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Old 23 May 2019, 10:49 AM   #361
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So if you were 'helping' a friend sell his watch why the shady act? Why use your 'Jundi' account to pump up 'Jaspreet'?

If you are 2 years old and pull something like this we'd all forgive you. Not so much when you are adult.
Why are you so mad man. We moved on. Time you do too
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Old 23 May 2019, 10:52 AM   #362
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Old 23 May 2019, 10:56 AM   #363
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Why are you so mad man. We moved on. Time you do too
hahah you're moving on now that your hand is caught in the cookie jar?

Don't think anyone is mad, just looking for an explanation and curious why someone would pull something like this.
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Old 23 May 2019, 10:59 AM   #364
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I don’t think anyone is mad.

It just appears a couple of members noticed that you pumped the CHNR here before it was posted for sale - and they called it out.

Then they noticed your info was in another FS post under a different account. You explained why. Then they noticed you posted props for that very account.




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Old 23 May 2019, 11:39 AM   #365
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hahah you're moving on now that your hand is caught in the cookie jar?

Don't think anyone is mad, just looking for an explanation and curious why someone would pull something like this.
Lol yes I’m caught. Guilty as charged! For what...idk
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Old 23 May 2019, 11:41 AM   #366
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The post title should be changed to “My AD got lucky today”.
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Old 23 May 2019, 12:21 PM   #367
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Old 23 May 2019, 01:31 PM   #368
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My God.....I am part of a lot of message boards for a lot of high-end stuff (cars, etc.) and a lot of you guys on here are THE most petty people of all. It's not even close.

WHO CARES what the story is. He bought 3 watches that he knows he can move in a minute because he wanted the Daytona. Newsflash, 99.5% of Rolex buyers don't buy them on TRF. They don't even know about the site. He can throw the watches on Ebay and sell them in an hour! That is where the watches sell and most sellers on there are just as reputable as the ones here. He doesn't need to pay $30 to sell on TRF. If anything, the sellers on TRF have taken advantage of TRF's reputation and false sense of security in being a safe marketplace by charging MUCH MORE for watches than others sell them for (and TRF sellers don't even have to pay fees to Ebay or Paypal). So DavidSW will charge $20k bank wire for a watch that someone will sell for $19k on Ebay and then get $1k taken off in fees. So...why would I buy from DavidSW again?

Um, let me think.....bank wire $20k to someone from TRF whose "credibility" was that they paid $30 for a membership.....or pay someone $19k on Ebay where I am protected by Ebay and Paypal and where actual name/address info can be retrieved legally?

Did people really call the dealer to complain? Over being offered the opportunity to spend $12k on a watch? A watch....that tells time.

If I owned a business and received some items on a limited basis, I would sell to WHOEVER GIVES ME THE MOST BUSINESS. There is no law saying you NEED to be put on a list. It's a courtesy. So I should sell a Daytona to you for $12k because you are on a list instead of the guy who is offering to pay me $60k for 3 watches?

That business-sense might be why a lot of you have 1 Rolex (bought at MSRP after a 3-year wait) and not 4 Rolex.
Well-said.

As stated previously, the AD did not break any Rolex code of conduct. Bundling is not against business practice, and so many in here are butthurt because OP skipped the waiting list and put them a spot back I find that amusing to say the least.
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Old 23 May 2019, 01:33 PM   #369
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I am still angry at the need to take photos while the car is moving.

That's the real issue here.

Who knows if the OP is a liar. Who cares. It's been entertaining at least. His refusal to answer basic questions is hilarious and throwing out the "I also have a Ferrari" was amazing.

To the guys who actually called the AD to complain. There are more important things in life.

The only thing we can say for sure is that naming an AD, true story or not, shows the OPs level of tact. Accomplished absolutely nothing. Completely juvenile and the age old saying holds true. Money doesn't buy class.
REALLY....? Knowing some of you people, your first call after the AD was probably to the Ohio State Police to report him taking a picture while driving. Seriously, grow a set.
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Old 23 May 2019, 01:43 PM   #370
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Well-said.

