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Old 1 February 2020, 09:33 AM   #331
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I said this on the Reddit thread. It wouldn't surprise me. He's in the process of trying to begin building his "strap" brand. I'm assuming he's expended quite a bit of cash to build his online rep. Probably on the backs of others (i.e. pulling this crap to get the rep to do more and more).
What’s the link to the reddit thread?
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:36 AM   #332
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He just shut off all comments on his IG acct...
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:36 AM   #333
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What’s the link to the reddit thread?
It's highlighted post on the r/watches subreddit
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:37 AM   #334
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Wow check this out, he used a fake photo for his brush fires sob story.
Quoting so this can be on top on the new page. What. A. Scumbag.
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:38 AM   #335
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Wow check this out, he used a fake photo for his brush fires sob story.
Oh wow, that really is further proof he's a scammer and it was no accidental mistake.

Posting a photo purporting to be a photo he took of his parents house on fire when it was a newspaper photo from a couple of months earlier.
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:38 AM   #336
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Wow check this out, he used a fake photo for his brush fires sob story.
Wow!!!
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:41 AM   #337
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Wow check this out, he used a fake photo for his brush fires sob story.
All of this is such a bad look but this is just wrong on so many levels. He is so screwed and it's very well deserved
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:45 AM   #338
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He's done.
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:46 AM   #339
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Is/has anyone reported this to Australian authorities? How about reporting them to Facebook? If they are running a fraudulent business someone should take a look.


Australia doesn't do much. Our punishments are weak. Unless your stealing from the government it's a minor penalty compared to other countries.

Alan Bond who's fraud involved billions go a few years. They had a legal case on TV where a man had a whole counterfeit DVD operation business, they raided his house, store, so much police manpower and the penalty was a few thousand dollar fine.
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Australia doesn't do much. Our punishments are weak. Unless your stealing from the government it's a minor penalty compared to other countries.
BUT.. he allegedly is stealing from the Gov!

He's allegedly collected GST (Sales Tax) when his entity is not registered with the ATO.

This means it is highly possible he has been pocketing an extra 10% on his customers, and looting the gov of its due taxes.

If that is what has been happening, he is about to get into a lot of trouble.

Not to mention, the bushfire scammery is going to attract reporters like a pig to shit.
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:49 AM   #341
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BUT.. he allegedly is stealing from the Gov!



He's allegedly collected GST (Sales Tax) when his entity is not registered with the ATO.



This means it is highly possible he has been pocketing an extra 10% on his customers, and looting the gov of its due taxes.



If that is what has been happening, he is about to get into a lot of trouble.



Not to mention, the bushfire scammery is going to attract reporters like a pig to shit.


Ah yes, they'll talk a look at this.
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:54 AM   #342
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Ah yes, they'll talk a look at this.
Yep, and the Bushfire scammery is what is going to make this appealing to the everyday Australian. It's a Belle Gibson moment now, who (for Americans) is an Aussie chick who scammed people for money by faking a cancer diagnosis. Just waiting for it to hit now.
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:54 AM   #343
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I guess Chris can be considered Chinese with his way of censoring comments. He blocked me from his page by merely leaving a comment!
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:59 AM   #344
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I guess Chris can be considered Chinese with his way of censoring comments. He blocked me from his page by merely leaving a comment!
How many "followers" has he hemorrhaged since this started? Anyone tracking?
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:01 AM   #345
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Wow, as someone that's currently in search of a Daytona, this came up at the nick of time. GJ op on exposing this guy, saved us potential buyers from a scam.
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:04 AM   #346
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I like the fact that he charges 10% GST (good service tax) on his invoice in the WhatsApp thread when he sold the fake daytona.

however a quick search reveals he is not registered for GST and hence if not registered for GST you can't charge GST...He's pocketing this extra 10% instead of giving it to the tax office.

Chris, don't be surprised if the Australian Tax Office comes knocking....
Anyone in Australia can contact the ATO anonymously on 1800 060 062 and report his activities.
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:11 AM   #347
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Wow... I mean if you're going to sell someone a watch in this price range, might as well use your skills to check that it's not a fake before sending it...
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:13 AM   #348
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Wow and he is an Admin on their Facebook site dodgy af! the integrity has been lost

