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Old 26 April 2018, 07:02 AM   #1
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Red Sub or New Daytona

Hi, need your advice...

I have received an offer for my Red Sub Mark V (1680) full set, in exchange for a new Daytona Black Dial 116500.

What are your thoughts?
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Old 26 April 2018, 08:11 AM   #2
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Keep the red Sub and buy the Daytona
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Old 26 April 2018, 08:23 AM   #3
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Makes no sense. But then again.. The second hand price for the new Daytona makes no sense either.

How much would you want for your full set if you just sold it? How much would you be willing to pay for the new Daytona if you had the cash? Somewhere around there you will find the answer to your question.
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Old 26 April 2018, 08:30 AM   #4
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Red sub full set worth way more in my opinion
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Old 26 April 2018, 08:53 AM   #5
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No way!
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Old 26 April 2018, 09:40 AM   #6
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Well, they'll keep making this Daytona for the foreseeable future, while they're never bringing back the 70's again.
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Old 26 April 2018, 11:12 AM   #7
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Keep the red Sub and buy the Daytona
No offense, but I HATE when people reply with things like this. No doubt, if funds weren't issue, this would be the case. However, the OP asked the question at hand probably because 19k is a large sum of money for most of us.

Very similar to when people ask which PM to buy between two very expensive pieces, and the reply by someone is "both!"
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Old 26 April 2018, 11:18 AM   #8
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i used to own the red sub, and am in the market for the exact same daytona you're being offered, and i prefer the daytona, BUT you would be foolish to do that trade! keep the red 1680. if you still want the daytona, sell the 1680 for more money and buy the daytona, hopefully closer to msrp vs this bullshit grey market markup.
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Old 26 April 2018, 11:36 AM   #9
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Please do not accept this trade. Brand new Daytona’s will be available at some point if you’re patient. You will never be able to get YOUR sub back.
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Old 26 April 2018, 03:57 PM   #10
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Red full sets going for 19-21k gbp

New Daytona 15-16k gbp.

The deal is wrong
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Old 26 April 2018, 05:49 PM   #11
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Red full sets going for 19-21k gbp

New Daytona 15-16k gbp.

The deal is wrong
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Old 26 April 2018, 06:00 PM   #12
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I understand your dilemma. I like both watches. For me the 116500 is a practical every day proposition whereas the 1680 is something I would only wear when I know it is not going to get knocked around. I have the Daytona and have a 1680 incoming (with service dial). I know the 1680 is going to get way less wrist time and I find vintage pieces a liability to own if used a lot. I know people are going to disagree with this but that's my opinion. Anyway I would find it very difficult to part with your Sub. I hope whatever you decide makes you happy.
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Old 26 April 2018, 09:45 PM   #13
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I don't think vintage watches are so fragile as you make it out to be. As long as you are mindful and wear it sensibly ie. no swimming and getting it dry after washing hands, vintage watch can be worn daily.

Btw, I would choose to keep the red sub. Its so gorgeous that modern watches can never match!
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Old 26 April 2018, 11:11 PM   #14
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they don't make the 1680 anymore; the daytonaC will be in production for a long time and eventually will get back to the right price. Don't be foolish.
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Old 27 April 2018, 12:47 AM   #15
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Thank you all for your comments.

My preoccupation is that my Red has been serviced and some pieces have been changed. So i do not know how does this affects the price of the watch.
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Old 27 April 2018, 02:21 AM   #16
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I don’t believe that’s a service dial. The experts can chime in.

Only thing I trade that thing for is a 1655.
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Old 27 April 2018, 02:33 AM   #17
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I'd forget about the value of the watches (for a moment), and simply decide which one you like better. That should be the key. Nothing else.

Then, if it's the Daytona, try to haggle for a better deal.
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Old 27 April 2018, 02:43 AM   #18
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Old 27 April 2018, 02:44 AM   #19
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I'd forget about the value of the watches (for a moment), and simply decide which one you like better. That should be the key. Nothing else.

Then, if it's the Daytona, try to haggle for a better deal.
i agree, forget about the value. For what It's worth, I wear my 1680 Red daily, and would have a hard time parting with it. If you like the Daytona, just buy it!
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Old 27 April 2018, 05:04 AM   #20
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Me personally have no attachments to red subs.....so personally I'd pick the Daytona. But IMO if you like the red sub.....I wouldn't trade that full set for a modern Daytona that's still in production.....seems like a recipe for regret.
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Old 27 April 2018, 05:28 AM   #21
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i used to own the red sub, and am in the market for the exact same daytona you're being offered, and i prefer the daytona, but you would be foolish to do that trade! Keep the red 1680. If you still want the daytona, sell the 1680 for more money and buy the daytona, hopefully closer to msrp vs this bullshit grey market markup.
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Old 27 April 2018, 05:33 AM   #22
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Red full sets going for 19-21k gbp

New Daytona 15-16k gbp.

The deal is wrong
I suspect the party making this offer knows it too
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Old 2 May 2018, 12:45 AM   #23
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In 5 to 10 years from now, you'll be glad you kept the Red (or kicking yourself for trading it).
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No offense, but I HATE when people reply with things like this. No doubt, if funds weren't issue, this would be the case. However, the OP asked the question at hand probably because 19k is a large sum of money for most of us.



Very similar to when people ask which PM to buy between two very expensive pieces, and the reply by someone is "both!"

Big plus one/+1 on this. It's obvious we are quite the subset of WIS..but god knows I don't have a ton of extra cash to throw at this silly watch habit.
This market is crazy. I am not a buyer in this market. I can't believe in the last 18mos the prices have literally doubled for several watches I purchased.


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Old 2 May 2018, 12:53 AM   #25
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Do not trade the red!! I repeat! DO NOT TRADE THE RED!
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You would get more by selling your red for cash and then buy a Daytona.
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Old 2 May 2018, 09:02 AM   #27
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I'd keep the Red Sub and purchase the Daytona if i really want it.
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Old 2 May 2018, 12:07 PM   #28
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Ever since I embarked on vintages, the moderns don't appeal to me in the same way...just my 2 cents, but comparing the 2 is like comparing an apple to an orange... not the same. if funds are tight and having both is not an option, then ask yourself whether you want something endearing and vintage, or a modern piece which is still in production.

but for a straight trade, I think that's fairly inbalanced, imo
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I'd forget about the value of the watches (for a moment), and simply decide which one you like better. That should be the key. Nothing else.

Then, if it's the Daytona, try to haggle for a better deal.
Forget about the value? Sorry but I think it should be what you look at first, then what you like more. You don't want to buy something like this with only your heart.
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Old 3 May 2018, 07:36 AM   #30
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Modern watches have many advantages if it’s to be your daily wear and one and only watch. The current Daytona, in it’s many configurations is, I think, the best looking and best proportioned watch in the Rolex range.
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