As stated previously, the AD did not break any Rolex code of conduct. Bundling is not against business practice, and so many in here are butthurt because OP skipped the waiting list and put them a spot back I find that amusing to say the least.
Let's just call a spade a spade....it's a lot of people on here who think they are extremely huge ballers because they own 2 Rolex's that they waited forever for just to buy at MSRP whereas others can go in and buy $70k in watches like nothing. This is a Rolex forum, not a Michael Kors forum. Go into the off-topic forum on here and see all the pics of Bentleys, Porsches, Ferraris, etc....lots of money here, boys.

Also, I don't care if I make $250k or $750k per year.....am I just supposed to gift someone a $16k CHNR because I'm a "big baller?" How stupid and financially dumb are some of you.

Who is dumber? The guy who pays $20k for a $12k Daytona? Or the guy who pays for 2 extra in-demand watches just so he can get that Daytona for $12k? Especially in this market where we know ANYONE can turn around in a day and sell SS models for MSRP. Again, this might be why he has a Ferrari and $70k liquid to spend and a lot of you don't. Just saying. He basically got paid $8k for the labor of taking two days and selling two watches that sell themselves. He was paid $8k for that in the Daytona savings.
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Old 23 May 2019, 01:48 PM   #371
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Well-said.

As stated previously, the AD did not break any Rolex code of conduct. Bundling is not against business practice, and so many in here are butthurt because OP skipped the waiting list and put them a spot back I find that amusing to say the least.
Hey, I don't love bundling, either. I think it's a lose-lose for the customer 99% of the time because the dealer normally tries to get you to buy some garbage Rolex models no one wants or some gold jewelry for the wife. However, when they are giving you two other in-demand models, it's not a bad deal. I think it's rare for a dealer to do this, though, because there is no real incentive.....the AD could easily have sold the CHNR and the Day Date to other customers fast.....but hey, if a guy is in there now with a check written, why not kill three birds with one stone?

I don't feel bundling is any more fair than saying Joe Schmoe is next to get the Hulk because he is on this stupid list where he put $100 down to save his spot (10 minutes after Rolex released their new hot model at Basel). LAME.
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Old 23 May 2019, 01:49 PM   #372
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Let's just call a spade a spade....it's a lot of people on here who think they are extremely huge ballers because they own 2 Rolex's that they waited forever for just to buy at MSRP whereas others can go in and buy $70k in watches like nothing. This is a Rolex forum, not a Michael Kors forum. Go into the off-topic forum on here and see all the pics of Bentleys, Porsches, Ferraris, etc....lots of money here, boys.

Also, I don't care if I make $250k or $750k per year.....am I just supposed to gift someone a $16k CHNR because I'm a "big baller?" How stupid and financially dumb are some of you.

Who is dumber? The guy who pays $20k for a $12k Daytona? Or the guy who pays for 2 extra in-demand watches just so he can get that Daytona for $12k? Especially in this market where we know ANYONE can turn around in a day and sell SS models for MSRP. Again, this might be why he has a Ferrari and $70k liquid to spend and a lot of you don't. Just saying. He basically got paid $8k for the labor of taking two days and selling two watches that sell themselves. He was paid $8k for that in the Daytona savings.
Not many in here were able to piece together that this was a good deal

I for one commended OP for the deal. I would have done exactly the same.

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Old 23 May 2019, 02:18 PM   #373
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As stated previously, the AD did not break any Rolex code of conduct. Bundling is not against business practice...
So why this then?

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Hello,

My name is Chris Sheiban with Sheiban Jewelers, and I would like to start by saying the watches stated above by Jundi3391 were not purchased at Sheiban Jewelers. This is a direct insult to our establishment and everything we stand for. We have not, nor will we ever "bundle" Rolex watches or prioritize a client ahead of others because of a multi-purchase offer.

