Nautilus 40th Anniversary - Monday is the big day

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Passionata

imprint is one thing but then there are the stones , it s overkill.
look at the anniversary Sub back to 2003 ,a nice fat hand and indexes and new bezel colour ,everybody was happy.

I can see several versions of the 5711 that would have worked just fine as the 40th, or even the 50th anniversary model, one that would not require using diamonds on the dial 5711/1P with a graphite gray dial. A simple additional twist may have been to turn the dial wheel colour around (dark background, white numbers). It would have made a much more distinct model (compared to the existing 5711/1A and the also existing 5711/1P) than the emboss dial 5711/1P. I know blue is a fancy colour that most people would choose over other colors, but still, I'm getting tired of blue Pateks.

Patek could also remove the seconds hand, even while retaining the current 324Sc movement. A solid caseback would have been a great twist too, just as Patek installed such casebacks on the 175th anniversary models. 3rd idea: remove the seconds hand and the date as well, maybe even use a stripped-down micro-rotor movement (Cal 240), and make an ultra-thin Nautilus.

[tinygears]

Originally Posted by Samui

I think we can expect all the other nautilus models to be upsized at some point.

A new Nautilus Offshore line?

[KarlS]

Everyone bitches about the 175 case back so no pleasing the masses

[tom2517]

Patek is suppose to be discreet, the "math" should be elsewhere such as engraved in the back.

[gummy]

Originally Posted by texex91

Have a feeling will be a disappointment...let's see now that it's October.

Nailed it early Paul...disappointing for sure.

Think PP will allow a dial swap on the 5711?

[masyv6]

Originally Posted by texex91

Back door will be busy at AD's...

I wonder what David will list one of these for...

Originally Posted by wisguy

Patek lost a great opportunity to do something special here.

x2!

Originally Posted by psv

Those were two horrible releases. What were they thinking?

It's just gotta be a cash grab, right? There is no way they could really think that was a good design.

Originally Posted by jeffyy

From hodinkee instagram. If the coolest thing about a new watch is the box it comes in, that's problematic

Problematic is putting it gently

Originally Posted by tom2517

Patek is suppose to be discreet, the "math" should be elsewhere such as engraved in the back.

Some kind of reference to 40th Anniversary on the rotor or back of the case would have been just fine

[RussW]

I've mellowed out a bit on the 5711p since yesterday. Still isn't for my taster, but for those that like the dial are very lucky. A platinum nautilus is awesome no matter what.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by RussW

I've mellowed out a bit on the 5711p since yesterday. Still isn't for my taster, but for those that like the dial are very lucky. A platinum nautilus is awesome no matter what.

Think I agree with you. Probably find the embossing is very discrete. Yesterday was a no, next would be a maybe and a year later Dang wish I had put my name down

[RussW]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Think I agree with you. Probably find the embossing is very discrete. Yesterday was a no, next would be a maybe and a year later Dang wish I had put my name down

You could hedge your bets and put your name down. No doubt you would have the right of refusal if you didn't like it when it came in.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by RussW

You could hedge your bets and put your name down. No doubt you would have the right of refusal if you didn't like it when it came in.

I stand corrected but you pay when it's about a month aaay, the. They prepare the papers in your name. It is a fair point you can always say no if you make the allocation list but doubt they will shortlist you again if you do that!

[RussW]

Originally Posted by KarlS

I stand corrected but you pay when it's about a month aaay, the. They prepare the papers in your name. It is a fair point you can always say no if you make the allocation list but doubt they will shortlist you again if you do that!

Yeah fair point, not worth ruining your chances for something different in the future.

[texex91]

Originally Posted by RussW

Yeah fair point, not worth ruining your chances for something different in the future.

50th is just 10 years away...

[jon_jon]

Originally Posted by KarlS

I stand corrected but you pay when it's about a month aaay, the. They prepare the papers in your name. It is a fair point you can always say no if you make the allocation list but doubt they will shortlist you again if you do that!

This really depends on who has the leverage, the AD or the collector. Many ADs, including the 3 Salons, know they share some of the very high-end clients.

There are a limited number of "mega-collectors" out there and Patek knows them on a first name basis. Just like there are a limited number of "whales" in the casino industry, I believe there are "mega-collectors" who are very valuable to ADs because the collector has brought in so much business to the AD over the years.

However I agree that for the rest of us, it is not a good idea to apply for a special LE piece from an AD and back out at the last minute. ADs do understand that things happen, but this can lead to a difficult situation for the AD having to sell an often high-priced LE application watch with someone else's name on the certificate.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by texex91

50th is just 10 years away...

I heard it's a white dial with 1976-50-2026 printed in black

[RussW]

Originally Posted by texex91

50th is just 10 years away...

[RussW]

Originally Posted by jon_jon

This really depends on who has the leverage, the AD or the collector. Many ADs, including the 3 Salons, know they share some of the very high-end clients.

There are a limited number of "mega-collectors" out there and Patek knows them on a first name basis. Just like there are a limited number of "whales" in the casino industry, I believe there are "mega-collectors" who are very valuable to ADs because the collector has brought in so much business to the AD over the years.

