Best Vintage Rolex Investment you should buy now.

[oatpalarit]

Just like the title, in your opinion what are some of the high potential vintage rolex investment?

[Pocosso]

16520, 16610LV, 16760, and many other.


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[roh123]

As already mentioned in the other thread. Perfect gilt sport watches in superb condition. They can only move up and they will move up a lot. Other than that I think most things hot today will continue to be hot.

Buy watches in demand in top, top, top condition and your investment will be good.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by roh123

As already mentioned in the other thread. Perfect gilt sport watches in superb condition. They can only move up and they will move up a lot. Other than that I think most things hot today will continue to be hot.

Buy watches in demand in top, top, top condition and your investment will be good.

Look what happened to the Rolex bubble backs. People who bought these for top dollar not so long ago lost their investment.

Antiques prices in general are on a all time low. Frisian clocks i.e. of which I bought and sold a lot would go for 3-4000 Euro. In the current market I can buy the same for 250 Euro.

At this time vintage is hot and perhaps a bit hyped, but you will never know what the future will bring.
Buy what you like to wear and forget about long term investment

[roh123]

Originally Posted by joli160

Look what happened to the Rolex bubble backs. People who bought these for top dollar not so long ago lost their investment.

Antiques prices in general are on a all time low. Frisian clocks i.e. of which I bought and sold a lot would go for 3-4000 Euro. In the current market I can buy the same for 250 Euro.

At this time vintage is hot and perhaps a bit hyped, but you will never know what the future will bring.
Buy what you like to wear and forget about long term investment

Sure. The big difference is that the watches that is hot today are wearable. Bubblebacks never really were even when they were hot. It was more of a collectible item that a much smaller collector community liked to collect. Every hot model today carry a timeless classic design which will never be outdated as long as modern watches look like they do. Most hot vintage models could basically be released by Rolex tomorrow and still work.

I do not have a crystal ball so I am just speculating. Of course trends will come and go but I do not see a major turn coming as long as people are into mechanical watches.

[DLRIDES]

IMO - 80’s transitionals and 90’s tritium lumed sports

[DerbyCopa]

1675, 1680 red, 1680, 16610lv, 16520, 116520, 1016, ,..

[springer]

Originally Posted by joli160

Look what happened to the Rolex bubble backs. People who bought these for top dollar not so long ago lost their investment.

Antiques prices in general are on a all time low. Frisian clocks i.e. of which I bought and sold a lot would go for 3-4000 Euro. In the current market I can buy the same for 250 Euro.

At this time vintage is hot and perhaps a bit hyped, but you will never know what the future will bring.
Buy what you like to wear and forget about long term investment

"Not so long ago"...well, thirty years ago is a long time for many here. There are many forum members here that haven't seen their 30th birthday yet.

There were many factors that played into the bubbleback decline.

As I always say, please, stop with the doom and gloom- you're scaring the children.

[springer]

Originally Posted by oatpalarit

Just like the title, in your opinion what are some of the high potential vintage rolex investment?

"What are some of the high potential vintage Rolex investment?" Personally, I believe the same ones that are now coveted by collectors. I don't see any "dark horse" vintage models making any headway in the future. For the classics, I like the GMT 16700, GMT II 16710 and the Submariner 16610LV anniversary sets. Buy well and buy 'em all.

[henrylee]

^ springer knows well. My vote as well is the 16710 and 16610LV.

[JohnnyNoDate]

I'm more of a sub-guy:

early gilt dials, 5512, and 5513 are going... going... (soon to be gone)...

red 1680's seem to be holding steady and creeping up but have an already high buy-in price.

best values are in late 70's and early 80's 5513.


In regards to GMT's:

I feel like all pre-luminova models are great investments. Buy based on condition: dial, bezel, case - in that order.

[DLRIDES]

Originally Posted by roh123

Sure. The big difference is that the watches that is hot today are wearable.

Bingo ! Anything smaller than 38mm will be a waste of time in the next few years.

Vintage watch market as a whole, has approximately 30 -50 year life span left. A different technology will replace the current market. Remember those things called pocket watches ?

[77T]

Originally Posted by springer

"What are some of the high potential vintage Rolex investment?" Personally, I believe the same ones that are now coveted by collectors. I don't see any "dark horse" vintage models making any headway in the future. For the classics, I like the GMT 16700, GMT II 16710 and the Submariner 16610LV anniversary sets. Buy well and buy 'em all.

I agree with one twist. It is generally accepted that the classics should outpace others models - but as in any investment strategy - it’s worth putting 10-20% of your value into models that nobody ever loved.

This would represent the higher risks like old Gen 1 Milgauss, or Gen 1 Yachtmaster. Sure, they may never take off, but few dollars at risk for the chance to fly high if any ne’er do wells hook onto the MG or YM vibe via IG.

That’s what happened to early Daytona’s. Just my


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[deltabrent]

New guy here but I have a general opinion on future investments. I deal in antiques regularly and see stuff drop in value based on a generation. IF everyone holding onto a certain model is a certain age the value is going to drop as that demographic unloads their watches all at the same time.

The same can obviously be said about a bunch of people reaching an age where they have the disposable income to buy luxury items they have always wanted.

