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climblaw25 · 1 August 2017, 11:12 PM

I own a 16570 explorer ii polar with 3186 movement. I've enjoyed this timepiece a lot but I find myself lusting after the SS yachtmaster ii reference 116681. Would I be crazy to flip my explorer ii for the yachtmaster ii? Obviously I would have to bring cash to the deal. I like the "bigger" look of the 116681. Other watches currently in my rotation are a Sub C Date and an IWC Portuguese Chrono 3714-45.

Any opinions would be appreciated!

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iliketime · 1 August 2017, 11:24 PM

there is a select bunch of us who love the 16570, i say no

climblaw25 · 1 August 2017, 11:51 PM

Here is a pic of the potential outgoing.

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uansari1 · 1 August 2017, 11:54 PM

Depends on you. Personally, if never sell my Explorer or Explorer II. If I needed to flip something, it'd be the Sub.

wach16 · 1 August 2017, 11:58 PM

Personally I would choose the yachtmasterII over the explorerII

mailman · 2 August 2017, 12:17 AM

I'd flip the SubC date.

sager · 2 August 2017, 12:18 AM

Yachtmaster over explorer in my opinion

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fskywalker · 2 August 2017, 12:23 AM

Well, if that will stop the itch go for it!

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dafuture · 2 August 2017, 01:14 AM

I personally like the look and versatility of the Exp II, but if you really like the YMII then I say go for it! I just don't know if it's really worth the difference in cash.

FTX I · 2 August 2017, 01:27 AM

Unfortunately I don't own one, but I see the 5 digit Exp II as one of those watches that are so unpretentious that some owners consider getting rid of it for something else, but I believe it will be missed for the same characteristic that lead to the sale. Being unpretentious is a virtue.

HogwldFLTR · 2 August 2017, 01:30 AM

I agree, flip the Sub and keep the Exp II.

rph08 · 2 August 2017, 01:34 AM

I traded my black 16570 several months ago. I wouldn't have traded if it had been a white one. IMHO, the polar 16570 is a really great piece, and I would trade it for a YM.

Shaky · 2 August 2017, 01:48 AM

Is that a false arm. It's at a very jaunty angle in that photo. Lol.

I am not really a fan on the Exp 2 but I do like the look of the Y/master.

Flip.

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wb55 · 2 August 2017, 02:42 AM

If you mostly wear suits I would flip it for something more versatile. That watch looks out of place with a suit.

sea-dweller · 2 August 2017, 02:43 AM

I would not!

AK797 · 2 August 2017, 02:45 AM

That's quite an unusual pair to be trading, but yes I would, that Exp doesn't do much for me, even in that great suit pic, which the 3714 IWC would look much better with I know.

climblaw25 · 2 August 2017, 05:13 AM

Thanks for all of your helpful comments and opinions!

Mulling it over . . .

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Mr Kram · 2 August 2017, 05:25 AM

i would flip it for a 6 digit explorer II

dr35mm · 2 August 2017, 07:19 AM

I'm not a big fan of two tones, I would for a DSSD or Blue is what you want is a "bigger" watch.

bcmind · 2 August 2017, 07:36 AM

Go for it.. lusting is a strong word

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watchwatcher · 2 August 2017, 07:43 AM

Big fan of the YM2 here. But...I wouldn't flip the EXP2, especially if you've enjoyed it. Add, don't flip.

Mr DateJust · 2 August 2017, 09:02 AM

Not a chance. Keep the explorer II. The YM II is a gigantic watch with a complication that is useless to most people. The Exp II on the other hand has the most useful set of features and is a sensible size. Also saw a few posts saying it doesn't look good with a suit. Total nonsense. I have worn my Exp II with a tux.

Old Expat Beast · 2 August 2017, 10:32 AM

The Polar 3186 is a keeper and a sleeper, and much nicer-looking and more practical than the YMII, IMO.

