Not very many 15300’s for sale

[lablulaybel]

Was curious as to why there are a good amount of 15202’s,15400’s,15500’s On the secondary market in the United States but there is very limited supply of 13300s right now?

[kneedeep]

Check Chrono24? It's a great 3 hand watch in a perfect size for many.

[cascavel]

The 15300 was the ideal Royal Oak which is why A/P decided to cancel it in favor of the oversized 15400 and now 15500. True aficionados are reluctant to sell their 15300s realizing that if they want to re-buy a 39mm R/O they will be stuck buying the 15202 with its antiquated movement and commensurately high price.
In time, assuming the 15300 isn't re-introduced into the R/O line, its price will exceed that of the 15202, taking into consideration factors of condition, of course.

[bluebeamer]

yup 15300 is the ideal size at 39mm

i feel as if the 15400 and 15500 are out of proportion and a lot of the dial space feels 'empty' when compared to 15300 and 15202.

i'd rather get an ROC at 41mm than the 15400/500

[karasus]

15300 - best case proportions of all Genta designs(39mm) with good WR (screw down crown) and excellent shock resistant 60h (leave it for the weekend) power reserve. 9mm thin so quite wearable.

15202 - best case proportions but old movement design with meh shock resistance. Movement is thin not much you can do about have less steel to avoid bending the main plate during a fall. 8mm so very elegant.

15400 - 41mm but still quite thin at 9.8mm, decent case proportions for all wrists above 16.5cm not so great below. Same movement as 15300.

15500 - best movement and dial but horrible case pproportions for a sporty dress watch. Wears like an Offshore, but if you want a watch that feels like an offshore why not get an offshore... 10.4mm thick, that's as thick as a submariner a dive watch without the water resistance.

[karasus]

15300 - best case proportions of all Genta designs(39mm) with good WR (screw down crown) and excellent shock resistant 60h (leave it for the weekend) power reserve. 9mm thin so quite wearable.

15202 - best case proportions but old movement design with meh shock resistance. Movement is thin not much you can do about have less steel to avoid bending the main plate during a fall. 8mm so very elegant.

15400 - 41mm but still quite thin at 9.8mm, decent case proportions for all wrists above 16.5cm not so great below. Same movement as 15300.

15500 - best movement and dial but horrible case pproportions for a sporty dress watch. Wears like an Offshore, but if you want a watch that feels like an offshore why not get an offshore... 10.4mm thick, that's as thick as a submariner a dive watch without the water resistance.

[AK797]

Was never convinced by the 15300 enough to buy it, it is bezel heavy and thus looked a bit chunky so not an elegant sports watch, the 15202 40th anniversary model is more that watch, didn't like the previous 202 iteration either, so I was always looking at ROOs instead. Dials are also a bit flat on all these 39mm models, as per the usual nods to Genta, much more vibrant on the newer models.

Not many around as they were discontinued a few years ago and then when the 40th 15202 came out these took up all the Oxygen so the 300 fell away, prices were as low as £6K a couple of years ago, reflecting this, before all the new resurgent hype.

[Tomas Eriksson]

Originally Posted by AK797

Was never convinced by the 15300 enough to buy it, it is bezel heavy and thus looked a bit chunky so not an elegant sports watch, the 15202 40th anniversary model is more that watch, didn't like the previous 202 iteration either, so I was always looking at ROOs instead. Dials are also a bit flat on all these 39mm models, as per the usual nods to Genta, much more vibrant on the newer models.

Not many around as they were discontinued a few years ago and then when the 40th 15202 came out these took up all the Oxygen so the 300 fell away, prices were as low as £6K a couple of years ago, reflecting this, before all the new resurgent hype.

Words of wisdom

[mr_gray]

Originally Posted by AK797

Was never convinced by the 15300 enough to buy it, it is bezel heavy and thus looked a bit chunky so not an elegant sports watch, the 15202 40th anniversary model is more that watch, didn't like the previous 202 iteration either, so I was always looking at ROOs instead. Dials are also a bit flat on all these 39mm models, as per the usual nods to Genta, much more vibrant on the newer models.

Not many around as they were discontinued a few years ago and then when the 40th 15202 came out these took up all the Oxygen so the 300 fell away, prices were as low as £6K a couple of years ago, reflecting this, before all the new resurgent hype.

yes about the dials being a bit flat. also the white tended to take on a colour called "not white".

