   #35
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Update - I set my SS Sub/Date to the Official US Time last night and did not manually wind it. I'm spot-on as of 7:00am EST this morning.
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Old 6 July 2008, 09:23 PM   #36
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Robert, if that's the case, then please check for another 24 hours, then wind and check again for another 24 hours.

It really seems to me there might be some issues with the mainspring assembly.
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Old 6 July 2008, 09:53 PM   #37
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When not wound at all, just worn everyday -4 seconds per day



wound every other day 40 times -1.5 to 2.0 second per day


to me this is super accurate for a mechanical movement.
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It sounds like you need to get the mainspring looked at. Optimum torque loads are achieved in the full to half wind power band. It sounds like tension issues in the main spring.

I do not see how winding can effect the amplitude of the balance, seeing as winding only adds tension to the main spring.

Shaking a watch can effect the amplitude as the balance is being subjected to jarring and movement which puts it out of alignment. This is not to be recommended as it puts unnecessary stress on the balance pivot not to mention the delicate balance spring.
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To add to Larry's comments, as I'm the originator of the shaking comment:

The action Bo describes is a rather vigorous shake side to side of the watch, rather aggressively, in order to speed it up a little. Normal activities such as dealing with a cocktail shaker, the occasional knock against an object, driving, closing a door, riding a bicycle etc etc shouldn't do too much permanent damage. After all, we're talking about Rolex here. The aggressive deliberate kind however, could lead to permanent damage. Wear and tear of mechanical parts, epecially metal pivots etc, are accumulative and also progressive.
Actually, the motion is neither vigorous nor aggressive.

It's even less vigorous than if you shake a cocktail shaker. I have asked my AD watchmakers about this more than once and all agree that it will NOT harm your Rolex.
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