BNABOD · 2 August 2017, 11:54 AM

I am in the camp of keeping it or updating it with this one

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Justice12 · 2 August 2017, 11:57 AM

The polar 3186 is a real sleeper, keep it and save longer for new one

osamu · 3 August 2017, 09:59 AM

I really like both, the YMII is a great summer watch, especially love how it looks on a blue RubberB.

I just feel like the EXII is one of the best deals in the Rolex lineup, while the YMII is very expensive for what it is and the practically of having a regatta timer. Realistically I feel like you're going to be putting up a lot of money in the trade in, for not much gain.

If you love the YMII, sure why not buy it, but I would think you'd have to want it enough to buy it outright regardless of if you trade in the EXII or not.

kilyung · 3 August 2017, 10:03 AM

Love my YMII

Daryl · 3 August 2017, 10:17 AM

Keep the exp 2 and save for the ym

brmeyers · 3 August 2017, 10:21 AM

Two thumbs up for the Yachtmaster II in this scenario

16610v · 4 August 2017, 04:00 PM

If you like big watch and white dial, YMII is your choice. And you wont see it everywhere in the street.

1 August 2017, 11:12 PM	#1
climblaw25 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: location location Watch: too much Netflix Posts: 430	Advice on a trade - 16570 for 116680? I own a 16570 explorer ii polar with 3186 movement. I've enjoyed this timepiece a lot but I find myself lusting after the SS yachtmaster ii reference 116681. Would I be crazy to flip my explorer ii for the yachtmaster ii? Obviously I would have to bring cash to the deal. I like the "bigger" look of the 116681. Other watches currently in my rotation are a Sub C Date and an IWC Portuguese Chrono 3714-45. Any opinions would be appreciated! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 August 2017, 11:54 PM	#4
uansari1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Doha, Qatar Watch: Polar 16570 Posts: 535	Depends on you. Personally, if never sell my Explorer or Explorer II. If I needed to flip something, it'd be the Sub. __________________ Explorer II 16570 Polar (3186) GMT Master II 116710LN GMT Master II 126710BLRO (jubilee) Explorer 124270 Omega Seamaster GMT 50th Anniversary

1 August 2017, 11:58 PM	#5
wach16 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: NH Watch: 228239, PAM00684 Posts: 2,121	Personally I would choose the yachtmasterII over the explorerII __________________ Rolex 228239 PAM00684

2 August 2017, 12:17 AM	#6
mailman TRF Moderator & SubLV41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,504	I'd flip the SubC date. __________________ JJ

2 August 2017, 12:23 AM	#8
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 25,160	Well, if that will stop the itch go for it! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 310.30.42.50.01.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001 Zenith 02.480.405 2FA security enabled

1 August 2017, 11:24 PM	#2
iliketime "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Jack Location: NYC Watch: 16570, 16710 Posts: 1,535	there is a select bunch of us who love the 16570, i say no

1 August 2017, 11:51 PM	#3
climblaw25 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: location location Watch: too much Netflix Posts: 430	Here is a pic of the potential outgoing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 August 2017, 12:18 AM	#7
sager "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Sage Location: MENA Posts: 1,563	Yachtmaster over explorer in my opinion Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 August 2017, 01:14 AM	#9
dafuture "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: NYC Posts: 1,944	I personally like the look and versatility of the Exp II, but if you really like the YMII then I say go for it! I just don't know if it's really worth the difference in cash. __________________ Current Rolex Submariner 126610LN \|\| Cartier Tank Americaine

2 August 2017, 01:27 AM	#10
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Unfortunately I don't own one, but I see the 5 digit Exp II as one of those watches that are so unpretentious that some owners consider getting rid of it for something else, but I believe it will be missed for the same characteristic that lead to the sale. Being unpretentious is a virtue.

2 August 2017, 01:30 AM	#11
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,669	I agree, flip the Sub and keep the Exp II. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

2 August 2017, 01:34 AM	#12
rph08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Posts: 992	I traded my black 16570 several months ago. I wouldn't have traded if it had been a white one. IMHO, the polar 16570 is a really great piece, and I would trade it for a YM. __________________ Can you name the truck with four wheel drive, smells like a steak and seats thirty-five... Canyonero! Canyonero!

