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bibbi · 6 March 2022, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

The outflow of funds must be replaced at Haas before anyone knows the final driver line up methinks. Even MSC may need to squeeze his limited money tree.

Reserve drivers seldom have deep pockets at their command. That is another factor.

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Kubica would have, from Orlen. But they’ve prolonged their partnership with Alfa Romeo.

Petroc Tremaine · 6 March 2022, 01:25 AM

Pietro Fittipaldi and Antonio Giovinazzi are the two rumoured contenders for the Haas seat.

SDGT3 · 6 March 2022, 06:04 AM

Whomever gets the HAAS seat will have to bring money. If Pietro had "significant" funding, he probably would have already had the seat. Ferrari has openly said they would prefer Giovanazzi in the seat and maybe that comes with soft dollar compensation in the form of reduced prices on power units to HAAS, who knows.

With regard to Mazepin, one could reasonably argue that he shouldn't have been in F1 in the first place but could have developed into a better driver given time and a better car similar to how Lance Stroll developed into a serviceable F1 pilot from his Williams days to the current situation. Unfortunately, most prospects don't have that luxury of time to develop at the highest level.

Typically, the top drivers garner a lot of media attention and focus, but I have to say that Mazepin has been in F1 news more than any other backmarker that I can remember in just 12 months time!

Chewbacca · 6 March 2022, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SDGT3

Whomever gets the HAAS seat will have to bring money. If Pietro had "significant" funding, he probably would have already had the seat. Ferrari has openly said they would prefer Giovanazzi in the seat and maybe that comes with soft dollar compensation in the form of reduced prices on power units to HAAS, who knows.

With regard to Mazepin, one could reasonably argue that he shouldn't have been in F1 in the first place but could have developed into a better driver given time and a better car similar to how Lance Stroll developed into a serviceable F1 pilot from his Williams days to the current situation. Unfortunately, most prospects don't have that luxury of time to develop at the highest level.

Typically, the top drivers garner a lot of media attention and focus, but I have to say that Mazepin has been in F1 news more than any other backmarker that I can remember in just 12 months time!

The Fittipaldi family is worth $500m usd and they have connections. So Pietro has money but will likely use other peoples sponsorships.

Id like to see a HAAS Penske Andretti F1 team , it has a nice ring to it.

drjrhc · 6 March 2022, 06:25 AM

I think that HAAS Penske Andretti sounds AWESOME! That would be a fantastic combo.

I am really hoping that the new regulations, and all the cost gap stuff coming will make HAAS competitive. Would love to see the American team do good.

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77T · 6 March 2022, 07:02 AM

I’m guessing the HAAS Penske Andretti supporters have never worked for “the Captain”….

That combo won’t happen.

IMHO…
FIT family will not fund HAAS - they are a losing team.

Ferrari would only reduce the prices for their ICE PUs - not put real money in.

GIO is best fit to replace MAZ - now the problem is how to get some OPM.

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SDGT3 · 6 March 2022, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

I’m guessing the HAAS Penske Andretti supporters have never worked for “the Captain”….

That combo won’t happen.

IMHO…
FIT family will not fund HAAS - they are a losing team.

Ferrari would only reduce the prices for their ICE PUs - not put real money in.

GIO is best fit to replace MAZ - now the problem is how to get some OPM.

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Great points Paul... and we really don't know if Pietro has the talent to warrant a fully funded ride through the family.

With regard to HAAS, Penske and Andretti.... that's a lot of egos there... it will never happen and just looking at Gene's face when he's at an F1 race, he looks like he just ate some bad sushi... My guess is that he wants out really bad.

Chewbacca · 6 March 2022, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

I’m guessing the HAAS Penske Andretti supporters have never worked for “the Captain”….

That combo won’t happen.

IMHO…
FIT family will not fund HAAS - they are a losing team.

Ferrari would only reduce the prices for their ICE PUs - not put real money in.

GIO is best fit to replace MAZ - now the problem is how to get some OPM.

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I agree but ownership doesn’t mean team principle. It would be a USA team and allow familiarity for Andretti (I don’t think he’ll get a team alone) and Penske is very old. These guys are professionals, they’ll hire the best people and sit back.

dba · 6 March 2022, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SDGT3

looking at Gene's face when he's at an F1 race, he looks like he just ate some bad sushi... My guess is that he wants out really bad.

He must not want out that bad. According to Andretti, he, Andretti has offered to take the team off of his hands several times.

