Official vacheron overseas thread!!

[swish77]

Originally Posted by Gebbeth

I would love to see the Overseas get hacking. For a sports watch, I think it just makes sense.

But if a new movement with hacking means paying a 40% premium from retail, or a 3 year to "who knows when" waiting list, than no thanks. I'll see how far existing Overseas prices go and then pull the trigger.

We all have our likes/dislikes, but personally I find the hacking feature to be the most meaningless and over-hyped feature on a mechanical watch.

It actually makes no sense. Why? Because even the very, very best mechanical watches in the world can lose a second or two a day, and voila ... your hack is gone.

I guess hacking might be important if you're a secret agent or in the military and you need that down-to-the-second precision matched to another time source. But if that were the case, you'd be using a digital or quartz timepiece, not a mechanical watch.

[JakeK]

Happy Friday everyone!

[Gebbeth]

Originally Posted by swish77

We all have our likes/dislikes, but personally I find the hacking feature to be the most meaningless and over-hyped feature on a mechanical watch.

It actually makes no sense. Why? Because even the very, very best mechanical watches in the world can lose a second or two a day, and voila ... your hack is gone.

I guess hacking might be important if you're a secret agent or in the military and you need that down-to-the-second precision matched to another time source. But if that were the case, you'd be using a digital or quartz timepiece, not a mechanical watch.

I get it. But for some, like me, it's actually fun to be able to sync with a standard time reference. That's part of owning something as useless as a super expensive mechanical watch right? Fun? Enjoyment of ownership, especially if you are a little OCD like me.

Also, that being said, if other manufacturers are offering this feature on similar models, and even cheap watches have this feature, why doesn't VC do this?

Is this a philosophical thing? A style thing? That part is what I don't get. Obviously, it can't be a technical or cost thing. I'd like to hear why it's not included.

One can dismiss it and/or not care, but why not add a simple feature that caters to those who want it?

[swish77]

Originally Posted by Gebbeth

I get it. But for some, like me, it's actually fun to be able to sync with a standard time reference. That's part of owning something as useless as a super expensive mechanical watch right? Fun? Enjoyment of ownership, especially if you are a little OCD like me.

But you're not really "syncing" with another source, not for long anyway. You'll most likely be out of sync in a day or two. And that's perhaps why VC doesn't offer it, because it's not considered an important feature of a mechanical watch. Same with many Pateks. No hacking.

That said, if the preference for hacking is just because it's cool, then OK, I can buy that. But it's not really a functional hack even on mechanical watches that have that feature.

Also, from a technical standpoint, I've read that stopping the movement to hack can affect the balance wheel and the consistency of accuracy.

[Redbox]

I have the blue face 4500v. When I got it out of the box it was running 5 sec slow a day. I demagnitized it and that solved the problem.

When syncing with time.gov because it doesn't hack, no problem. My sync is at 20 seconds instead of a hacked minute hand at 12.

The watch is spot on.

Hope this makes sense.

[JHATY]

Originally Posted by swish77

We all have our likes/dislikes, but personally I find the hacking feature to be the most meaningless and over-hyped feature on a mechanical watch.

It actually makes no sense. Why? Because even the very, very best mechanical watches in the world can lose a second or two a day, and voila ... your hack is gone.

I guess hacking might be important if you're a secret agent or in the military and you need that down-to-the-second precision matched to another time source. But if that were the case, you'd be using a digital or quartz timepiece, not a mechanical watch.

I like hacking my watches and adjusting them to a time reference every day or every 2 days. It’s just a ritual/habit for me, nothing more to it. Not being able to do that with the Overseas does suck, just a tiny bit.

[EEpro]

Non-hacking has been zero issue for me. In practice when I set the time from stop I'm 0-30 seconds fast anyway. Even on my hacking Rolex movements I don't zero align.

I do track accuracy with watchtracker app which doesn't care the start point as it tracks delta to true time.

A benefit of non-hacking is you can adjust for travel and DST without breaking a timing run.

[Gebbeth]

Did Vacheron change the box and packaging for the Overseas? I’m seeing ones that have a pouch and travel case. Does this mean no more outer display box?

[Watchflair]

Originally Posted by Gebbeth

Did Vacheron change the box and packaging for the Overseas? I’m seeing ones that have a pouch and travel case. Does this mean no more outer display box?

I purchased mine in October and received the normal box. I’d say a piece at this level deserves and requires a proper box etc.


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[Mutsu]

Originally Posted by Gebbeth

Did Vacheron change the box and packaging for the Overseas? I’m seeing ones that have a pouch and travel case. Does this mean no more outer display box?

The travel case is a free extra if you request it I believe. It's just a simple soft pouch with a VC logo on it.

[djtheot]

Does anyone daily there overseas? I have a few pieces but since I picked up a blue chrono overseas it has made a lot of pieces redundant in my collection. The strap system is very clever. Hugely enjoying it.


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[Mutsu]

Originally Posted by djtheot

Does anyone daily there overseas? I have a few pieces but since I picked up a blue chrono overseas it has made a lot of pieces redundant in my collection. The strap system is very clever. Hugely enjoying it.


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I rotate between 3 of my 4 watches, my overseas gets joint most wrist time along with my Laureato. When I go to put on my watch I usually just go for what I feel at the time - the Laureato is a lot more under the radar though as my overseas is rose gold.

Only negative about wearing the rose gold often is it easily picks up scratches, but I'm not too fussed about it. Enjoying wearing the watches is more important to me.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by djtheot

Does anyone daily there overseas? I have a few pieces but since I picked up a blue chrono overseas it has made a lot of pieces redundant in my collection. The strap system is very clever. Hugely enjoying it.


