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RUK · 12 April 2016, 03:25 AM

Just watched this video of Jean-Claude Biver try to justify the design of the black on black Hublot. He paints such a beautiful picture and sets the tone and makes up an amazing reality to sell a product.

I've heard him trying to Justify the Hublot Big Bang and trying to say it is as original as a Nautilus and a Royal Oak... And now this .He could sell sell sand in the Sahara I'd say!

Great respect for his old work with AP,Omega,but as good a story teller as he is, I am not sold at all on his newer design and marketing ideas. There comes a time when you can't push the envelope that far and expect to get away with it.

Video here https://youtu.be/55ve5tFI_HU

JP Chestnut · 13 April 2016, 11:14 AM

Huge blow. Nothing more to say about them.

Hairdude1 · 13 April 2016, 02:28 PM

Agreed, he can hype up almost anything. Hublot does nothing for me

lapince · 13 April 2016, 02:57 PM

Or maybe it's us who don't understand anything and Hublow is really high horology instead of just some marketing crap, who knows

SearChart · 13 April 2016, 05:39 PM

Not a Hublot fan myself but I do admire Mr Biver, his accomplishments in the watch industry are incredible.

Sumitaro · 13 April 2016, 06:27 PM

Nice try Old man but Hublot is still hyped JUNK

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PattayaHammerTime · 13 April 2016, 06:54 PM

gotta love the haters....

i'm a Hublot fan, went to the 10 years Big Bang dinner last year in London.... don't see many other brands hosting things like that for their clients?

Gave me an additional 2 years warranty on both my watches as well...

No complaints here

Matt C · 13 April 2016, 07:56 PM

There are many blacked out pieces, just because this one is Hublot, it's no good?? These posts have to stop.

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Israguard · 13 April 2016, 08:10 PM

One thing I find funny on the forum. Whatever happened to "nice but not my taste" and people move on.

Instead some bash and bash hard... And not realizing that some like it and may have spent huge $ on something THEY like..

Yes, freedom of speech bla bla bla

But a bit more tact would be nice sometimes and even though Hublot is not for me, I still admire them and have friends that swear by them. Here on the forum I find Hublot get trashed no matter what. Unfortunate

VaRobot · 13 April 2016, 08:32 PM

Interesting video, form over function.

For a tool oriented, function over form guy, I guess I'm too Neanderthal to appreciate heavy artistic perspective.

Fiery · 13 April 2016, 09:28 PM

I hugely respect Mr.Biver, but still not a fan of Hublots... If they made a 41 or 42mm, in-house chrono with a less showy dial, metal or ceramic bezel, and steel or magic gold case, then perhaps. No carbon dial, and no asymmetric subdials please :) The Classic Fusion Chrono is almost there, but I'd prefer a more subtle Big Bang variant, using the classic Big Bang case.

AK797 · 14 April 2016, 08:23 AM

Now they are using their own movements and not charging extortionate amounts for ETAs I don't really mind them, and I've always liked Biver, a real and passionate character in an otherwise grey world.

el1125 · 14 April 2016, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SearChart

Not a Hublot fan myself but I do admire Mr Biver, his accomplishments in the watch industry are incredible.

Agree 100%.

p_mcgee · 15 April 2016, 01:31 AM

I like some Hublot models but IMO the black on black ones require too much effort to actually tell what time it is.

capote · 15 April 2016, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Israguard

One thing I find funny on the forum. Whatever happened to "nice but not my taste" and people move on.

Instead some bash and bash hard... And not realizing that some like it and may have spent huge $ on something THEY like..

Yes, freedom of speech bla bla bla

But a bit more tact would be nice sometimes and even though Hublot is not for me, I still admire them and have friends that swear by them. Here on the forum I find Hublot get trashed no matter what. Unfortunate

Yes ripping on Hublot is common here, but I have never seen it in an incoming thread.

fmc000 · 15 April 2016, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capote

Yes ripping on Hublot is common here, but I have never seen it in an incoming thread.

The two things are probably correlated.

kaiserphoenix · 15 April 2016, 11:25 PM

I do get his point about the art. But I do find it somewhat worrying that he doesnt care about accuracy and all that. For me Watches are for sure a form of art you can wear but it is also, fundamentally a "tool" to tell the time too. I mean i kno wmost people arnt wearing one to tell the time, but it helps that its accurate. And its far more impressive when its accurate AND beautifuk.

GoingPlaces · 15 April 2016, 11:38 PM

Not for me. Pass.

Le Chef · 16 April 2016, 12:47 AM

Sounds like Hublot have discovered how to turn down the contrast and darken images that go through their photocopier...

GB-man · 16 April 2016, 01:32 AM

I think next time I visit my rolex AD I'll try one on lol I love to hate hublot and I want to be able to further justify it. Sort of like, you can't talk crap about politics unless you vote!

masterserg · 16 April 2016, 01:37 AM

I think it is a cool video. I like the guy a lot.

psv · 16 April 2016, 01:48 AM

I have a great deal of respect for his success and understanding about the industry and marketing, but how something can talk so haughtily for 5 min about producing a black-on-black watch is beyond me.

I have nothing nice to say about Hublot so I'll end it there.