No disrespect to Karl, but I don't think he's a mega collector (yet anyway, who knows how in the future!)

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by RussW

No disrespect to Karl, but I don't think he's a mega collector (yet anyway, who knows how in the future!)

Certainly not And I doubt in the future!! However whilst there are mega collectors who buy one of each I am sure that PP does allocate to the "unwashed masses". They try to get the balance right. For these collectors it's more the ego of recognition that they get the allocation but I think they are probably bitching about who got the 7 allocated 5175's last year versus a 5711P...anyway if they don't phone me it's their loss!

[RussW]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Certainly not And I doubt in the future!! However whilst there are mega collectors who buy one of each I am sure that PP does allocate to the "unwashed masses". They try to get the balance right. For these collectors it's more the ego of recognition that they get the allocation but I think they are probably bitching about who got the 7 allocated 5175's last year versus a 5711P...anyway if they don't phone me it's their loss!

"Their loss"? Sounds like a man who's thinking of saying yes if you get the chance!!

[texex91]

Originally Posted by RussW

"Their loss"? Sounds like a man who's thinking of saying yes if you get the chance!!

Diamonds would be a nice addition Karl

[RussW]

OK, I think it's fair to say we generally feel disappointed with the two new limited editions.

I also think most people like the current Nautilus collection. However, back in 2006 the current collection had a pretty lukewarm reception: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...87#msg_2209203

Food for thought. We are a tough crowd!

[texex91]

Originally Posted by RussW

OK, I think it's fair to say we generally feel disappointed with the two new limited editions.

I also think most people like the current Nautilus collection. However, back in 2006 the current collection had a pretty lukewarm reception: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...87#msg_2209203

Food for thought. We are a tough crowd!

Don't recognize that forum and 2006 is SO 2006.


Now I do like dates on some things..:

[DeeTee]

I would love to have either one. Not a fan of the inscribing on the dial, but I loooove the diamond markers on the blue dial.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by texex91

Diamonds would be a nice addition Karl

I need to speak to Kari!!

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by RussW

"Their loss"? Sounds like a man who's thinking of saying yes if you get the chance!!

I was being facetious....I don't think they are going to worry about little old me one iota!! However with a 5524 and 5930 this year they probably think he got enough!! Anyway the Daytona C has been launched and the Nautilys 40 what are we now going to talk about until Baselworld?

[RussW]

Originally Posted by KarlS

I was being facetious....I don't think they are going to worry about little old me one iota!! However with a 5524 and 5930 this year they probably think he got enough!! Anyway the Daytona C has been launched and the Nautilys 40 what are we now going to talk about until Baselworld?

Just having a bit of fun with you Karl and I know you are not a Patek VIP. But seriously, the 5930 and 5524 are two of my favourite watches from Patek recently, looking forward to your 5930 incoming.

[Oryx]

Originally Posted by KarlS

I was being facetious....I don't think they are going to worry about little old me one iota!! However with a 5524 and 5930 this year they probably think he got enough!! Anyway the Daytona C has been launched and the Nautilys 40 what are we now going to talk about until Baselworld?

How about the Zenith Range Rover edition thst JCB recently launched wearing the new yeezy trainers. it's very sad to see the way Zenith has and continues to be mismanaged....

On a seperate note - have you guys seen shameonwrist on instagram. One of the best watch related instagram accounts!!

[Hairdude1]

Originally Posted by texex91

50th is just 10 years away...

[Marciano490]

Originally Posted by Oryx

How about the Zenith Range Rover edition thst JCB recently launched wearing the new yeezy trainers. it's very sad to see the way Zenith has and continues to be mismanaged....

On a seperate note - have you guys seen shameonwrist on instagram. One of the best watch related instagram accounts!!

Just found him the other day. He's hilarious. Especially his takedowns of Anil's bracelets.

[KarlS]

Bottom line is that collectors wanted a 5711P due to the limited production numbers of the 1st. Then how to you protect the original owners you have to change it a bit so you add the diamond batons and the add those dates to the dial. Both sort of make my food curdle but I bet once you see it in the metal it will be fine and understated. Ihave no doubt they will sell all of them. Not sure how they chose 700 but must be a reason!

[Only70Watch]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Bottom line is that collectors wanted a 5711P due to the limited production numbers of the 1st. Then how to you protect the original owners you have to change it a bit so you add the diamond batons and the add those dates to the dial. Both sort of make my food curdle but I bet once you see it in the metal it will be fine and understated. Ihave no doubt they will sell all of them. Not sure how they chose 700 but must be a reason!

Sounds perfectly logical, but I would have changed it a bit more. For example, a gray dial would have differentiated the watch a lot more from the "old" 5711/1P than the current solution. Not to mention Patek seems to be over-using blue colour lately. 5524G, 5930G, 5327G, 5270G, and now these 2 new models. Gray dial works fine for other platinum models (5140P, 5146P, etc), so I'm sure a gray dial 5711 would look great too. IMHO a gray dial 5711/1P would have protected current 5711/1P owners slightly more, and maybe, just maybe it would have been more desirable too due to being more unique.