https://www.instagram.com/sydney_watch_guy/
Well that explains him defending Chris and refusing to ban him. I really think Chris sees a way out of this, a way back and they are leaving the door open for him for some strange reason. Perhaps they were working together on these sales? The problem is, this will never go away. The internet remembers. I always felt they spoilt this wonderful hobby here in Australia. Their behaviour and attitudes were disgusting and none of this now surprises me at all. I have personally had a few run ins with Chris and with this news I feel like Christmas has come early.
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:15 AM   #349
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Yes and he is defending Chris and refusing to ban him. Interesting dont you think?
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:18 AM   #350
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Just woke up guys. Glad to see this news spreading.
Here's the images of him using an online bush fire image for his own sob story and excuses. I don't know how anyone could still have any doubt on what sort of person Chris is.
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:20 AM   #351
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Chris sold my friend a daytona some time ago. Eerily similar story to this but in the end my friend got tired of dragging the whole thing on and just put it aside and accepted it as a loss. I will try to make him come forward with his story as well.
Please speak up with as much detail as possible.
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:20 AM   #352
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I had an unfortunate incident with him a while back. He was claiming to give away 10 casioaks. Looked like a total follow me on all my media to bloat my subscribers list plea. Which is common but the thing that seemed off to me was he announced the winners in an unrelated YouTube in a non similar format of user names and partial emails. Can't remember exactly but i asked about it in his feed and messaged him if he could get some winners to post. He was unprofessional and gruff with me and the others, deleted the and feed blocked me. Confirmed to me he acts just like the meathead he looks like.
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:28 AM   #353
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just woke up guys. Glad to see this news spreading.
Here's the images of him using an online bush fire image for his own sob story and excuses. I don't know how anyone could still have any doubt on what sort of person chris is.
lol!
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:34 AM   #354
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Okay having read the whole thing here are my 2 cents.

Whilst I don't think Chris set out to scam the client, I think what happened is

- He got a decent price on a Daytona that he intended to flip

- Sometime between posting the watch for sale and promising to ship out the watch he realised it was fake.

- To protect his reputation he went panic mode stalled and stalled and stalled on shipping to try and find a real watch to send, hence all of the excuses regarding the shipping, and refusing to give the buyer any details at all about the supposed shipped parcel, as well as refusing to provide any correspondence between himself and DHL and insurer.

- Using family issues, NZ volcano and Bushfires as excuses - some or part of those excuses may be true but I find it hard to believe that all of these issues compounded at the same time - whilst possible, unlikely.

- Buyer understandably threatens legal action and Chris makes the drastic move of just sending out the fake watch hoping the problem will go away.

- Once buyer finds out it's fake, Chris doesn't have the funds to refund and drags the process out longer

That's my assessment based on the facts, really poor from Chris actually and should rightfully damage his rep


Seems a pretty extreme reaction if, as you say, he only realised it was fake after he posted it for sale.

If he did genuinely only realise it was fake AFTER posting it for sale, surely a better thing to have done would have been to simply contact the buyer and just say he had found a small problem with the watch & didn’t feel comfortable sending it out in that condition.

He could have apologised for any inconvenience & refunded the money & that would have been the end of it.

Buyer would have accepted the story and been grateful for the ‘honesty’ - nobody wants to receive a watch with a problem, right?

But no, he made a load of elaborate excuses & then posted out a counterfeit watch.

It makes no sense to me especially as he has more to lose than most with his reputation as a general all round good egg & all that goes with it.

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Old 1 February 2020, 10:40 AM   #355
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Seems a pretty extreme reaction if, as you say, he only realised it was fake after he posted it for sale.

If he did genuinely only realise it was fake AFTER posting it for sale, surely a better thing to have done would have been to simply contact the buyer and just say he had found a small problem with the watch & didn’t feel comfortable sending it out in that condition.

He could have apologised for any inconvenience & refunded the money & that would have been the end of it.

Buyer would have accepted the story and been grateful for the ‘honesty’ - nobody wants to receive a watch with a problem, right?

But no, he made a load of elaborate excuses & then posted out a counterfeit watch.

It makes no sense to me especially as he has more to lose than most with his reputation as a general all round good egg & all that goes with it.

The mans a fool.
Couldn't agree more. But the problem is most people are scared to speak up, and his counting on that. Using his "reputation" as a shield. He prays on these people. Look even now, there is so much evidence against this guy, yet some that have been scammed by him are still too scared to speak up about it.
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:40 AM   #356
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Using the bushfires to advance his own gains.... that photo was of someone's ACTUAL parent's house that had lost everything. What a scumbag.
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:41 AM   #357
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How many "followers" has he hemorrhaged since this started? Anyone tracking?


His followers went down at least a couple thousand since I checked.


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Just posting again for anyone whos missed it.
Transcript posted in a friendlier format.

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He just shut off all comments on his IG acct...


They were back on for a while, and just got shut off again according to a pop up while I was typing a comment.


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Wow, this adds more fuel to the fire. As good as the group is and it's members, it is now tainted, whether Chris is admin or not.
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