1st amg · 6 March 2022, 10:23 PM

Giovinazzi should be the guy to step right in...he has the persona/character that all drivers love, he is dependable and has proven he can drive a F1 car....now he needs to find sponsors with Haas ditching their major one.

texasmade · 7 March 2022, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 1st amg

Giovinazzi should be the guy to step right in...he has the persona/character that all drivers love, he is dependable and has proven he can drive a F1 car....now he needs to find sponsors with Haas ditching their major one.

Given how cheap Gene Haas has been with his team the past 2 years, I think this is all that's going to matter when it comes to the next driver.

Lol-x · 7 March 2022, 11:03 AM

Patina - F1

Barriers and grand stands are built for the Melbourne race in April.

Patina-F1.jpg

Spot the watch!!

jatco · 7 March 2022, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lol-x

Patina - F1

Barriers and grand stands are built for the Melbourne race in April.

Attachment 1278192

Spot the watch!!

Over the crown, centre.

What did I win....

SDGT3 · 8 March 2022, 08:35 AM

Love this quote regarding Fernando Alonso and rate him as one of the best F1 drivers of all time regardless of the fact he only has 2 WDC but because of what he's able to do with a lessor car for many of his years.

Former Ferrari sporting director Massimo Rivola on Fernando Alonso...
"Nobody read races like him. Many times he made those of us on the pit wall feel like idiots because he could see beyond."

Hope that Ferrari, along with McLaren, can somehow join the fight against Mercedes and Red Bull and make it a 4 team competition instead of a 2 driver competition.

enjoythemusic · 8 March 2022, 09:06 AM

Agreed, Alonso is an amazingly talented development driver.

Hey, haven't heard any news yet, did they cancel the Saudia Arabia race as they did Russia?

SDGT3 · 8 March 2022, 10:04 AM

Oh steven, always wanting to stir the pot. The answer is no, but Imola will be on the schedule until at least 2025!

Rad22 · 8 March 2022, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Agreed, Alonso is an amazingly talented development driver.

Hey, haven't heard any news yet, did they cancel the Saudia Arabia race as they did Russia?

Lol my post about this got deleted. I got a notification that you quoted my post but never got to see it

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enjoythemusic · 8 March 2022, 10:10 AM

Imola is good.

Was curious how the rules applied in deciding...

F1 did just take my $$ for this season, does that get me a question during a press event?

jatco · 8 March 2022, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Agreed, Alonso is an amazingly talented development driver.

.
...? Development driver...

with 2 WDC under his belt.
Think you got that wrong...!!
"What is a development driver in F1?
A test driver, often referred to as a test and development driver, is a racing driver who is employed by a Formula One team to be involved in the development and testing of a particular F1 car but is not involved in the actual F1 race."

SDGT3 · 8 March 2022, 10:42 AM

Yea, agree. Since the elimination of "in season" testing the roll of the race drivers for development has been diminished.

enjoythemusic · 8 March 2022, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jatco

.
...? Development driver...

with 2 WDC under his belt.
Think you got that wrong...!!
"What is a development driver in F1?

We're cool, what I mean is a High Compliment. He truly can help develop a car to achieve maximum performance. Senna was also fanatical in this regard. Not all drivers are so detail-oriented... plus YES he is one hell of a driver.

Put Alonso in a Mercedes with an equal team around him, Hamilton would get powned imho.

77T · 8 March 2022, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Put Alonso in a Mercedes with an equal team around him, Hamilton would get powned imho.

That!!!

That right there is the best elevator pitch for a new Netflix series…

F1 Mortal Combat: ALO/HAM Wham!

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jatco · 8 March 2022, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

That!!!

That right there is the best elevator pitch for a new Netflix series…

F1 Mortal Combat: ALO/HAM Wham!

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That...would be worth the price of admission....!!

SDGT3 · 8 March 2022, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Put Alonso in a Mercedes with an equal team around him, Hamilton would get powned imho.

It might not even be that close...

jatco · 8 March 2022, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SDGT3

It might not even be that close...

..Which way..
Personally, I don't think Alonso could match or beat Hamilton...(tho I'd like him to, just for the hell of it...!!).. Just sayin..!!

snowgoat · 8 March 2022, 04:18 PM

We had ham/Alonso. In a Maclaren when Alonso was top of his game and Ham a rookie. Alonso was made very uncomfortable. Ham would monster him.

asloper6001 · 8 March 2022, 04:30 PM

Im just ready for the season to finally kick off. I cant take having to watch nascar to get my fix much longer! I need the euro bond kill plots and twists!