[SMD]

Well, its been discontinued now for what 7+ years? That could be one reason.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by cascavel

The 15300 was the ideal Royal Oak which is why A/P decided to cancel it in favor of the oversized 15400 and now 15500. True aficionados are reluctant to sell their 15300s realizing that if they want to re-buy a 39mm R/O they will be stuck buying the 15202 with its antiquated movement and commensurately high price.
In time, assuming the 15300 isn't re-introduced into the R/O line, its price will exceed that of the 15202, taking into consideration factors of condition, of course.

Why I have kept mine and I nearly sold it.

[bluebeamer]

Originally Posted by V25V

Why I have kept mine and I nearly sold it.

the perfect AP

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by karasus

15300 - best case proportions of all Genta designs(39mm) with good WR (screw down crown) and excellent shock resistant 60h (leave it for the weekend) power reserve. 9mm thin so quite wearable.

15202 - best case proportions but old movement design with meh shock resistance. Movement is thin not much you can do about have less steel to avoid bending the main plate during a fall. 8mm so very elegant.

15400 - 41mm but still quite thin at 9.8mm, decent case proportions for all wrists above 16.5cm not so great below. Same movement as 15300.

15500 - best movement and dial but horrible case pproportions for a sporty dress watch. Wears like an Offshore, but if you want a watch that feels like an offshore why not get an offshore... 10.4mm thick, that's as thick as a submariner a dive watch without the water resistance.

yeah, well, that's just like ... your opinion man ....

[V25V]

Originally Posted by masterserg

yeah, well, that's just like ... your opinion man ....

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[masterserg]

Originally Posted by V25V

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[V25V]

Originally Posted by masterserg

Love that movie.

[Gaphle]

I think because AP had 15300 produced from 2005(the release of cal 3120) late f series to merely early h series. When 15400 was introduced from 2012, mid h series until 2019 current k series. f series was app from 2001-2005,g was 2006-2010, h was 2011-

And back then, it was all about ROO. So even though 15400 had same production years, 15400 maybe 4 times more produced than 300s. I think 300 will be rarer than 15202 if they keep up their production.

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by V25V

Love that movie.

My all time favorite. That's a killer picture of your 15300 by the way. Love it!

[RoyalOac]

I presume because it is discontinued and highly sought after at the same time. :D

[V25V]

Originally Posted by masterserg

My all time favorite. That's a killer picture of your 15300 by the way. Love it!

Thanks! I nearly sold it, still contemplate selling it since I rarely wear it. But I am not there yet and I suspect its value will keep climbing. Nashville Watch just posted one at 26,500 and I bet he will get it.

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by V25V

Thanks! I nearly sold it, still contemplate selling it since I rarely wear it. But I am not there yet and I suspect its value will keep climbing. Nashville Watch just posted one at 26,500 and I bet he will get it.

I personally prefer my blue 15400 (out of all these) but I would not sell a blue 15300.

[lablulaybel]

Thanks for the feedback. Totally realize the discontinued part as well and increased demand for the watches. Just bit the bullet about a 2 weeks ago and picked one up for a pretty penny, but well worth the price. I was a big PP5711,12,.... but got priced out once they took a giant leap in the last 2 years.

My thoughts on the watch thus far is that it is absolutely the perfect size. My friend has the 15400 and it was way too big for my taste, flashy, and not my style in terms of "Low Key Heavy" watches (obviously they have a slight bling factor). I can have a meeting without my customers eyes focused on the larger bezel of the watch. If you have a sub 7" wrist (I have a 6 1/2 wrist)" it is the perfect fit.

I got the blue dial which is more blue/grey depending on the light. I was just curious because it seems people are not really selling the 15300's with the blue dial, only white and most of the APRO's are the 15202's and 15400 and on models. I needed the seconds hand to let me know it was alive as well as the screw down crown. Looks like it's a keeper!

[DGB]

Originally Posted by karasus

15300 - best case proportions of all Genta designs(39mm) with good WR (screw down crown) and excellent shock resistant 60h (leave it for the weekend) power reserve. 9mm thin so quite wearable.



15202 - best case proportions but old movement design with meh shock resistance. Movement is thin not much you can do about have less steel to avoid bending the main plate during a fall. 8mm so very elegant.



