Spring Bar Tool Question

[Artifice]

Hello Gentlemen,

I just got my first Rolex and was thinking about changing the bracelet to a leather one. However, I don't have a spring bar remover tool yet and was wondering if this would be able to do the job? It is from Otto Frei's website. I have searched the forums here and could not find out if this exact one can fit with the watch that I have.

Its the new 2016 Submariner with the ceramic bezel.

Thank you!




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[bdex75]

I change my bracelets with a tool like that. The Rolex tool or the Bergeron 6825 caliper style are easier to me. Either can be found on line. The Rolex one is a little harder to come by.


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[JonnyBCisco]

No dude. Speaking from direct personal experience I can tell you that the Bergeon 7825 Extra Fine Forked Tweezers are the way to go. I'm sure there will be no shortage of members who will insist that the spring bar tool in your post will be "just fine" but I was never able to get the spring bars out (and put them back in) reliably out of a non-hole case until I used the Bergeon 7825. (I should add that if you read the bottom of Ottos website in the spring bar tool removal section he says incredibly, "In fact in 40 years in the business selling tools, parts and supplies I have never removed the spring bars on a Rolex.")

[Tools]

Nothing wrong with that tool.

The small forked end is for taking the bracelet off and the flat paddle end is for taking off a leather (or flexible) strap.

At the very worst you may need to fill the small fork end a bit narrower to fit the tiny Rolex slots, but it's unlikely with that model.

[mtgjr]

Nothing wrong with that tool....if you don't mind scratches on the underside of your lugs. If you want to avoid said scratches, get the aforementioned Bergeon 7825. It's essentially the same tool as the Rolex 3200. Trust me...7825 is the one.

[dcash0615]

I bought the Bergeon 6825 and the tips did not fit into the spring bar openings on all my Rolex watches. It was a very snug fit and did not make contact with the spring bar correctly. I returned it to Otto Frei and ordered the Bergeon 7825 fine forked tweezers and they fit perfectly. Now I just need to practice with it so I do not scratch the under side of the lugs.

[T. Ferguson]

A tweezers or pliers type tool is easier for most. Just search "tweezers" here and a bunch of threads will pop up. Here's one such thread you may find useful:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...light=tweezers

[toolr]

Bergeon 7825 is the way to go.

[Artifice]

Thank you for the reply guys! The 7825 looks very applealing to me but the price point is a bit too high. Are there any other brands that you recommend that are the tweezer type but works out of the box and no filing needed?


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[Rocket_Man]

I have the 7825 and while it is pricey compared to the spring bar tool you posted above, it is the best way to avoid scratching up the back sides of your lugs. Still even when I use it I mask off the lugs with tape just in case. With the 7825, you can compress both sides of the spring bar and use the tool to hold the bracelet down while you move the watch head away from the end link. Reverse that process to reattach.... move the head to the bracelet, not the other way around.

If you do go with leather, this tool won't help you since the leather is going to run from lug to lug. In that case you will need the flat end to move the leather 'aside.' But using this tool it is important to mask off the lugs to reduce the risk of scratches.

[f1dude]

Originally Posted by Rocket_Man

I have the 7825 and while it is pricey compared to the spring bar tool you posted above, it is the best way to avoid scratching up the back sides of your lugs. Still even when I use it I mask off the lugs with tape just in case. With the 7825, you can compress both sides of the spring bar and use the tool to hold the bracelet down while you move the watch head away from the end link. Reverse that process to reattach.... move the head to the bracelet, not the other way around.

If you do go with leather, this tool won't help you since the leather is going to run from lug to lug. In that case you will need the flat end to move the leather 'aside.' But using this tool it is important to mask off the lugs to reduce the risk of scratches.

Rocket_Man - I have a a sub-c and want to swap out the bracelet for a leather strap. Which spring bars would I need for the a leather band?

http://www.ofrei.com/page_155.html

I'm thinking FB-7898 spring bars (for non-drilled lugs)- is that right? And for removal of the leather strap, would I use this tool (FB-504/BERG-6111):

http://www.ofrei.com/page252.html

I currently have a pair of tweezers that are great to remove the stock spring bars (bracelet). Speaking of which, are the FB-7896 the non-OEM replacement of the stock spring bars for the bracelet? Thanks.

[stylinleems]

Originally Posted by toolr

Bergeon 7825 is the way to go.

x 2! Picked up my 7825 couple weeks ago and it made taking off the bracelets easy peasy!

[Juantxo]

Why would you switch a perfect bracelet, on a diver's watch, for a cheap strap...???

[Laszlo]

These are the two I use, must haves.

[DGB]

Originally Posted by Juantxo

Why would you switch a perfect bracelet, on a diver's watch, for a cheap strap...???

I went on summer holiday to the beach and scratched my Sub's bracelet , the next time I will change my bracelet with a rubber one, I wouldn't mind if this one gets scratched

[peterpl]

These are a waste of money my man. Just buy a Burgeon 6825 or 7825 and be done with it. It costs a little but you have a proper tool for life.

[Corsair66]

Another data point in favor of the Bergeon 7825. Yes, other tools can be made to work, but I'm a great believer in always using the right tool for a given job.