To Jundi3391, we do not appreciate the slandering of our company in your post and it is a defamation of our character.
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Old 23 May 2019, 02:29 PM   #374
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Got lucky at my AD

The deal works.

Daytona and CHNR at retail

20% off DD

Flip the DD and CHNR. Even if you lose you won’t lose much. (Def will equate to less than grey market value of that same Daytona) And created a solid relationship with AD

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Old 23 May 2019, 02:31 PM   #375
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So why this then?
There are no rules against bundled purchases.

Why did Sheiban post? Saving face and telling the people of "teh interwebz" that their moral compass is in order. As I stated before, doing bundles is probably not the most ethical practice, but it is not against Rolex's guidelines. They need to keep their local clientele happy; the guys who are on the waiting list for years just so they can buy a daytona at MSRP and come back again in 5 years to buy another hot piece (same people I would put in the back of the queue vs OP who would be splashing 60K in one go).

Remember the time when someone posted on this forum the letter from Rolex that ADs had to rip off stickers from the watches and the vast majority were questioning the authencity? Fast forward to this date; no ADs give plastic coffins anymore, they rip off ALL stickers and they mark their warranty cards with XXXX or your full name (guess that letter was not so much BS). OP most likely did purchase from Sheiban and he did get this deal.
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Old 23 May 2019, 02:56 PM   #376
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No Rolex rules state that they can't bundle. They haven't broken the rules, but they've broken the "moral-code" (if there is such a thing anymore). The post is to save face.

What Jundi could do is to post the back of the warranty card. That would make up and shut up the post from the supposed AD.
"OP most likely did purchase from Sheiban and he did get this deal."

Odd that you are defending him given that he has done everything but this.
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Old 23 May 2019, 03:22 PM   #377
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Wow this thread has turned out to be more exciting than I expected. Looks like OP lucked out with a great deal and then named AD showed up to save face. If that turns out to be the case then the AD's attempt includes a pretty deceptive statement. Probably not the best method for damage control.
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Old 23 May 2019, 03:29 PM   #378
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"OP most likely did purchase from Sheiban and he did get this deal."

Odd that you are defending him given that he has done everything but this.
I don't see a reason for him to lie. Someone asked him who the AD was, and he replied. When that was done, someone quoted him to lock it in. He was caught slipping, and now everyone just wants to pounce on it.

Reading through this thread there is so much pettiness, hatred and small-minded attitude that I'm happy he skipped the queue and "boasted" on this forum. He didnt step on toes; people just put their feet out.

It was ultimately a great deal.
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Wow this thread has turned out to be more exciting than I expected. Looks like OP lucked out with a great deal and then named AD showed up to save face. If that turns out to be the case then the AD's attempt includes a pretty deceptive statement. Probably not the best method for damage control.
Exactly, if Jundi3391 is holding an ace in the hole, his warranty card(s), all he has to do is play it, save his reputation and show the forum that the AD lied.

Come on Jundi3391, if you haven't crashed your Ferrari taking a wrist shot, Mr. Sheiban has called you out!

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I don't see a reason for him to lie. Someone asked him who the AD was, and he replied. When that was done, someone quoted him to lock it in. He was caught slipping, and now everyone just wants to pounce on it.

Reading through this thread there is so much pettiness, hatred and small-minded attitude that I'm happy he skipped the queue and "boasted" on this forum. He didnt step on toes; people just put their feet out.

It was ultimately a great deal.
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I don't go to bat for people I don't know and very few of those I do.
I've seen it before how this forum reacts. On multiple occasions. Sometimes it's just better to ignore.

Don't think Jundi cares about his reputation on an Internet forum. He has a job to do and a business to run. Otherwise he wouldn't afford to buy 3 watches with a single swipe.
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Old 23 May 2019, 03:46 PM   #382
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Exactly, if Jundi3391 is holding an ace in the hole, his warranty card(s), all he has to do is play it, save his reputation and show the forum that the AD lied.