12 April 2016, 03:25 AM	#1
RUK "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Ruk Location: .ie Watch: 5711,Sub,Daytona,P Posts: 1,232	Jean-Claude Biver can justify anything Just watched this video of Jean-Claude Biver try to justify the design of the black on black Hublot. He paints such a beautiful picture and sets the tone and makes up an amazing reality to sell a product. I've heard him trying to Justify the Hublot Big Bang and trying to say it is as original as a Nautilus and a Royal Oak... And now this .He could sell sell sand in the Sahara I'd say! Great respect for his old work with AP,Omega,but as good a story teller as he is, I am not sold at all on his newer design and marketing ideas. There comes a time when you can't push the envelope that far and expect to get away with it. Video here https://youtu.be/55ve5tFI_HU __________________ 'The best watch out there is the one you like the most'

13 April 2016, 02:28 PM	#3
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Agreed, he can hype up almost anything. Hublot does nothing for me __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

13 April 2016, 07:56 PM	#8
Matt C "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Maine Watch: Rolex 116660 Posts: 1,602	There are many blacked out pieces, just because this one is Hublot, it's no good?? These posts have to stop. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Rolex 116660 Ball EM2 Diver Casio G-Shock

13 April 2016, 09:28 PM	#11
Fiery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Sub-C 116610LN Posts: 2,649	I hugely respect Mr.Biver, but still not a fan of Hublots... If they made a 41 or 42mm, in-house chrono with a less showy dial, metal or ceramic bezel, and steel or magic gold case, then perhaps. No carbon dial, and no asymmetric subdials please :) The Classic Fusion Chrono is almost there, but I'd prefer a more subtle Big Bang variant, using the classic Big Bang case. __________________ "In an age of obsolescence and gimmickry, this simple classic virtue of a Rolex is indeed a rarity." (Rolex ad from 1974)

15 April 2016, 11:25 PM	#17
kaiserphoenix "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London/Tokyo Watch: FPJ CO BL Posts: 1,721	I do get his point about the art. But I do find it somewhat worrying that he doesnt care about accuracy and all that. For me Watches are for sure a form of art you can wear but it is also, fundamentally a "tool" to tell the time too. I mean i kno wmost people arnt wearing one to tell the time, but it helps that its accurate. And its far more impressive when its accurate AND beautifuk. __________________ F.P.Journe Chronometre Optimum Black Label, Patek 5396R-011, Patek 5968A-001 IG: tokyo_watch_guy

13 April 2016, 11:14 AM	#2
JP Chestnut Banned Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ann Arbor MI Watch: Rolex Ref 16600 Posts: 3,908	Huge blow. Nothing more to say about them.

13 April 2016, 02:57 PM	#4
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	Or maybe it's us who don't understand anything and Hublow is really high horology instead of just some marketing crap, who knows

13 April 2016, 06:27 PM	#6
Sumitaro "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Indonesia Watch: ing you Posts: 97	Nice try Old man but Hublot is still hyped JUNK Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 April 2016, 06:54 PM	#7
PattayaHammerTime "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: London Posts: 128	gotta love the haters.... i'm a Hublot fan, went to the 10 years Big Bang dinner last year in London.... don't see many other brands hosting things like that for their clients? Gave me an additional 2 years warranty on both my watches as well... No complaints here

13 April 2016, 08:10 PM	#9
Israguard "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 859	One thing I find funny on the forum. Whatever happened to "nice but not my taste" and people move on. Instead some bash and bash hard... And not realizing that some like it and may have spent huge $ on something THEY like.. Yes, freedom of speech bla bla bla But a bit more tact would be nice sometimes and even though Hublot is not for me, I still admire them and have friends that swear by them. Here on the forum I find Hublot get trashed no matter what. Unfortunate

13 April 2016, 08:32 PM	#10
VaRobot "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: John Location: I'm Done Watch: Mark IV Red Sub Posts: 854	Interesting video, form over function. For a tool oriented, function over form guy, I guess I'm too Neanderthal to appreciate heavy artistic perspective.

14 April 2016, 08:23 AM	#12
AK797 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Now they are using their own movements and not charging extortionate amounts for ETAs I don't really mind them, and I've always liked Biver, a real and passionate character in an otherwise grey world.

15 April 2016, 01:31 AM	#14
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	I like some Hublot models but IMO the black on black ones require too much effort to actually tell what time it is.

15 April 2016, 11:38 PM	#18
GoingPlaces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,356	Not for me. Pass.

16 April 2016, 12:47 AM	#19
Le Chef "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,005	Sounds like Hublot have discovered how to turn down the contrast and darken images that go through their photocopier...

16 April 2016, 01:32 AM	#20
GB-man 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,663	I think next time I visit my rolex AD I'll try one on lol I love to hate hublot and I want to be able to further justify it. Sort of like, you can't talk crap about politics unless you vote!

16 April 2016, 01:37 AM	#21
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	I think it is a cool video. I like the guy a lot. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

16 April 2016, 01:48 AM	#22
psv "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,077	I have a great deal of respect for his success and understanding about the industry and marketing, but how something can talk so haughtily for 5 min about producing a black-on-black watch is beyond me. I have nothing nice to say about Hublot so I'll end it there.

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