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Yes, blue 4500 is my daily.

Holds up to daily scratches and what not really well. I prefer the bracelet to both OEM and aftermarket options. It's by far my best fitting watch and keeps great time on wrist. It hates the winder but rarely sees it.

[Mutsu]

Originally Posted by EEpro

Yes, blue 4500 is my daily.

Holds up to daily scratches and what not really well. I prefer the bracelet to both OEM and aftermarket options. It's by far my best fitting watch and keeps great time on wrist. It hates the winder but rarely sees it.

Tempted to get a second overseas in SS and blue like yours.

[neurotichamster8]

Originally Posted by Gebbeth

Did Vacheron change the box and packaging for the Overseas? I’m seeing ones that have a pouch and travel case. Does this mean no more outer display box?

November 2022 dated 7900v--seems like no box/packaging only pouch/travel case. Does this seem the way VC is going??

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by Mutsu

Tempted to get a second overseas in SS and blue like yours.

Rose and SS blue are different enough I bet it would work great. I'd leave SS on bracelet and Rose on rubber I think.

[red1108nyc]

Never owned a VC and interested in the blue overseas and wanted to feel the size on a 7 inch wrist. Stopped by Manhattan 57th street boutique hoping to get lucky and at least able to try one on but no cigar. High security joint and the staff couldn’t have been nicer. Will continue the quest

[Kirk Lazarus]

Originally Posted by neurotichamster8

November 2022 dated 7900v--seems like no box/packaging only pouch/travel case. Does this seem the way VC is going??

Richemont is going the way of eco packaging. Breitling was the first to ditch the traditional boxes. You’ll see it on all their other brands here shortly including VC.

[Cayenne06]

Originally Posted by djtheot

Does anyone daily there overseas? I have a few pieces but since I picked up a blue chrono overseas it has made a lot of pieces redundant in my collection. The strap system is very clever. Hugely enjoying it.


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I do wear my 7900V frequently, but not everyday. What I enjoy is wearing it with a different strap or the bracelet every time I put it on. I have even found myself changing the strap or bracelet during the day.

[Gebbeth]

Originally Posted by Kirk Lazarus

Richemont is going the way of eco packaging. Breitling was the first to ditch the traditional boxes. You’ll see it on all their other brands here shortly including VC.

Now this is a topic for another thread. I rather liked the nice packaging. I know others feel it's a pain, and environmentally, probably not the best thing to do, but for high end watches, it was just that "thing" that gave the watch that extra bling.

Isn't there a middle ground? Can't boxes be made of recycled materials? Most serious collectors keep their boxes anyway, so they're not exactly thrown out in the trash are they?

[quantumdna]

[Andy0331]

Originally Posted by Gebbeth

Now this is a topic for another thread. I rather liked the nice packaging. I know others feel it's a pain, and environmentally, probably not the best thing to do, but for high end watches, it was just that "thing" that gave the watch that extra bling.

Agreed. I liked the recent box, with the subtle maltese crosses; it figures they'd change it up when the Boutique manage told me I was ~4 weeks out on my blue 7900v (after ~18 months). Between the calf strap replacing the alligator and the new box, it's a bit disappointing compared to what I put a deposit on.

Yes, boxes sit on a closet shelf, but they do look nice upon opening and are pretty easy to store. As far as environmental impact, I imagine that wooden boxes are probably relatively neutral and probably far less likely to end up in a landfill than the travel cases provided now. Finding "complete" preowned examples when more manufacturers go this route will probably become be more difficult; people will toss or lose all the little stuff.

[rag5178]

I'm not crazy about the move several brands seem to be making away from formal watch boxes either. I think I'm in the minority, but I actually display my watches in their boxes in my home office so I actually get a lot of use out of the box.

[EEpro]

It's dumb like all self immolation eco BS. That said my Vacheron box made from now extinct exotic hardwood did get caught around a dolphin's neck.

[rico7rico]

Got this today!

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[Mutsu]

Originally Posted by Andy0331

Agreed. I liked the recent box, with the subtle maltese crosses; it figures they'd change it up when the Boutique manage told me I was ~4 weeks out on my blue 7900v (after ~18 months). Between the calf strap replacing the alligator and the new box, it's a bit disappointing compared to what I put a deposit on.

Yes, boxes sit on a closet shelf, but they do look nice upon opening and are pretty easy to store. As far as environmental impact, I imagine that wooden boxes are probably relatively neutral and probably far less likely to end up in a landfill than the travel cases provided now. Finding "complete" preowned examples when more manufacturers go this route will probably become be more difficult; people will toss or lose all the little stuff.

Since I found out the VC box fits 2 watches if you flip it over, I've been using it for my 2 main rotation watches.

I was actually hoping to pick up another VC at some point and do the same with. A real shame if they are getting rid of the boxes.

[trackingtime]

[Watchflair]

Originally Posted by trackingtime

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[Fifteen]

I was offered the gold/white dial dual time by the online boutique after I asked for a SS piece a year ago…I turned it down. Has availability gotten better for ss models?

[swish77]

Originally Posted by Fifteen

I was offered the gold/white dial dual time by the online boutique after I asked for a SS piece a year ago…I turned it down. Has availability gotten better for ss models?

Slightly. I’ve been offered a couple of pieces from a boutique in the last two months, but the most sought-after watches are still tough to get, especially anything with a blue dial.