Not sure I agree with you there, as much as it might seem satisfying to have a 'gotcha' moment. I think the OP likely feels terrible for opening this whole situation up to criticism and putting the AD in a bit of a pickle. He doesn't need to do anything except enjoy his great watches. He already shared too much info no need to dig any deeper.
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Exactly, if Jundi3391 is holding an ace in the hole, his warranty card(s), all he has to do is play it, save his reputation and show the forum that the AD lied.

Come on Jundi3391, if you haven't crashed your Ferrari taking a wrist shot, Mr. Sheiban has called you out!

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Why would he post that just to possibly get the dealer in trouble? This is a dealer who obviously helped him out. There is no proof of anything if he doesn't post the warranty card. Yet, he is supposed to do that....just to make you guys happy?
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I've seen it before how this forum reacts. On multiple occasions. Sometimes it's just better to ignore.

Don't think Jundi cares about his reputation on an Internet forum. He has a job to do and a business to run. Otherwise he wouldn't afford to buy 3 watches with a single swipe.
In fact you have no knowledge of who Jundi3391 is, what he cares about, what he does for a living, what he can afford, who he has a crush on, what his favourite colour is, whether he liked my poem, whether we will end up best buddies etc..

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Why would he post that just to possibly get the dealer in trouble? This is a dealer who obviously helped him out. There is no proof of anything if he doesn't post the warranty card. Yet, he is supposed to do that....just to make you guys happy?
I know, this Jundi3391 fellow is a most interesting and charismatic individual who has us all dancing to his hypnotic rhythm.

Damn you Jundi3391, damn you!
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Let's just call a spade a spade....it's a lot of people on here who think they are extremely huge ballers because they own 2 Rolex's that they waited forever for just to buy at MSRP whereas others can go in and buy $70k in watches like nothing. This is a Rolex forum, not a Michael Kors forum. Go into the off-topic forum on here and see all the pics of Bentleys, Porsches, Ferraris, etc....lots of money here, boys.

Also, I don't care if I make $250k or $750k per year.....am I just supposed to gift someone a $16k CHNR because I'm a "big baller?" How stupid and financially dumb are some of you.

Who is dumber? The guy who pays $20k for a $12k Daytona? Or the guy who pays for 2 extra in-demand watches just so he can get that Daytona for $12k? Especially in this market where we know ANYONE can turn around in a day and sell SS models for MSRP. Again, this might be why he has a Ferrari and $70k liquid to spend and a lot of you don't. Just saying. He basically got paid $8k for the labor of taking two days and selling two watches that sell themselves. He was paid $8k for that in the Daytona savings.


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You did very well imo considering you will be first in line for other sought after pieces that sell for more then double retail. Only thing I would have done differently is get a yellow gold DD if u was to flip in the future as it holds its value better or gotten the green dial with the white gold. That too holds a little better from what I have seen.


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Not sure I agree with you there, as much as it might seem satisfying to have a 'gotcha' moment. I think the OP likely feels terrible for opening this whole situation up to criticism and putting the AD in a bit of a pickle. He doesn't need to do anything except enjoy his great watches. He already shared too much info no need to dig any deeper.
Hmm, well it just occurred to me that, since this Jundi3391 now holds that dealers reputation in his hands, a savvy manipulator could use this leverage to acquire any and all future in demand pieces. Perhaps Jundi3391 has drawn the AD into his trap and it was all an elaborate scheme to end up the ruler of all Rolex Crowns.
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In fact you have no knowledge of who Jundi3391 is, what he cares about, what he does for a living, what he can afford, who he has a crush on, what his favourite colour is, whether he liked my poem, whether we will end up best buddies etc..

Whatever he has posted in here holds true.

This wasn't started as a troll post.
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We laughed, we cried and also got a damn good poem.

All in all a very entertaining thread
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