Crown direction on 5711 movement?? (When forwarding the time)

[sarey]

All... please can someone clarify to me the direction you turn the crown on the movement of a 5711. My 5712 is clockwise to move time forward but have seen YouTube video showing it in an ant-clockwise direction. Please can someone confirm. Thanks in advance...👍

[PJ S]

Oh come on!
There are only two directions the crown can operate – turn it one way and the hands move either backwards or forwards. If it’s not the direction you wanted, then simply turn the crown the other way.
The alternative solution is that you consult the owners manuals for each piece, instead of asking imbecilic questions!

[Tomas Eriksson]

Different movements. 5711 has the cal 315 while 5712 has the cal 240. http://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=PP_240 vs http://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=PP_315

[FeelingTheBlues]

Originally Posted by PJ S

Oh come on!
There are only two directions the crown can operate – turn it one way and the hands move either backwards or forwards. If it’s not the direction you wanted, then simply turn the crown the other way.
The alternative solution is that you consult the owners manuals for each piece, instead of asking imbecilic questions!

Did you skip breakfast this morning or did you just misunderstand the question and thought your safest option was to act arrogant about it?

To the OP, I own neither but yes, different movements (even in the same case) may have one more or less wheel or pinion for the time setting mechanism, thus changing the crown direction when moving the hands forward.

[de66]

Thought 5711 and 5726 movements were the same.
My 5726 adjusts the pointers in a clockwise direction when I turn the crown in an anticlockwise direction

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

Did you skip breakfast this morning or did you just misunderstand the question and thought your safest option was to act arrogant about it?

Yes, breakfast skipped – but that is completely irrelevant regards to understanding the question and my reply to it.
If the crown of a watch operated like an 8-way thumbstick on a games console controller, the question would be a valid one – but since it’s not, even a simpleton could figure out what to do.

For the avoidance of any doubt…I can’t abide laziness, and I don’t suffer fools – beyond that, if someone has a genuine need of help or assistance, I’ll be there to offer it without complaint or expectations of acknowledgement or gratitude (although it is courteous to do so).

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by Tomas Eriksson

Different movements. 5711 has the cal 315 while 5712 has the cal 240. http://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=PP_240 vs http://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=PP_315

Wrong – the 5711 is a 324 movement.
Why reference a wiki page when the information is right there on the manufacturer’s own product webpage?

[sarey]

Some of you need to chill out and re read my original question with regards to the crown and it's intended movement to change time. I clearly know how to change the time on my collection of watches and wasn't born yesterday!!!
I ask the question as Ive seen a video on YouTube of a 5711 winding time forward by adjusting the crown in an ant-clockwise direction. So I thought it may be a fake. I'll try again to get a more grown up reply....

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by de66

Thought 5711 and 5726 movements were the same.
My 5726 adjusts the pointers in a clockwise direction when I turn the crown in an anticlockwise direction

Same caliber base – the 324.
As the annual calendar is set by the various buttons on the case, the crown adjusts time only – unlike the 5711, which has a third position for setting the date.

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by sarey

Some of you need to chill out and re read my original question with regards to the crown and it's intended movement to change time. I clearly know how to change the time on my collection of watches and wasn't born yesterday!!!
I ask the question as Ive seen a video on YouTube of a 5711 winding time forward by adjusting the crown in an ant-clockwise direction. So I thought it may be a fake. I'll try again to get a more grown up reply....

Ah ha…now all becomes clear – would’ve been handier if you’d said so from the outset.
Your op (below) is written such that you were watching a 5712 video.
The video I’m presuming that you watched, showed a genuine 5711 – so anti-clockwise is correct, which is obvious, given the seconds hand is still moving.

Originally Posted by sarey

All... please can someone clarify to me the direction you turn the crown on the movement of a 5711. My 5712 is clockwise to move time forward but have seen YouTube video showing it in an ant-clockwise direction.