SDGT3 · 8 March 2022, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by asloper6001

Im just ready for the season to finally kick off. I cant take having to watch nascar to get my fix much longer! I need the euro bond kill plots and twists!

MotoGP started last week. Always great racing.

enjoythemusic · 9 March 2022, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by snowgoat

We had ham/Alonso. In a Maclaren when Alonso was top of his game and Ham a rookie. Alonso was made very uncomfortable. Ham would monster him.

That was then... let's see what would happen in 2022 with a new car to be developed. ALO FTW

SDGT3 · 9 March 2022, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

That was then... let's see what would happen in 2022 with a new car to be developed. ALO FTW

100% agree and would take Alonso 11 out of 10 times against Ham. That being said, it doesn't look like Alpine will have a competitive car again this year so 2022 or 2023 will be Alonso's final year in F1.

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SDGT3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: Phillip Location: Right here Watch: SD43 Daytona Blusy Posts: 2,173	! Oh steven, always wanting to stir the pot. The answer is no, but Imola will be on the schedule until at least 2025!

8 March 2022, 10:10 AM	#3378
enjoythemusic 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,608	Imola is good. Was curious how the rules applied in deciding... F1 did just take my $$ for this season, does that get me a question during a press event? __________________ __________________ Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

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Petroc Tremaine "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Doggerland Posts: 228	Pietro Fittipaldi and Antonio Giovinazzi are the two rumoured contenders for the Haas seat.

6 March 2022, 06:04 AM	#3363
SDGT3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: Phillip Location: Right here Watch: SD43 Daytona Blusy Posts: 2,173	Whomever gets the HAAS seat will have to bring money. If Pietro had "significant" funding, he probably would have already had the seat. Ferrari has openly said they would prefer Giovanazzi in the seat and maybe that comes with soft dollar compensation in the form of reduced prices on power units to HAAS, who knows. With regard to Mazepin, one could reasonably argue that he shouldn't have been in F1 in the first place but could have developed into a better driver given time and a better car similar to how Lance Stroll developed into a serviceable F1 pilot from his Williams days to the current situation. Unfortunately, most prospects don't have that luxury of time to develop at the highest level. Typically, the top drivers garner a lot of media attention and focus, but I have to say that Mazepin has been in F1 news more than any other backmarker that I can remember in just 12 months time!

6 March 2022, 06:25 AM	#3365
drjrhc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: KY Watch: Calibre 11 Monaco Posts: 665	I think that HAAS Penske Andretti sounds AWESOME! That would be a fantastic combo. I am really hoping that the new regulations, and all the cost gap stuff coming will make HAAS competitive. Would love to see the American team do good. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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1st amg 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: nicholas Location: ottawa canada Watch: Rolex,AP,Panerai Posts: 10,537	Giovinazzi should be the guy to step right in...he has the persona/character that all drivers love, he is dependable and has proven he can drive a F1 car....now he needs to find sponsors with Haas ditching their major one.

8 March 2022, 08:35 AM	#3374
SDGT3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: Phillip Location: Right here Watch: SD43 Daytona Blusy Posts: 2,173	Love this quote regarding Fernando Alonso and rate him as one of the best F1 drivers of all time regardless of the fact he only has 2 WDC but because of what he's able to do with a lessor car for many of his years. Former Ferrari sporting director Massimo Rivola on Fernando Alonso... "Nobody read races like him. Many times he made those of us on the pit wall feel like idiots because he could see beyond." Hope that Ferrari, along with McLaren, can somehow join the fight against Mercedes and Red Bull and make it a 4 team competition instead of a 2 driver competition.

8 March 2022, 10:42 AM	#3380
SDGT3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: Phillip Location: Right here Watch: SD43 Daytona Blusy Posts: 2,173	Yea, agree. Since the elimination of "in season" testing the roll of the race drivers for development has been diminished.

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snowgoat "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Queensland, AU Posts: 32	We had ham/Alonso. In a Maclaren when Alonso was top of his game and Ham a rookie. Alonso was made very uncomfortable. Ham would monster him.

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asloper6001 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: West Coast Posts: 1,363	Im just ready for the season to finally kick off. I cant take having to watch nascar to get my fix much longer! I need the euro bond kill plots and twists!

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