I'm new to the watch game BUT in my opinion I'd wager things like really gaudy "gangster" models being the future spike. Young people in their 20s who even know about Rolex watches know about them from Rappers etc. They don't associate them with James Bond, Paul Newman etc. So when these people hit 40 and have money to spend, they are going to buy the model Drake wears! (If he wears a Rolex?)

[77T]

Originally Posted by deltabrent

IF everyone holding onto a certain model is a certain age the value is going to drop as that demographic unloads their watches all at the same time.

That theory works to an extent. We have collectors from 18 to 80+ in watches.



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[ChristopheH]

I think it's time to buy DJ 36 mm ... 1601, 1603, 16014, and 16030.
Prices are already starting to rise.

[MonBK]

I'll let you have the Paul Newman Daytona for only $20,000,000.

The best investment you can make.

[mineral]

Not so vintage yet, my bet will be five digits like 16710, 16570, 14060


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[77T]

The 4 digit models 1800 DD and 1600 DJ models seem to have peaked with little growth.

Now the 4 digit Subs continue on their power curve. So that’s another place to seek barn finds (or shipwreck finds).


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[adam78]

Originally Posted by springer

...There were many factors that played into the bubbleback decline.

Springer, could you elaborate?

These are still very popular among certain of our Asian fellow-collectors -- I think that might have something to do with differences in average wrist sizes between different ethnicities/races, but I have a 6.75" wrist and don't find mine too small to enjoy wearing (the general chunkiness of the case makes these wearable I think, if you're not Godzilla). And the rarest in the best condition still command high prices I think (e.g. those in Jason Singer's collection).

[springer]

Originally Posted by adam78

Springer, could you elaborate?

These are still very popular among certain of our Asian fellow-collectors -- I think that might have something to do with differences in average wrist sizes between different ethnicities/races, but I have a 6.75" wrist and don't find mine too small to enjoy wearing (the general chunkiness of the case makes these wearable I think, if you're not Godzilla). And the rarest in the best condition still command high prices I think (e.g. those in Jason Singer's collection).

All true. Nice examples today are far and few in between but a nice watch still has a place in the collector market.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by deltabrent

New guy here but I have a general opinion on future investments. I deal in antiques regularly and see stuff drop in value based on a generation. IF everyone holding onto a certain model is a certain age the value is going to drop as that demographic unloads their watches all at the same time.

The same can obviously be said about a bunch of people reaching an age where they have the disposable income to buy luxury items they have always wanted.

I'm new to the watch game BUT in my opinion I'd wager things like really gaudy "gangster" models being the future spike. Young people in their 20s who even know about Rolex watches know about them from Rappers etc. They don't associate them with James Bond, Paul Newman etc. So when these people hit 40 and have money to spend, they are going to buy the model Drake wears! (If he wears a Rolex?)

Not that anyone in here cares but he was wearing richard mille 11-02 when I last saw him live.

[henrylee]

^ Correct, current rappers love iced out (Diamond covered) Pateks, APs, and RMs.

[roh123]

Originally Posted by henrylee

^ Correct, current rappers love iced out (Diamond covered) Pateks, APs, and RMs.

And less gangsta pop stars seem to like vintage Daytonas etc.

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by DLRIDES

Bingo ! Anything smaller than 38mm will be a waste of time in the next few years.

Vintage watch market as a whole, has approximately 30 -50 year life span left. A different technology will replace the current market. Remember those things called pocket watches ?

Like stamps...

[clock]

Originally Posted by mineral

Not so vintage yet, my bet will be five digits like 16710, 16570, 14060


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IMHO, the GMT and Sub will continue to be sought after (especially those in excellent condition), but not so with an Explorer ll.
A pre-owned 16570 ten years ago were going for $3.5k. Today approximately 4K. Other than the 1665, Explorer ll’s including current models are not popular.

[henrylee]

My bet is as the 5 digit subs and gmt go up in value, it will subsequently drive up prices on 16570. But the expII will always be less since it's less sought after.

[clock]

Tudor Snowflakes are already going for crazy money.
Perhaps the Tudor pre-Tiger chronographs including the Big Blocks are a good bet.
I wonder if a Datejust will really appreciate in value within the next 5-7 years.

[henrylee]

The big block (pre-tiger) chronos are gone too they used to be 2-3k and now they are $6k. The tiger and post-tiger versions are still reasonable.

[sillo]

Originally Posted by DLRIDES

IMO - 80’s transitionals and 90’s tritium lumed sports

I tend to agree with this.

I think the 5-digit models still have plenty of growth and are for the most part far cheaper than their 4-digit counterparts. Some still don't want to call them vintage but the slim lugs, aluminum bezel inserts, tritium lume and lug holes aren't coming back.

Matte 16800s and 16660s, 16700, 16760, 16610lv, 16520 (though those have seemed to take off already), 3186 16570s and I'm definitely forgetting a few others

Lots of 80s and 90s Tudors are still available for great prices too. The price of Daytonas is only going up and I think that's going drag up any Tudor Chrono before and including the pre-tiger 792xx. Tiger and post tiger are still great value, but lack the Rolex signed crown and caseback and I imagine that will always keep them trading at lower prices.