15400 - 41mm but still quite thin at 9.8mm, decent case proportions for all wrists above 16.5cm not so great below. Same movement as 15300.



15500 - best movement and dial but horrible case pproportions for a sporty dress watch. Wears like an Offshore, but if you want a watch that feels like an offshore why not get an offshore... 10.4mm thick, that's as thick as a submariner a dive watch without the water resistance.

Well said


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[coaxial]

hqmilton just put one up on their website; Black Dial, B&P.. I am not affiliated with them; Posting as PSA for anyone looking for a 15300 on the grey market.

[gsg]

Originally Posted by karasus

15300 - best case proportions of all Genta designs(39mm) with good WR (screw down crown) and excellent shock resistant 60h (leave it for the weekend) power reserve. 9mm thin so quite wearable.

15202 - best case proportions but old movement design with meh shock resistance. Movement is thin not much you can do about have less steel to avoid bending the main plate during a fall. 8mm so very elegant.

15400 - 41mm but still quite thin at 9.8mm, decent case proportions for all wrists above 16.5cm not so great below. Same movement as 15300.

15500 - best movement and dial but horrible case pproportions for a sporty dress watch. Wears like an Offshore, but if you want a watch that feels like an offshore why not get an offshore... 10.4mm thick, that's as thick as a submariner a dive watch without the water resistance.

Disagree. I understand looks, proportions, etc. are subjective so there is no right or wrong answer here, but to me the 15300 even at 39mm is another bloated/beefier version of the jumbo which messes with the iconic proportions. The 15300 case is taller and the bracelet is also thicker making it less sophisticated than the 15202.

Also the 2121 movement (JLC's 921 mvnt.) in the 15202 might be older, but is by faaaar the most interesting and has the most pedigree from the lot. Unless any recent developments I might not be aware of, to date, the 2121 is the thinnest automatic full-rotor movement ever created and has hold that tittle for almost 50 years. Need to say more?

[RoyalOac]

I love the 15300 because it is a modern, masculine, beefier interpretation of the RO Jumbo. It feels a bit more substantial compared to the elegant 15202. I also like the convenience and technical aspects of a seconds hand, screw down crown, quick date change. I disliked the 15400 ever since it was released; the thin bezel is disproportionate in my eyes.

[leisen]

Originally Posted by RoyalOac

I love the 15300 because it is a modern, masculine, beefier interpretation of the RO Jumbo. It feels a bit more substantial compared to the elegant 15202. I also like the convenience and technical aspects of a seconds hand, screw down crown, quick date change. I disliked the 15400 ever since it was released; the thin bezel is disproportionate in my eyes.

I agree. 15300 = best RO iteration. This may be one of the reasons why there are so few for sale.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by SMD

Well, its been discontinued now for what 7+ years? That could be one reason.

Yes that is the sole reason.

[MavaTalluru]

Originally Posted by karasus

15300 - best case proportions of all Genta designs(39mm) with good WR (screw down crown) and excellent shock resistant 60h (leave it for the weekend) power reserve. 9mm thin so quite wearable.



15202 - best case proportions but old movement design with meh shock resistance. Movement is thin not much you can do about have less steel to avoid bending the main plate during a fall. 8mm so very elegant.



15400 - 41mm but still quite thin at 9.8mm, decent case proportions for all wrists above 16.5cm not so great below. Same movement as 15300.



15500 - best movement and dial but horrible case pproportions for a sporty dress watch. Wears like an Offshore, but if you want a watch that feels like an offshore why not get an offshore... 10.4mm thick, that's as thick as a submariner a dive watch without the water resistance.

The submariner is 13mm and the 15500 is 10.4mm - how is it even the same ? Even the offshore is like 14.1mm.

If you consider the 15400 to be quite thin at 9.8mm - how can the 15500 be too thick at 10.4 ?

I am not defending the 15500 but I did not understand your logic.


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[vlps]

The 15300 really is the perfect AP. For anyone with a 6.5 inch wrist that finds the 15202 to be an awkward fit, give the 15300 a try. I use to own a brand new 15202st 40th anniversary that I could just never get a comfortable fit on, for that reason as beautiful and iconic as it was I had to get rid of it. The 15300 wears like butter on the wrist because the flair happens lower on the bracelet than the 15202 does. Seconds hand and screw down crown make the 15300 a better daily wear too. I think the fact that the 15300 is discontinued will continue to push prices up on it.