2 August 2017, 01:48 AM	#13
Shaky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: UK Posts: 1,125	Is that a false arm. It's at a very jaunty angle in that photo. Lol. I am not really a fan on the Exp 2 but I do like the look of the Y/master. Flip. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 August 2017, 02:42 AM	#14
wb55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: - Posts: 988	If you mostly wear suits I would flip it for something more versatile. That watch looks out of place with a suit.

2 August 2017, 02:43 AM	#15
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I would not! __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

2 August 2017, 02:45 AM	#16
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	That's quite an unusual pair to be trading, but yes I would, that Exp doesn't do much for me, even in that great suit pic, which the 3714 IWC would look much better with I know.

2 August 2017, 05:13 AM	#17
climblaw25 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: location location Watch: too much Netflix Posts: 430	Thanks for all of your helpful comments and opinions! Mulling it over . . . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 August 2017, 05:25 AM	#18
Mr Kram "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Mark Location: Los Angeles Posts: 876	i would flip it for a 6 digit explorer II

2 August 2017, 07:19 AM	#19
dr35mm "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Real Name: Peter Location: Caribbean Watch: BB58 Posts: 2,398	I'm not a big fan of two tones, I would for a DSSD or Blue is what you want is a "bigger" watch. __________________ Present: BB58 \| BB36 \| GMW-B5000D-1JF \| 6900-PT80 Past: 16610LN \| 16622 \| 116610LN \| 214270

2 August 2017, 07:36 AM	#20
bcmind "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: West Coast Watch: Rolex Posts: 186	Go for it.. lusting is a strong word Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

2 August 2017, 07:43 AM	#21
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,002	Big fan of the YM2 here. But...I wouldn't flip the EXP2, especially if you've enjoyed it. Add, don't flip.

2 August 2017, 09:02 AM	#22
Mr DateJust "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Glasgow, UK Watch: 16570 Posts: 909	Not a chance. Keep the explorer II. The YM II is a gigantic watch with a complication that is useless to most people. The Exp II on the other hand has the most useful set of features and is a sensible size. Also saw a few posts saying it doesn't look good with a suit. Total nonsense. I have worn my Exp II with a tux.

2 August 2017, 10:32 AM	#23
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,794	The Polar 3186 is a keeper and a sleeper, and much nicer-looking and more practical than the YMII, IMO.

2 August 2017, 11:54 AM	#24
BNABOD "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: USA Posts: 663	I am in the camp of keeping it or updating it with this one Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 August 2017, 11:57 AM	#25
Justice12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Delaware Posts: 96	The polar 3186 is a real sleeper, keep it and save longer for new one

3 August 2017, 09:59 AM	#26
osamu "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,322	I really like both, the YMII is a great summer watch, especially love how it looks on a blue RubberB. I just feel like the EXII is one of the best deals in the Rolex lineup, while the YMII is very expensive for what it is and the practically of having a regatta timer. Realistically I feel like you're going to be putting up a lot of money in the trade in, for not much gain. If you love the YMII, sure why not buy it, but I would think you'd have to want it enough to buy it outright regardless of if you trade in the EXII or not.

3 August 2017, 10:03 AM	#27
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Love my YMII

3 August 2017, 10:17 AM	#28
Daryl 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Posts: 3,420	Keep the exp 2 and save for the ym __________________ 2FA-Enabled Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

3 August 2017, 10:21 AM	#29
brmeyers "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Bryant Location: Florida Watch: ...Your Thoughts Posts: 2,171	Two thumbs up for the Yachtmaster II in this scenario

4 August 2017, 04:00 PM	#30
16610v "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: YL Watch: Submariner Posts: 701	If you like big watch and white dial, YMII is your choice. And you wont see it everywhere in the street. __________________ Instagram: litwing23

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