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13 April 2016, 11:48 AM | #1 |
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New Nautilus line soon?
I believe I saw on Instagram last week or so an invitation from Patek Philippe to a Nautilus launch event in June. I am trying to find that post again, but just can’t remember which profile had it. Did anyone get that? Is it official that there will be a new Nautilus line in two months to mark its 40th anniversary?
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That would be earlier than I thought, which would be great
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My AD got a similar invitation right after Basel
But they did not show new models
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We were getting indications it would be more like Autumn.
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Well line not really sure what you mean, they won't change them all, but 1 maybe 2 should be retired, guessing 5711, and should be replaced, the 5711 if replaced will be rplaced by a very similar one, they won't stop the "original" model production, but they might upgrade it for new tastes, maybe very slightly bigger, that will make most guys here yell, should be fun, and I would be expecting 1-2 existing models to get new dials or new metals, in an interview Stern talked about more blue in many models, people love blue, so if they made a blue dial 5990 and 5726 I wouldn't be very surprised, and also they might introduce for the 40th one with different complications, the biggest guess for now is perpetual calendar, maybe a limited edition as well but that's just a guess, in any case with the huge popularity of the SS models, in France you can't even be put on line for one, too many people, and the 40th they will clearly have a few surprises for us...
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My other guesses about anniversary models would be 5980 in platinum, a brand new PC model in steel, and maybe, just maybe a rubber strap version of the Nautilus. Afterall, the Aquanaut is available (or has been available?) on both rubber strap and steel bracelet, and the Nautilus has been available on leather strap, so why not rubber + Nautilus?
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A few questions re: the expected new Nautilus references for those "in the know":
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
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I think there are enough big sized ones already with the 5980 and the 5990, the 5711 and 5712 will stay. The 5726 will probably go and be replaced by another blue dial Version
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2) I _think_ it would work just as with other high-end, highly sought after Patek platinum pieces that close the lifespan of a certain model. So IMHO it would be manufactured for only 1 year (or max. 2 years), in limited quantities. Not really a limited edition, so it wouldn't be numbered at all. But the astonishingly high price tag (I expect well over USD $100K for a Pt 5980) would limit the market for such a time piece anyway. I don't think Patek would make more than 200 or 300 pieces of a Pt 5980. And I don't think it's fair to compare the Pt 5980 against the Pt 5711, since the latter was never unveiled or published as an official model. It was more of an urban legend that turned out to be reality :) 3) Patek already has got a Nautilus AC (5726), even with a moon phase on the dial. Even though it's my favorite Nautilus version, I'm not entirely sure if putting a moonphase or AC complication in a sports watch make perfect sense. But it's there, for years, and I personally like it very much. Now, a PC complication, even though has a place higher on the "horology ladder", has a higher prestige associated with a higher price tag, is not exactly that much more complicated of a movement than an AC. Just compare the number of components that Patek needs to build an AC and a PC movement, both automatic: AC: Cal. 324 S IRM QA LU (of 5146): 355 parts / 5.32mm thick PC: Cal. 240 Q (of 5140): 275 parts / 3.88mm thick So if you want to build a Nautilus with the same WR and same case thickness than the 5726, then it should be quite possible to do that with a micro-rotor movement like the 240Q. The major issue IMHO is that the dial layout of most Patek PC models wouldn't be appropriate for a sports watch, especially one that has got a non-round dial. If Patek really decided to build a PC Nautilus, its biggest challenge will be the dial layout. It must be legible and sporty, but not similar to the 5726 dial layout. Something like the 5205 would work if it had a round dial... Or maybe they indicate the month with a hand and the hour markers as months (like the Sky-Dweller and the Omega Globemaster AC).
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New Nautilus line soon?
In that audio only interview the journalist says " the 5711 is the ultimate steel sports watch" and Mr. Stern replies " for now,yes" made me wonder if the 5711 is getting replaced
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Bring on some platinum, maybe something a little larger and something maybe...oh, I don't know...interesting (material, case, shape, dial--something)? PP, IMHO, needs a little ummmf in the sports line. Here's to hoping (oh and PLEASE change that darn bracelet clasp!) OFF SOAPBOX |
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Having just decided to buy a 5711 and having a blue dial sitting sealed at an AD, I'm now debating whether to buy it if is being replaced.
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It would be cool to see the Nautilus with a quick change strap system like VC did with the Overseas where you could easily go between bracelet, leather strap and rubber.
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I don't think you have anything to worry about on the 5711. The 3700 has not been effected since the 5711. As a matter of fact, it has risen.
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Would Patek dare to do a ceramic bezel version I wonder? It is a sports watch so more resilient materials are surely a good idea?
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Then there’s the investment needed purely for one model line in R&D, tooling, and training (and QC!). Any chance they may have considered it seriously has probably died due to the amount being spent on the new building works. I highly doubt we’ll see ceramics play any part in Patek’s future. |
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Maybe a rare handcraft enamel dial like the world time, similar to the Lake Geneva one that was for the 175th.
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I think a PC Nautilus is definitely possible. Patek has made PCs in tonneau-shaped cases for quite a while and it would not be impossible to produce one in a Nautilus case. I still feel they will revise the 5711/1A and modify the dial and/or case and introduce a new reference number. But let's see what they introduce later this year. |
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Can't wait for these anniversary models.
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Maybe by removing the Breguet hour indexes and using more modern, more progressive font for the subdials would help. But still, a movement innovation like the single subdial chronograph (of the 5980) would make it a more special piece.
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Great discussion, as I'm about to pull the trigger on a current model. Might anyone have any idea how many of the complicated Nautilus pieces are produced?
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rather with the regulator dial (Caliber W31-260 REG QA)that d be really hot
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