[sarey]

Many thanks for the replies..��

[RussW]

Originally Posted by Tomas Eriksson

Different movements. 5711 has the cal 315 while 5712 has the cal 240. http://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=PP_240 vs http://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=PP_315

Originally Posted by PJ S

Wrong – the 5711 is a 324 movement.
Why reference a wiki page when the information is right there on the manufacturer’s own product webpage?

You are both partially correct, but there's more to it. When the 5711 launched in 2006 it did indeed use the 315 movement. It now uses the 324.

Perhaps the two versions adjust the hands in different directions.

[Tomas Eriksson]

Originally Posted by RussW

You are both partially correct, but there's more to it. When the 5711 launched in 2006 it did indeed use the 315 movement. It now uses the 324.

Perhaps the two versions adjust the hands in different directions.

thank you for clearing that up

[hbk25]

Yeah I got freaked out a bit when I first got this 5167 (cal. 324). It's the opposite from rolex in the simplest of terms.

Random lume shot to keep the peace:

[lapince]

Originally Posted by pj s

oh come on!
There are only two directions the crown can operate – turn it one way and the hands move either backwards or forwards. If it’s not the direction you wanted, then simply turn the crown the other way.
The alternative solution is that you consult the owners manuals for each piece, instead of asking imbecilic questions!

lol

[Samui]

Originally Posted by PJ S

Oh come on!
There are only two directions the crown can operate – turn it one way and the hands move either backwards or forwards. If it’s not the direction you wanted, then simply turn the crown the other way.
The alternative solution is that you consult the owners manuals for each piece, instead of asking imbecilic questions!

[KarlS]

Have we established whether the question is imbecilic or the OP is a fool yet?

[PJ S]

^
To be absolutely fair, Karl, I did jump down the OP’s throat, a bit, due to his poorly phrased opening post.
If he’d bothered to take the time to clarify things, then he wouldn’t have given the impression he was sitting with a 5711 and afraid to turn the crown the opposite direction.

[kunlun]

Dang, Patek forum is the roughest place on TRF!

[FeelingTheBlues]

Originally Posted by PJ S

^
To be absolutely fair, Karl, I did jump down the OP’s throat, a bit, due to his poorly phrased opening post.
If he’d bothered to take the time to clarify things, then he wouldn’t have given the impression he was sitting with a 5711 and afraid to turn the crown the opposite direction.

I don't know, you seem to be the only one who did not understand the question and went full potato. If you'd be bothered to ask some clarification instead of assuming the OP does not know how the only knob on a three hand watch works you would not look like one yourself.

Originally Posted by kunlun

Dang, Patek forum is the roughest place on TRF!

Stevie Ray Vaughan would beg to differ but I digress.

[sarey]

It has been amusing and educational to say the least With regards to the comments about my original post and I honestly appreciate all the feedback I received to resolve the query I had. Maybe it was slightly confusing to some but not to others. We are all watch fans/collectors and all need help or ask questions now and again so let's also respect the site and its members going forward. Too much crap in the world to get wound up on a watch forum...

[01101001]

Wow!

[de66]

Here is a good one :

Why doesnt somebody now start a poll to see how many people did or did not understand the original post.... So the saga can continue. Its amusing

[sarey]

Ha ha... Ok .... Hands up who understood my question 1st time round (bearing in mind the "subject" on my post was a bit of a clue..! Lol

[01101001]

Originally Posted by sarey

Ha ha... Ok .... Hands up who understood my question 1st time round (bearing in mind the "subject" on my post was a bit of a clue..! Lol

I understood it.


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[soundserious]

Originally Posted by PJ S

Oh come on!
There are only two directions the crown can operate – turn it one way and the hands move either backwards or forwards. If it’s not the direction you wanted, then simply turn the crown the other way.
The alternative solution is that you consult the owners manuals for each piece, instead of asking imbecilic questions!

Bravo!

[subtona]

Originally Posted by RussW

You are both partially correct, but there's more to it. When the 5711 launched in 2006 it did indeed use the 315 movement. It now uses the 324.

Perhaps the two versions adjust the hands in different directions.

[Ar_Mi]

Wow things got harsh.. just tell the man its anti clock wise..